Re: [GENERAL] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-07 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Camm Maguire writes: > As would mine. The major cost associated with any software project is > the migration/learning curve time. Effective guarantees that this > time investment will have a long payoff period (i.e. there will be no > forced upgrades, mandatory incompatibilities, binary/linked

Re: [GENERAL] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Ron Peterson wrote: > By the way, I hope I'm not coming across as saying "thanks for all > your hard work, now go eat peanuts." I have great appreciation for > what PostgreSQL has become, and for the developers who have made it > so. That is why I keep at this tired argument

Re: [GENERAL] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-06 Thread Ron Peterson
Philip Warner wrote: > > At 10:19 6/07/00 -0400, Ron Peterson wrote: > > > >This has happened in PostgreSQL's own history. How long did it take for > >the project to get picked up again? How long did it take for the people > >who picked it up to familiarize themselves with the code? How long d

Re: [GENERAL] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Ron Peterson wrote: > This has happened in PostgreSQL's own history. How long did it take > for the project to get picked up again? How long did it take for the > people who picked it up to familiarize themselves with the code? How > long did it take before the community at

Re: [GENERAL] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-06 Thread Philip Warner
At 10:19 6/07/00 -0400, Ron Peterson wrote: > >This has happened in PostgreSQL's own history. How long did it take for >the project to get picked up again? How long did it take for the people >who picked it up to familiarize themselves with the code? How long did >it take before the community a

Re: [GENERAL] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-06 Thread Ron Peterson
Chris Bitmead wrote: > > > I would submit that most businesses don't know the difference. Perhaps > > they need some education. > > Are you volunteering? Of course. As the systems administrator for my company, I feel it's my responsibility to inform the principals who run this company about s

Re: [GENERAL] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-05 Thread Jan Wieck
Ron Peterson wrote: > your software to make any concessions?". Of course you do. The > question is just what concessions do you require before granting use of > your product. Any statement to the effect that BSD is "really free" is > just navel gazing mumbo jumbo. Good points - alot of. J

Re: [GENERAL] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-05 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* The Hermit Hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000705 12:03] wrote: > > just to curtail this while thread to a certain point ... switching the > license to GPL is *not* on the table, nor has it every been, nor will it > ever be ... Good to hear, I was getting worried for a bit that the code might bec

Re: [GENERAL] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-05 Thread The Hermit Hacker
just to curtail this while thread to a certain point ... switching the license to GPL is *not* on the table, nor has it every been, nor will it ever be ... On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Ron Peterson wrote: > Ned, > > Thanks for inviting the community to participate in this discussion. I > wonder, thou

Re: [GENERAL] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-04 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
One thing to keep in mind: for a very long time, PostgreSQL was the *only* free ("free as in free speech, not free as in free beer") DBMS. I told dozens of people to consider PostgreSQL instead of, say, MySQL, for that very reason. Whichever free software licence you preferred, there was no re

[GENERAL] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-03 Thread Ned Lilly
Greetings all, I'm sending this to -announce, -hackers, and -general; apologies for the cross-post. Replies should automatically go to -general, which is the best forum for this discussion. But I wanted to make sure the largest possible audience of PostgreSQL users had a chance to comment... S