Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-12-12 Thread Peter T Mount
Quoting Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The JDBC support for over-the-wire access to large objects used to > have some bugs, but AFAIK those are cleaned up in current sources > (right Peter?) Yes except for DatabaseMetaData.getTables() but thats not directly to do with large objects. As long a

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-12-12 Thread fabrizio . ermini
> Yes, this was my point. We now have TOAST, but by not going the extra > mile to enable storage of binary files, we really aren't taking full > advantage of our new TOAST feature. > > I can see people saying, "Wow, you can store rows of unlimited length > now. Let me store this jpeg. Oh, I ca

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-12-11 Thread Bruce Momjian
> This is a misunderstanding. You can still use the old-style large > objects (in fact 7.1 has an improved implementation of them too), > and there's always been support for either over-the-wire or > server-filesystem read and write of large objects. In fact the former > is the preferred way; th

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-12-11 Thread Sandeep Joshi
what is the tentative date for 7.1 release? what is the release date for replication? sandeep

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-12-11 Thread Tom Lane
Joe Kislo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ... this lack of BLOB support. I understand that the C > API can read/write -files- off the server's filesystem and load them > into the database. Unfortunately we would absolutely require true > over-the-wire blob support through JDBC. AFAIK, even with t

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-12-11 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Joe Kislo writes: > First, I was evaluating Postgre for a medium scale application I will I'm just wondering what this "Postgre" thing is you keep talking about... ;-) -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://yi.org/peter-e/

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-12-11 Thread Bruce Momjian
> > What I think we _really_ need is a large object interface to TOAST data. > > We already have a nice API, and even psql local large object handling. > > > > If I have a file that I want loaded in/out of a TOAST column, we really > > should make a set of functions to do it, just like we do with

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-12-11 Thread Joe Kislo
> What I think we _really_ need is a large object interface to TOAST data. > We already have a nice API, and even psql local large object handling. > > If I have a file that I want loaded in/out of a TOAST column, we really > should make a set of functions to do it, just like we do with large > o

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-12-03 Thread Jan Wieck
Joe Kislo wrote: >Yes. There are certainly times when a transaction needs to be > ABORTed. However, there are many reasons why the database should not > abort a transaction if it does not need to. There is obviously no > reason why a transaction needs to be aborted for syntax errors. There

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-12-01 Thread Mike Castle
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 12:16:39PM -0800, Mikheev, Vadim wrote: > Oracle & Interbase have savepoints. Hopefully PG will also have them in 7.2 A feature that I liked from using Faircom's Ctree (granted not an SQL based DB or one with built in relations) was auto-save points. So, if something fail

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-12-01 Thread Joel Burton
> > What's nice about PostgreSQL is that, while it hasn't always had > > every SQL92 feature (like outer joins, etc.), it seems to have less > > legacy, nonstandard stuff wired in. :-) > > Oh man, you have n idea. PostgreSQL is legacy headquarters. ;-) Yes, yes, I know about *some* of them

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-12-01 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Joel Burton writes: > What's nice about PostgreSQL is that, while it hasn't always had > every SQL92 feature (like outer joins, etc.), it seems to have less > legacy, nonstandard stuff wired in. :-) Oh man, you have n idea. PostgreSQL is legacy headquarters. ;-) -- Peter Eisentraut

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-11-30 Thread Joel Burton
On 30 Nov 2000, at 11:58, Joe Kislo wrote: > If you don't believe me, here's two fully SQL-92 > compliant databases, Oracle and interbase, which do not exhibit this > behavior: Ummm... havings lots of experience w/it, I can say many things about Oracle, but "fully SQL-92 compliant" sure isn't

RE: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-11-30 Thread Mikheev, Vadim
> > That is what transactions are for. If any errors occur, then the > > transacction is aborted. You are supposed to use > > transactions when you want either everything to occur > > (the whole transaction), or nothing, if an error occurs. > > Yes. There are certainly times when a transa

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-11-29 Thread Tom Lane
>> How _much_ longer? (Sorry if it's a FAQ, in that case, I'd appreciate >> a pointer/URL). > Dunno, but I've been using 7.1devel for ~2 months, and so far, > longer rows seem to work fine. > More information on the TOAST project is at > http://www.postgresql.org/projects/devel-toast.html I t

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-11-29 Thread Joel Burton
On 30 Nov 2000, at 1:24, Igor V. Rafienko wrote: > on Nov 29, 2000, 19:17, Joel Burton std::cout'ed: > > [snip] > > | > 5) BLOB Support. > | > | Keep in mind the pgsql 7.1 (about to go beta tomorrow, if I heard | > right) will support much longer row sizes than 8k. Doesn't remove | > the nee

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-11-29 Thread Igor V. Rafienko
on Nov 29, 2000, 19:17, Joel Burton std::cout'ed: [snip] | > 5) BLOB Support. | | Keep in mind the pgsql 7.1 (about to go beta tomorrow, if I heard | right) will support much longer row sizes than 8k. Doesn't remove | the needs for blobs for many of us, but fixed my problems. How _much_ lon

Re: [GENERAL] Unanswered questions about Postgre

2000-11-29 Thread Joel Burton
[re: question #4, speed/vacuuming] > Do > people need to vaccume their databases hourly? Can you vaccume while > a database is in use? Any discussion on this curious phenomenon would > be appreciated. It still boggles me. I vacuum twice a day, once in the dead of night, once around lunch.