Re: [HACKERS] RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.cxlog.c)

2000-11-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
> * Tatsuo Ishii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001110 18:42] wrote: > > > > > > Yes, though we can change this. We also can implement now > > > feature that Bruce wanted so long and so much -:) - > > > fsync log not on each commit but each ~ 5sec, if > > > losing some recent commits is acceptable. > > >

Re: [HACKERS] Unhappy thoughts about pg_dump and objects inherited from template1

2000-11-10 Thread selkovjr
Mark Hollomon wrote: > Correct. I don't know why anyone would want to change the definition of > (say) int48eq, but if we are going to allow them to do so, we should be > careful to allow them to backup and restore such a change. Yes, and it is also important that if such weirdos exist, they are

Re: [HACKERS] Unhappy thoughts about pg_dump and objects inherited from template1

2000-11-10 Thread Philip Warner
At 01:21 10/11/00 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > >You're right, it's *a* solution, but it'd involve a lot of tedious work. >It's not just adding a column to all the system tables. If I interpret >correctly what Mark and Gene are concerned about, it'd also mean >changing the code so that any update to a

Re: [HACKERS] Unhappy thoughts about pg_dump and objects inherited from template1

2000-11-10 Thread Philip Warner
At 11:39 10/11/00 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > >To bring this back from future nice solutions to the reality of what >to do today, do people like the "template0" solution for now (7.1)? >I can work on it if so. > Being able to create a vanilla DB is essential to make pg_dump work with customized temp

Re: [HACKERS] RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c)

2000-11-10 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Tatsuo Ishii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001110 18:42] wrote: > > > > Yes, though we can change this. We also can implement now > > feature that Bruce wanted so long and so much -:) - > > fsync log not on each commit but each ~ 5sec, if > > losing some recent commits is acceptable. > > Sounds great.

RE: [HACKERS] RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam (xact.c xlog.c)

2000-11-10 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> > Can you tell me how to use CHECKPOINT please? > > You shouldn't normally use it - postmaster will start backend > each 3-5 minutes to do this automatically. Oh, I see. > > > > Is this the same as a SAVEPOINT? > > > > > > No. Checkpoints are to speedup after crash recovery and > > > to remo

Re: [HACKERS] Unhappy thoughts about pg_dump and objects inherited from template1

2000-11-10 Thread Mark Hollomon
On Friday 10 November 2000 11:39, Tom Lane wrote: > Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > When we implement schemas, then all objects belonging to the > > DEFINITION_SCHEMA will not be dumped, all other objects will be. At > > least I imagine that this might be something to work with.

Re: [HACKERS] Problems with Perl

2000-11-10 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > Kevin O'Gorman writes: > > > 2) Because _something_ was made for Perl, the 'make install' > > has to be root. Okay. But this is leaving some stuff behind > > that is owned by root. When I attempt a subsequent > > 'make clean; make' I get into permissions trouble, a

Re: [HACKERS] Horology failure on UW711/cc...

2000-11-10 Thread Tom Lane
Larry Rosenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suspect this is just a NOT updated out file: Yup. Patch applied, thanks! regards, tom lane

[HACKERS] NEW Inet/Cidr

2000-11-10 Thread Larry Rosenman
Just a BIG *THANK YOU* to tom for making the inet/cidr stuff work as one would expect. Larry -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749

Re: [HACKERS] Coping with 'C' vs 'newC' function language names

2000-11-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
So new-style C functions are language "newC"? > Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I don't really have a better idea, but consider if you installed 7.1 into > > /opt/postgres71: then this dump will load the old version of plpgsql.sl. > > True, but absolute paths in a dump file

[HACKERS] Horology failure on UW711/cc...

2000-11-10 Thread Larry Rosenman
I suspect this is just a NOT updated out file: (UnixWare 7.1.1/UDK FS (7.1.1b) cc/Multibyte/current sources). *** ./expected/horology-solaris-1947.outSun Oct 22 17:15:13 2000 --- ./results/horology.out Fri Nov 10 15:39:00 2000 *** *** 109,116 | epoch

Re: [HACKERS] Problems with Perl

2000-11-10 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > More to the point, 'rpath' is currently undefined on HPUX because HPUX > uses 'ld' to link shared libraries, but the shared library link uses > $(rpath), so it would break. Perhaps to start with, is there a way to use > the compiler driver to link sh

Re: AW: AW: [HACKERS] Could turn on -O2 in AIX

2000-11-10 Thread Tom Lane
Zeugswetter Andreas SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> But that is unfortunately not the problem. Looks like yet >> another broken compiler to me :-( > Ok, the comparison ((int) time) > ((int) 0x8001) is the problem. > Reading the comment again and again, I have come to the conclusion, > that

AW: AW: [HACKERS] Could turn on -O2 in AIX

2000-11-10 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
> There is a special case in nabstime.h for AIX, which imho > got swapped. The normal case for me would be INT_MIN > and not the 0x8001. > There is a comment that I don't understand at all given the below > source code: > > /* > * AIX considers 2147483648 == -2147483648 (since they have >

[HACKERS] Postgres article

2000-11-10 Thread Martin A. Marques
Did someone read bout this? http://www.angelfire.com/nv/aldev/pgsql/GreatBridge.html Saludos... :-) -- "And I'm happy, because you make me feel good, about me." - Melvin Udall - Martín Marqués email: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [HACKERS] Coping with 'C' vs 'newC' function language names

2000-11-10 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't really have a better idea, but consider if you installed 7.1 into > /opt/postgres71: then this dump will load the old version of plpgsql.sl. True, but absolute paths in a dump file are a different (and long-standing) issue. > Assuming tha

Re: [HACKERS] Transaction ID wraparound: problem and proposed solution

2000-11-10 Thread Nathan Myers
On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 03:48:13PM +0200, Hannu Krosing wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > > > > Philip Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> * disk space --- letting pg_log grow without bound isn't a pleasant > > >> prospect either. > > > > > Maybe this can be achieved by wrapping XID for the log f

Re: [HACKERS] Problems with Perl

2000-11-10 Thread Lamar Owen
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > It appears that something is messed up with regard to Perl > support on my system. Two things are happening, which may > or may not be related. They are not related. > 1) There is a complaint during make that > * > * Cannot build PL/Perl because libperl is not a sha

[HACKERS] Problems with Perl

2000-11-10 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
It appears that something is messed up with regard to Perl support on my system. Two things are happening, which may or may not be related. 1) There is a complaint during make that * * Cannot build PL/Perl because libperl is not a shared library. * Skipped. * I'm running a pretty vanil

AW: AW: [HACKERS] Could turn on -O2 in AIX

2000-11-10 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
> > The macro AbsoluteTimeIsReal does not work somehow. > > Hm. That expands to > > (((int) time) < ((int) 0x7FFC) && \ >((int) time) > ((int) 0x8001)) There is a special case in nabstime.h for AIX, which imho got swapped. The normal case for me would be INT_MIN and not

Re: [HACKERS] Coping with 'C' vs 'newC' function language names

2000-11-10 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane writes: > Philip pointed out awhile back that it does not work to load a 7.0.* > dump into current sources if the dumped database contains any > procedural language definitions. The dumped handler-function > definitions will look like > > CREATE FUNCTION "plpgsql_call_handler" ( ) RETU

RE: [HACKERS] Results of testing WAL

2000-11-10 Thread Mikheev, Vadim
> > Results: 5000 transactions took ~60 sec in 7.1, ~550 sec in > > 7.0.2 with fsync and ~60 sec without fsync. > > > > So, seems that WAL added not just complexity to system -:) > > Wow, this sounds fantastic :-) > I see my concerns where not justified. Let's see first how justified are my h

[HACKERS] Coping with 'C' vs 'newC' function language names

2000-11-10 Thread Tom Lane
Philip pointed out awhile back that it does not work to load a 7.0.* dump into current sources if the dumped database contains any procedural language definitions. The dumped handler-function definitions will look like CREATE FUNCTION "plpgsql_call_handler" ( ) RETURNS opaque AS '/opt/postgres/l

Re: AW: [HACKERS] Could turn on -O2 in AIX

2000-11-10 Thread Tom Lane
Zeugswetter Andreas SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The macro AbsoluteTimeIsReal does not work somehow. Hm. That expands to (((int) time) < ((int) 0x7FFC) && \ ((int) time) > ((int) 0x8001)) On a machine where int is 32 bits, the second constant *ought* to be treated

Re: [HACKERS] Unhappy thoughts about pg_dump and objects inherited from template1

2000-11-10 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When we implement schemas, then all objects belonging to the > DEFINITION_SCHEMA will not be dumped, all other objects will be. At least > I imagine that this might be something to work with. That's a thought, although it still doesn't cope with the

AW: [HACKERS] Could turn on -O2 in AIX

2000-11-10 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
> > but, there is eighter an optimizer bug or a code bug in nabstime.c > > leading to regression failure in abstime, tinterval and horology. > > The rest all passes. > > Does anybody see similar behavior ? > > IIRC, the same regression tests fail on Linux/Alpha with 7.0.2, even > at -O0. I had a

Re: [HACKERS] Query caching

2000-11-10 Thread devik
Did someone think about query costs ? Is you prepare query like SELECT id FROM t1 WHERE type=$1 and execute it with $1=1 and 2. For 1 there is one record in t1 a all other have type=2. Without caching, first query will use index, second not. Should cached plan use index or not ? devik Christof Pe

Re: [HACKERS] Must a C state transition function use palloc on the returned value?

2000-11-10 Thread Dirk Lutzebaeck
Tom Lane writes: > Dirk Lutzebaeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm defining a new aggregate using a C transition function. It is of > > type TEXT, so the C function gets pointers (*text) to the internal-state1 and > > next-data-item parameters. > > > Question is if the returning value

Re: [HACKERS] Must a C state transition function use palloc on the returned value?

2000-11-10 Thread Tom Lane
Dirk Lutzebaeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm defining a new aggregate using a C transition function. It is of > type TEXT, so the C function gets pointers (*text) to the internal-state1 and > next-data-item parameters. > Question is if the returning value of type *text must be palloc'ed or

Re: AW: [HACKERS] Re: [INTERFACES] USE OF CURSORS IN ECPG

2000-11-10 Thread Christof Petig
Zeugswetter Andreas SB wrote: > > PS: You might consider applying the patch for (update where > not_found) -> 100 > > No, this is not allowed. sqlcode is supposed to be 0 in above case. > You need to explicitly check for the number of rows updated in your > program if needed. > > Andreas Accordi

AW: [HACKERS] Re: [INTERFACES] USE OF CURSORS IN ECPG

2000-11-10 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
> PS: You might consider applying the patch for (update where > not_found) -> 100 No, this is not allowed. sqlcode is supposed to be 0 in above case. You need to explicitly check for the number of rows updated in your program if needed. Andreas

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [INTERFACES] USE OF CURSORS IN ECPG

2000-11-10 Thread Christof Petig
Maurizio wrote: > But, how can I do ? > I have to recall the same routine many times. I tried to prepare and declare > the cursor inside the routine but when I compile with ecpg I receive the > error Cursor already defined. you should drop the cursor (exec sql close name;) But there is trouble a

[HACKERS] Must a C state transition function use palloc on the returned value?

2000-11-10 Thread Dirk Lutzebaeck
Hi, I'm defining a new aggregate using a C transition function. It is of type TEXT, so the C function gets pointers (*text) to the internal-state1 and next-data-item parameters. Question is if the returning value of type *text must be palloc'ed or can be just taken from the input parameters. I

[HACKERS] RE: [INTERFACES] JDBC 'Unterminated quoted string'

2000-11-10 Thread Peter Mount
Yes it does look like it's the insert that's at fault. I've tested it on a current backend here and it has the same problem. Peter -- Peter Mount Enterprise Support Officer, Maidstone Borough Council Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.maidstone.gov.uk All views expressed within this email

AW: [HACKERS] Results of testing WAL

2000-11-10 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
> Results: 5000 transactions took ~60 sec in 7.1, ~550 sec in > 7.0.2 with fsync and ~60 sec without fsync. > > So, seems that WAL added not just complexity to system -:) Wow, this sounds fantastic :-) I see my concerns where not justified. Andreas

AW: [HACKERS] Unhappy thoughts about pg_dump and objects inherited from template1

2000-11-10 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
> I have also mentioned this on two occasions now, and each has met with > total silence. I have come to interpret this to mean either (a) the idea is > too stupid to rate a comment, or (b) go ahead with the proposal. Since I am > not really proposing anything, I assume the correct interpretation