Re: [HACKERS] untrusted Pl/tcl?

2001-02-14 Thread Tom Lane
Tatsuo Ishii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, I heard something like "untrusted PL/tcl". Does anybody know what > the status of that is? AFAIK it's up and working in 7.1, though I haven't tried it myself. See http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/docs/postgres/pltcl.htm

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.1 items

2001-02-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
[ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > > As you can see from the current open items list, there isn't much left > > to do for the 7.1 release. I am going to suggest we remove the LAZY > > VACUUM option at this point. I know Tom Lane posted an item about the > > Well, leaving for va

[HACKERS] Leaving for vacation

2001-02-14 Thread Vadim Mikheev
from Feb 15 till Mar 6... I'll not be able to read mail lists, so in the event of needs please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Regards! Vadim

Re: [HACKERS] RE: [ADMIN] SOS !!: Porstgress forgot all ! Help !

2001-02-14 Thread Vadim Mikheev
> > O, your system reached max transaction ID -:( > > That's two reports now of people who have managed to wrap around the XID > counter. It doesn't seem that hard to do in a heavily used database. > > Does anyone want to take more seriously the stopgap solution I proposed > for this proble

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.1 items

2001-02-14 Thread Vadim Mikheev
> As you can see from the current open items list, there isn't much left > to do for the 7.1 release. I am going to suggest we remove the LAZY > VACUUM option at this point. I know Tom Lane posted an item about the Well, leaving for vacation tomorrow I have to agree -:( LAZY patch will be avail

[HACKERS] untrusted Pl/tcl?

2001-02-14 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
Hi, I heard something like "untrusted PL/tcl". Does anybody know what the status of that is? -- Tatsuo Ishii

Re: [HACKERS] Shouldn't non-MULTIBYTE backend refuse to start in MB database?

2001-02-14 Thread Tom Lane
Tatsuo Ishii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Are these encodings all guaranteed to have the same collation order as >> SQL_ASCII? > Yes & no. Um, I'm confused ... >> If not, we have the same index corruption issues as for LOCALE. > If the backend is configued with LOCALE enabled and the databa

Re: [HACKERS] Shouldn't non-MULTIBYTE backend refuse to start inMB database?

2001-02-14 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> We now have defenses against running a non-LOCALE-enabled backend in a > database that was created in non-C locale. Shouldn't we likewise > prevent a non-MULTIBYTE-enabled backend from running in a database with > a multibyte encoding that's not SQL_ASCII? Or am I missing a reason why > that i

Re: [HACKERS] Shouldn't non-MULTIBYTE backend refuse to start inMB database?

2001-02-14 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Tom Lane writes: > >> We now have defenses against running a non-LOCALE-enabled backend in a > >> database that was created in non-C locale. Shouldn't we likewise > >> prevent a non-MULTIBYTE-enabled backend from running in a database with > >> a

[HACKERS] Re: Open 7.1 items

2001-02-14 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> Far as I know, we were OK on that before. We weren't last time I tested (there was a thread on this a while ago), but... > This is per spec, no? ... it sure is. Looks great! - Thomas

Re: [HACKERS] Shouldn't non-MULTIBYTE backend refuse to start in MB database?

2001-02-14 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tom Lane writes: >> We now have defenses against running a non-LOCALE-enabled backend in a >> database that was created in non-C locale. Shouldn't we likewise >> prevent a non-MULTIBYTE-enabled backend from running in a database with >> a multibyte e

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.1 items

2001-02-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
> > Actually, I have something from Oliver Elphick called pg_controldata: > > Could you send it to me so that I can find out how he gets the > LC_COLLATE > and LC_CTYPE from backend (assuming it tells backend locale not cients) > ? > > > $ pg_controldata > > Log file id:

Re: [HACKERS] Shouldn't non-MULTIBYTE backend refuse to start in MBdatabase?

2001-02-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane writes: > We now have defenses against running a non-LOCALE-enabled backend in a > database that was created in non-C locale. Shouldn't we likewise > prevent a non-MULTIBYTE-enabled backend from running in a database with > a multibyte encoding that's not SQL_ASCII? Or am I missing a r

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.1 items

2001-02-14 Thread Hannu Krosing
Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > > P O S T G R E S Q L > > > > > > 7 . 1 O P E NI T E M S > > > > > > Current at ftp://candle.pha.pa.us/pub/postgresql/open_items. > > > > Any possibility of putting my getlocale into contrib ? > > > > I agree that it should in fact

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.1 items

2001-02-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > P O S T G R E S Q L > > > > 7 . 1 O P E NI T E M S > > > > Current at ftp://candle.pha.pa.us/pub/postgresql/open_items. > > Any possibility of putting my getlocale into contrib ? > > I agree that it should in fact be in the pg_locale.c but that would be a

[HACKERS] Shouldn't non-MULTIBYTE backend refuse to start in MB database?

2001-02-14 Thread Tom Lane
We now have defenses against running a non-LOCALE-enabled backend in a database that was created in non-C locale. Shouldn't we likewise prevent a non-MULTIBYTE-enabled backend from running in a database with a multibyte encoding that's not SQL_ASCII? Or am I missing a reason why that is safe? I

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.1 items

2001-02-14 Thread Hannu Krosing
Bruce Momjian wrote: > P O S T G R E S Q L > > 7 . 1 O P E NI T E M S > > Current at ftp://candle.pha.pa.us/pub/postgresql/open_items. Any possibility of putting my getlocale into contrib ? I agree that it should in fact be in the pg_locale.c but that would be a feature and we don't add

[HACKERS] Re: Open 7.1 items

2001-02-14 Thread Tom Lane
Thomas Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> ...join visibility issue... > I'm not sure if the "table shape for natural joins issue" has been > formalized, but afaik it isn't covered in the scoping patch. Tom? Far as I know, we were OK on that before. test=# create table a(f1 int, f2 int); CRE

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.1 items

2001-02-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian writes: > > Bruce Momjian writes: > > > > > New PL/pgSQL GET DIAGNOSTICS statement for SPI value access (Jan) > > > > If someone can show me an example of how it operates I can write up > > something. > > I found: > > > Quoting a recent message by Jan Wieck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >

[HACKERS] Re: Open 7.1 items

2001-02-14 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> ...join visibility issue... I'm not sure if the "table shape for natural joins issue" has been formalized, but afaik it isn't covered in the scoping patch. Tom? - Thomas

Re: [HACKERS] possible to create CVS branch for proposed patch?

2001-02-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 07:43:25PM +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > Seems like something that should be done in a separate wrapper program. > > Littering the backend with vast sections of platform-specific code that > > provides optional functional is probably not going to fly, if I can assess

Re: [HACKERS] possible to create CVS branch for proposed patch?

2001-02-14 Thread Fred Yankowski
On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 07:43:25PM +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Seems like something that should be done in a separate wrapper program. > Littering the backend with vast sections of platform-specific code that > provides optional functional is probably not going to fly, if I can assess > this

Re: [HACKERS] possible to create CVS branch for proposed patch?

2001-02-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Fred Yankowski writes: > Jason Tishler and I are planning to create a patch to allow PostgreSQL > to run directly as an NT service. I've submitted a similar patch > which may well be incorporated into the next release of Cygipc, and > we've got a plan for doing the same for PostgreSQL: see > ht

Re: [HACKERS] possible to create CVS branch for proposed patch?

2001-02-14 Thread Tom Lane
Fred Yankowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Getting to my question: Is it possible to create a CVS branch of the > HEAD (tip) of the PostgreSQL CVS for us to use in this work? It seems unlikely that this work is large enough to justify a branch. Why don't you just work together and submit a pat

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.1 items

2001-02-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Bruce Momjian writes: > > > New PL/pgSQL GET DIAGNOSTICS statement for SPI value access (Jan) > > If someone can show me an example of how it operates I can write up > something. I found: > Quoting a recent message by Jan Wieck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > :Do a > : > :GET DIAGNOSTICS

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Recovery of PGSQL after system crash failing!!!

2001-02-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Tom Lane writes: > > > Thomas Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Also, could the "-F" option be disabled now that WAL is enabled? Or is > > > there still some reason to encourage/allow folks to use it? > > > > I was the one who put it back in after Vadim turned it off ;-) ... and > > I'

[HACKERS] possible to create CVS branch for proposed patch?

2001-02-14 Thread Fred Yankowski
Jason Tishler and I are planning to create a patch to allow PostgreSQL to run directly as an NT service. I've submitted a similar patch which may well be incorporated into the next release of Cygipc, and we've got a plan for doing the same for PostgreSQL: see http://ontosys.com/phiki/PostgresqlN

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Recovery of PGSQL after system crash failing!!!

2001-02-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane writes: > Thomas Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Also, could the "-F" option be disabled now that WAL is enabled? Or is > > there still some reason to encourage/allow folks to use it? > > I was the one who put it back in after Vadim turned it off ;-) ... and > I'll object to any

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.1 items

2001-02-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian writes: > New PL/pgSQL GET DIAGNOSTICS statement for SPI value access (Jan) If someone can show me an example of how it operates I can write up something. > Improve PL/PgSQL documentation (?) I agree with the "(?)"... Certainly a bit late to start an "improvement" project. > St

[HACKERS] Open 7.1 items

2001-02-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
As you can see from the current open items list, there isn't much left to do for the 7.1 release. I am going to suggest we remove the LAZY VACUUM option at this point. I know Tom Lane posted an item about the join visibility issue, so hopefully this can be resolved soon. Not sure what to do abo

[HACKERS] RE: [ODBC] ODBC <6.4 protocol

2001-02-14 Thread Dave Page
> -Original Message- > From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 14 February 2001 06:20 > To: PostgreSQL-development > Cc: PostgreSQL odbc list > Subject: [ODBC] ODBC <6.4 protocol > > > I have backed out the changes to ODBC that removed compatibility with > <6.4 servers,

Re: [HACKERS] locale support

2001-02-14 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> Tatsuo, what is LC_ALL (or the other locale envvars) set to when you run > the program? The man page for setlocale() on my machine documents that > the main() starts in C or POSIX locale mode by default. The call to > setlocale(LC_ALL, "") reads the envvars and sets the locale > accordingly.

[HACKERS] Re: Recovery of PGSQL after system crash failing!!!

2001-02-14 Thread Vadim Mikheev
> > It removes the need to disable fsync to get best performance! > > -F performance is still better, only the difference is not so big as before. Well, when "checkpoint seek in logs" will be implemented difference will be the same - lost consistency. > > Since there is a fundamental recovery

[HACKERS] AW: Recovery of PGSQL after system crash failing!!!

2001-02-14 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
> It removes the need to disable fsync to get best performance! -F performance is still better, only the difference is not so big as before. > Since there is a fundamental recovery problem if the WAL file > disappears, then perhaps we should have a workaround which can ignore > the requirement

[HACKERS] Re: [ODBC] ODBC <6.4 protocol

2001-02-14 Thread Hiroshi Inoue
Dave Page wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > I have backed out the changes to ODBC that removed compatibility with > > <6.4 servers, so the 7.1 ODBC code still supports the older servers. > > I have changed the dialog box from "6.