On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Mark Pritchard wrote:
The longer that Oracle, MS, et al don't believe we're a threat, the
better. But I wonder how they *really* see us. This article was
too obviously a pile of marketing BS to be taken seriously by
anyone.
Not necessarily - business guys are
Transaction id is incremented even in sql queries like
select which does not change the state of database, is it not
unnecesary?.
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I have added new function called convert similar to SQL99's convert.
Convert converts encoding according to parameters. For example, if you
have a table named unicode in an Unicode database,
SELECT convert(text_field, 'LATIN1') FROM unicode;
will return text in ISO-8859-1 representation. This
Gavin Sherry wrote:
Seems like a fairly large amount of talk about stuff which should be
taken
care of internally by corporations who have such interests.
Not entirely. As a freelancer, I've used OLAP (front-end only, ie pivot
tables in Excel) to help me produce invoices from my timesheet
I have added new function called convert similar to SQL99's convert.
Convert converts encoding according to parameters. For example, if you
have a table named unicode in an Unicode database,
Forgot to mention that anyone who wants to try the new function should
do initdb. I did not increment
OK, 7.1.3 is packaged and ready to go, date stamped Auguest 15. Can
people with cvs 7.1 branches review it?
Compling/regression tests seems fine on my box (Linux kernel
2.2/egcs-2.91/glic 2.1.3). Documents are also compiled fine.
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Hi,
we finished first stage of our proposal for changing of index AM tables
(see for reference http://fts.postgresql.org/db/mw/msg.html?mid=1029290)
I attached 3 files:
1. patch_72_systbl.gz - patch to current CVS
2. btree_gist.tar.gz - contrib/btree_gist module -
Is there any intention to implement ub-trees?
For more information visit the page of the
Mistral project. There is information of how to
integrate ub-trees in a db-kernel or extend the
b-tree implementation. ub-trees enhances very
much multi conditioned selects. The link is
By the way,
Are we going to do the official testing-on-all-supported-platforms
before making this (hopefully final 7.1.x) release? It'd be embarrasing
if it failed on something it's supposed to work on...
If so, do we make use of Vince's Regression Test form?
Tatsuo Ishii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have added new function called convert similar to SQL99's convert.
Convert converts encoding according to parameters. For example, if you
have a table named unicode in an Unicode database,
SELECT convert(text_field, 'LATIN1') FROM unicode;
will
I was just looking at adding SERIAL4 and SERIAL8 pseudo-types to the
system, per our previous discussion, and I started to wonder why SERIAL
is treated as a keyword by the grammar. Wouldn't it be better to remove
that keyword and allow the grammar to parse serial as a type name?
Then analyze.c
Tatsuo Ishii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have added new function called convert similar to SQL99's convert.
Convert converts encoding according to parameters. For example, if you
have a table named unicode in an Unicode database,
SELECT convert(text_field, 'LATIN1') FROM unicode;
On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 11:28:35PM +0900, Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not totally against your
suggestions (for example, I'm not against the idea that changing all
current encoding names to more standard ones for 7.2 if it's your
concern). However, I think we
Hi,
before some time I was discuss with Tatsuo and Thomas about support
for synonyms of encoding names (for example allows to use
ISO-8859-1 as the encoding name) and use binary search for searching
in encoding names.
I mean that we can during this change a little clean up encoding
stuff
Probably it would be possible to implement ub-tree
using GiST interface.
Oleg
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Wald, Matthias wrote:
Is there any intention to implement ub-trees?
For more information visit the page of the
Mistral project. There is information of how to
integrate ub-trees in a
None of my Solaris boxes have direct internet access, but if someone is
willing to make a snapshot tar.gz/tar.bz2 file, I can download and test
on Solaris 8 SPARC/INTEL.
:)
Regards and best wishes,
Justin Clift
Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
OK, 7.1.3 is packaged and ready to go, date stamped
Is it possible to include patch for libpgtcl tcl 8.0
in this release?
Regards,
Mikhail Terekhov
Bruce Momjian wrote:
I have to fix my old fault in TID handling.
I am able to have a cvs access now and would
commit the fix to 7.1 branch.
Hiroshi, are you done with changes you
Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not totally against your
suggestions (for example, I'm not against the idea that changing all
current encoding names to more standard ones for 7.2 if it's your
concern). However, I think we should focus on more fundamental issues
than those trivial ones.
Karel Zak writes:
before some time I was discuss with Tatsuo and Thomas about support
for synonyms of encoding names (for example allows to use
ISO-8859-1 as the encoding name) and use binary search for searching
in encoding names.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing last night...
A
Tatsuo Ishii writes:
However, I think we should focus on more fundamental issues
than those trivial ones. Recently Thomas gave an idea how to deal with
the internationalization (I18N) of PostgreSQL: create character set
etc.
I haven't actually seen any real implementation proposal yet. We
Is it possible to include patch for libpgtcl tcl 8.0
in this release?
Much too risky. We don't know about compatibility with earlier tcl
versions.
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By the way,
Are we going to do the official testing-on-all-supported-platforms
before making this (hopefully final 7.1.x) release? It'd be embarrasing
if it failed on something it's supposed to work on...
If so, do we make use of Vince's Regression Test form?
Paul Ramsey writes:
- One of the things we have run up against is that for most linux
distributions, the postgresql-devel package does not include postgres.h
in the header package. This is not necessary for client-side programs,
but it is for server-side extensions. So people cannot compile
On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 05:16:42PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Karel Zak writes:
before some time I was discuss with Tatsuo and Thomas about support
for synonyms of encoding names (for example allows to use
ISO-8859-1 as the encoding name) and use binary search for searching
in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Allen) writes:
: [...] Near the end he gets specifically asked about Red Hat
: Database as a competitive threat, and he responds that he doesn't
: think anyone can match their investment of 800 professionals to
: work on SQL Server. [...]
It would be naive to dismiss
Tom Lane wrote:
When someone sends me a Windoze implementation of the proposed
SOCK_STRERROR() macro, I'll see about fixing it. Till then
I can't do much.
regards, tom lane
Could you please review the following patch for libpq.
I've implemented the SOCK_ERRNO
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
The 7.1 RPMs should contain the server side headers somewhere. Earlier
versions only included a not very well defined subset of them.
Indeed they do (nice!), which brings me to a different question:
1 - I download the tarball
2 - ./configure ; make ; make install
Brook Milligan writes:
Doesn't this discussion indicate that the time is fast approaching, if
not already past, for some type of system for handling installation of
3rd party software?
Yes.
- Definition and implementation of the interface to be provided for
extensions. Presumably, this
I'm not sure if it's according to or violating the standard.
But most other databases allow a '$' inside of identifiers.
Well, most of them recommend not to use it, but hey guy's,
what's a recommendation for a programmer?
In order to lower porting issues, I think
So... will current 7.1.1 databases upgrade without problems to 7.1.3?
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Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Jan Wieck writes:
Could you live with it when we don't allow a name to start
with a dollar, but allow the dollar inside or at the end of
the name?
At the end would also be a problem because of parsing conflicts with
operators. (E.g.,
I would take a hard look at R's extension packaging system
(www.r-project.org). Its the best in the business. It consolidates all
aspects of creating packages, including configuring, building, run-time
linking, documentation and testing. It also allows non-root users to
install packages in
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Are we going to do the official testing-on-all-supported-platforms
Not usually. We didn't change that much.
More to the point, I don't believe there were any changes that had any
significance for portability...
regards, tom
Paul Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
However, if I have an RPM-based installation, I *will* have
the server headers I need. Why do we discriminate against people who
compile from the tarball?
We don't. We do, however, assume that they read the installation
instructions:
The standard
Jan Wieck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Could you live with it when we don't allow a name to start
with a dollar, but allow the dollar inside or at the end of
the name?
We had *better* not allow an identifier to start with $ --- or have
you forgotten about parameters?
I tend to
Tom Lane wrote:
Jan Wieck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Could you live with it when we don't allow a name to start
with a dollar, but allow the dollar inside or at the end of
the name?
We had *better* not allow an identifier to start with $ --- or have
you forgotten about
Bruce Momjian wrote:
I'm not sure if it's according to or violating the standard.
But most other databases allow a '$' inside of identifiers.
Well, most of them recommend not to use it, but hey guy's,
what's a recommendation for a programmer?
In order to
In order to lower porting issues, I think it'd be nice to add
that to PostgreSQL as well. It's two more characters in
scan.l and doesn't break the regression test.
Objections?
Yes. We would move from standard C identifiers to $ identifiers. We
have had
hellow all
how can I store Binary values in a table of postgresql database?
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Bruce Momjian wrote:
We do currently use $1 for params, so allowing dollar in the middle
seems better. However, I need to see multiple people who need it before
I would say OK. If we go adding things because _one_ person wants it,
we will end up with a mess. Someone is working on an
Jan Wieck writes:
Could you live with it when we don't allow a name to start
with a dollar, but allow the dollar inside or at the end of
the name?
At the end would also be a problem because of parsing conflicts with
operators. (E.g., foo$$bar) I don't really like this
Jan Wieck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bruce Momjian wrote:
We do currently use $1 for params, so allowing dollar in the middle
seems better. However, I need to see multiple people who need it before
I would say OK. If we go adding things because _one_ person wants it,
we will end up
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Jan Wieck writes:
Could you live with it when we don't allow a name to start
with a dollar, but allow the dollar inside or at the end of
the name?
At the end would also be a problem because of parsing conflicts with
operators. (E.g., foo$$bar)
Tom Lane wrote:
"Hiroshi Inoue" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's possible for a function to use a unique snapshot
if there are only SELECT statements in the function
but it's impossible if there are UPDATE/DELETE or
SELECT .. FOR UPDATE statements etc.
You are confusing snapshots
Finally, as I've mentioned before I'd like to try out the iconv interface.
Might become an option in 7.2 even.
I'm curious how do you handle conversion between multibyte strings
and wide characters using iconv. This is necessary to implement
multibyte aware like, regex, char_length etc.
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