[HACKERS] 7.3beta and ecpg

2002-09-08 Thread Michael Meskes
Hi, I didn't download the beta but compared the CVS checkouts and it appears the ecpg directory is still the one from 7.2 not the one tagged big_bison. Will this one be moved into the mainstream source? Else we would be stuck with a non-compatible parser. If I shall move it, please tell me, I'm

Re: [HACKERS] About connectby()

2002-09-08 Thread Masaru Sugawara
On Sat, 07 Sep 2002 10:26:36 -0700 Joe Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK -- patch submitted to fix this. Once the patch is applied, this case gives: test=# SELECT * FROM connectby('connectby_tree', 'keyid', 'parent_keyid', '2', 0, '~') AS t(keyid int, parent_keyid int, level int,

[HACKERS] Importing data from 7.2.2 into 7.3b1 !?

2002-09-08 Thread Hervé Piedvache
Hi, Sorry to insist, may be my previus subject was miss understood ... refering to this message : http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2002-09/msg00461.php But I can't import my data from 7.2.2 into 7.3b1 ... 1- Many errors during importation of the data 2- Seems to use all the memory

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple count

2002-09-08 Thread Steve Howe
Hello Bruce, Monday, September 9, 2002, 12:16:32 AM, you wrote: BM Joe Conway wrote: BM Any suggestion on how to show the tag mutated? Do we want to add more BM tag possibilities? Again, I don't agree with PQcmdStatus() returning a pseudo-keyword, since I would expect a SQL command executed.

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple count from complex commands [return] issue

2002-09-08 Thread Steve Howe
Hello Bruce, Monday, September 9, 2002, 12:21:11 AM, you wrote: BM Steve Howe wrote: Hello Bruce, But this *is* the total number of rows affected. There is no current (defined) behavior of rows affected by the same kind of command issued, although I agree it makes some sense. BM Yes,

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple

2002-09-08 Thread Joe Conway
Bruce Momjian wrote: Joe Conway wrote: This is basically Tom's proposal, but substituting MUTATED for the original command tag name acknowledges that the original command was not executed unchanged. It also serves as a warning that the affected tuple count is from one or more substitute

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple

2002-09-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
Steve Howe wrote: We still have to hear the other developers about this, but for a while, my votes go to Proposal's #2 (by Tom) and Proposal #3 if enough people consider it important. I think Tom and Hirosh were the people most involved in the previous discussion. -- Bruce Momjian

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple count

2002-09-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joe Conway wrote: Sure, but that's why I am in favor of changing the tag. If you did: DELETE FROM fooview WHERE name LIKE 'Joe%'; and got: MUTATED 507324 3 it would mean that 3 tuples in total were affected by all of the substitute operations, only of of them being an INSERT, and

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple count

2002-09-08 Thread Steve Howe
Hello Bruce, Monday, September 9, 2002, 12:22:26 AM, you wrote: BM Steve Howe wrote: JC return OID if sum of all replacement INSERTs in the rule inserted JConly one row, else zero I don't agree with this one since it would lead us to a meaningless information... what would be

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple

2002-09-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
Steve Howe wrote: Hello Bruce, Monday, September 9, 2002, 12:22:26 AM, you wrote: BM Steve Howe wrote: JC return OID if sum of all replacement INSERTs in the rule inserted JConly one row, else zero I don't agree with this one since it would lead us to a meaningless

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple count

2002-09-08 Thread Steve Howe
Hello Bruce, Monday, September 9, 2002, 12:36:38 AM, you wrote: BM Joe Conway wrote: Sure, but that's why I am in favor of changing the tag. If you did: DELETE FROM fooview WHERE name LIKE 'Joe%'; and got: MUTATED 507324 3 it would mean that 3 tuples in total were affected by all

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple

2002-09-08 Thread Joe Conway
Bruce Momjian wrote: OK. Do any people have INSTEAD rules where there are not commands matching the original query tag? Can anyone think of such a case being created? The only one I can think of is UPDATE implemented as separate INSERT and DELETE commands. I could see an UPDATE

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple count

2002-09-08 Thread Steve Howe
Hello Bruce, Monday, September 9, 2002, 12:39:20 AM, you wrote: BM I don't understand this objection. I misunderstood Joe's statement into thinking we wanted to sum the OIDs for all INSERT commands applied :) Please ignore this. But now that I read it again, I would prefer having at least

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple count

2002-09-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
Steve Howe wrote: BM We would return 0 for oid and an insert count, just like INSERT INTO ... BM SELECT. How is that weird? It's not weird, or as weird as the other proposal which is retrieving the last inserted OID number. If we can return some information for the client, why not doing it

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple

2002-09-08 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, Steve Howe wrote: Here are the proposals for solutioning the Return proper effected tuple count from complex commands [return] issue as seen on TODO. Any comments ?... This is obviously open to voting and discussion. As it seems we're voting, I think Tom's scheme is

[HACKERS] Script to compute random page cost

2002-09-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
Because we have seen many complains about sequential vs index scans, I wrote a script which computes the value for your OS/hardware combination. Under BSD/OS on one SCSI disk, I get a random_page_cost around 60. Our current postgresql.conf default is 4. What do other people get for this value?

Re: [HACKERS] Schemas not available for pl/pgsql %TYPE....

2002-09-08 Thread Joe Conway
Tom Lane wrote: Sean Chittenden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ::sigh:: Is it me or does it look like all of pl/pgsql is schema un-aware (ie, all of the declarations). -sc Yeah. The group of routines parse_word, parse_dblword, etc that are called by the lexer certainly all need work. There

Re: [HACKERS] Script to compute random page cost

2002-09-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
OK, turns out that the loop for sequential scan ran fewer times and was skewing the numbers. I have a new version at: ftp://candle.pha.pa.us/pub/postgresql/randcost I get _much_ lower numbers now for random_page_cost.

Re: [HACKERS] --with-maxbackends

2002-09-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
Matthew T. O'Connor wrote: On Saturday 07 September 2002 12:52 pm, Bruce Momjian wrote: Peter Eisentraut wrote: Didn't we want to remove that option? I didn't know it was still in there. I see no reason for it. How about --enable-depend, that's not still needed is it? Or is that

[HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple count from complex commands [return] issue

2002-09-08 Thread Steve Howe
Hello all, Here are the proposals for solutioning the Return proper effected tuple count from complex commands [return] issue as seen on TODO. Any comments ?... This is obviously open to voting and discussion. -- Best regards, Steve Howe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple count

2002-09-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
I liked option #2. I don't think the _last_ query in a rule should have any special handling. So, to summarize #2, we have: if no INSTEAD, return value of original command if INSTEAD, return tag of original command return sum of all affected rows

[HACKERS] Australian Open Source Awards

2002-09-08 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
Hi Guys, You might be interested in the results of the Australian Open Source Awards: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/09/06/1031115931961.html Justin Clift and I both rated mentions - Justin for the Postgres websites and myself for BSD Users Group WA. One good things is that both Postgres

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple

2002-09-08 Thread Joe Conway
Bruce Momjian wrote: I liked option #2. I don't think the _last_ query in a rule should have any special handling. So, to summarize #2, we have: if no INSTEAD, return value of original command if INSTEAD, return tag of original command return sum of

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Australian Open Source Awards

2002-09-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
God, I wish ppl would at least get information correct :( Justin Clift (for the postgreSQL documentation website) the website they point to *isn't* techdocs, but www, which Justin has had nothing to do with ;( On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Hi Guys, You might be

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Australian Open Source Awards

2002-09-08 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
Well annoyingly enough they have me down as 'founding pandaemonium' whereas it should be co-founded pandaemonium :( Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier Sent: Monday, 9 September 2002 11:01 AM To: Christopher

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple count from complex commands [return] issue

2002-09-08 Thread Steve Howe
Hello Bruce, Sunday, September 8, 2002, 10:52:45 PM, you wrote: BM I liked option #2. I don't think the _last_ query in a rule should have BM any special handling. BM So, to summarize #2, we have: BM if no INSTEAD, BM return value of original command The problem is, this

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple count

2002-09-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joe Conway wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: I liked option #2. I don't think the _last_ query in a rule should have any special handling. So, to summarize #2, we have: if no INSTEAD, return value of original command if INSTEAD, return tag of original command

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple count

2002-09-08 Thread Steve Howe
Hello Joe, Sunday, September 8, 2002, 11:54:45 PM, you wrote: JC Bruce Momjian wrote: I liked option #2. I don't think the _last_ query in a rule should have any special handling. So, to summarize #2, we have: if no INSTEAD, return value of original command if

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Solving the Return proper effected tuple

2002-09-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
Steve Howe wrote: Hello Bruce, Sunday, September 8, 2002, 10:52:45 PM, you wrote: BM I liked option #2. I don't think the _last_ query in a rule should have BM any special handling. BM So, to summarize #2, we have: BM if no INSTEAD, BM return value of original