On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 10:35 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
I'm not as concerned about confusion as the fact that *all* of the
various Python drivers suck in different, and crippling, ways. I don't
care how many drivers we have, as long as we have at least one 1st-class
driver.
Absolutely.
And I
Tom Lane wrote:
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
Barring objections I'm going to press ahead with completing and
committing this; then in a separate patch remove VACUUM FULL INPLACE.
Was it our determination that we could remove VFI if we eliminated the
system catalogs? I'm fine with
[resend, because of apparent failure to hit the list]
Bruce Momjian wrote:
I am dismayed that we are using a 16MB file for monitoring archive
activity. Can't you use pg_current_xlog_location() and only check
for an archive file when that location changes?
Hmmm Let me think about
On Saturday 06 February 2010 06:03:30 Greg Smith wrote:
Andres Freund wrote:
On 02/03/10 14:42, Robert Haas wrote:
Well, maybe we should start with a discussion of what kernel calls
you're aware of on different platforms and then we could try to put an
API around it.
In linux there
Kevin Grittner wrote:
[resend, because of apparent failure to hit the list]
Bruce Momjian wrote:
I am dismayed that we are using a 16MB file for monitoring archive
activity. Can't you use pg_current_xlog_location() and only check
for an archive file when that location changes?
Fujii Masao wrote:
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Heikki Linnakangas
heikki.linnakan...@enterprisedb.com wrote:
Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
Here's is modified patch that adds a new backupStartPoint field to
pg_control for that + some other minor editorialization.
I've committed this
On Saturday 06 February 2010 02:25:33 Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
Hi,
While testing Hot Standby, I have encountered strange behavior with
DROP DATABASE command.
1) connect to test database at standby via psql
2) issue DROP DATABASE test command to primary
3) session #1 works fine
4) close
On Saturday 06 February 2010 17:32:43 Andres Freund wrote:
On Saturday 06 February 2010 02:25:33 Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
Hi,
While testing Hot Standby, I have encountered strange behavior with
DROP DATABASE command.
1) connect to test database at standby via psql
2) issue DROP
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
In 8.3, running \c from a file prints something like
You are now connected to database postgres.
In 8.4 it prints
psql (8.4.1)
You are now connected to database postgres.
Is it intentional/sensible to repeat the startup banner every time the
connection
I wrote:
Still fooling with VACUUM FULL on catalogs ... I find that a sanity
check I put in is barfing on VACUUM FULL pg_class, because the
transient table is built with a toast table, whereas pg_class hasn't got
one. It seems like it probably ought to have one, because either relacl
or
The thing is, why it doesn't crash on 8.3.8 but crash on 8.4.2? Any idea? A
patch was applied to 8.3 but not to 8.4.2?
Thanks,
M Z
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Alvaro Herrera
alvhe...@commandprompt.com wrote:
Robert
Robert Haas wrote:
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net writes:
On l?r, 2010-01-02 at 17:34 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
As for the overhead, these queries are not zero-maintenance. ?I still
think that the usefulness of tab
M Z jm80...@gmail.com writes:
The thing is, why it doesn't crash on 8.3.8 but crash on 8.4.2? Any idea?
Pure luck. Memory-clobber bugs like these are notoriously
nondeterministic. Any minor, logically unrelated change could make them
visible or not visible, because the clobber happens to
Guy Rouillier wrote:
On 1/6/2010 3:29 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Guy Rouillierguyr-...@burntmail.com writes:
Oracle states clearly in the SQL Reference manual:
A modifier can appear in a format model more than once. In such a case,
each subsequent occurrence toggles the effects of the
Marko Kreen wrote:
The pg8000 / bpgsql seem to be toy projects, and anyway you dont
want to use pure-Python drivers in high-performance environments.
We are not talking about C#/java here.
Right, and the comments from James reinforce this general idea: there
is little value to the people
Greg Smith wrote:
To summarize what I saw on this thread, the primary wishlist of changes
to it are:
-License change
-Consider refactoring to better follow standard driver practices, such
as using PQExecParams
-Improvement in transaction control to resolve issues that cause idle
On 2/7/10, Greg Smith g...@2ndquadrant.com wrote:
Marko Kreen wrote:
Psycopg was the leader, especially in web-environments,
but it has non-obvious license and with dead website it does not
seem that attractive. Although it is well-maintained still.
Best path forward would be to talk
Finally, I just don't see the existing (often PG specific) goals that I have
in mind for it appealing to the majority of [web framework/abstraction] users.
What are those goals?
--Josh Berkus
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To make changes to your
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Marko Kreen mark...@gmail.com wrote:
This is long-term todo item for psycopg, seems offtopic
to the driver situation.
[...]
This is routine bug in either app or psycopg, we have no reason
to touch it. The guy should report to appropriate lists.
[...]
Long-term
I saw this on reddit and thought I might drop a line.
I went through this same issue, trying to find a postgresql driver. Mostly, I
had no intention of using psycopg because of its copyleft licensing. (Of
course, I don't need to go into why.)
Anyways, here's some info that might help on
Kevin,
Of course all of this is from the perspective of Python users. Of
course, you have your own features that you want from your end (from
PostgreSQL's perspective). Perhaps this info would help you to know
which avenue to pursue.
That's invaluable. Thanks for chiming in!
--Josh
On Feb 6, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
Finally, I just don't see the existing (often PG specific) goals that I have
in mind for it appealing to the majority of [web framework/abstraction]
users.
What are those goals?
I think the most interesting one that has yet to be implemented
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Boszormenyi Zoltan z...@cybertec.at wrote:
Thanks for testing it, with the attached patch your test case also
returns SELECT N.
Thoughts:
1. Looks like you've falsified the last comment block in PortalRunMulti().
2. I don't like the duplication of code in
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de wrote:
On Saturday 06 February 2010 06:03:30 Greg Smith wrote:
Andres Freund wrote:
On 02/03/10 14:42, Robert Haas wrote:
Well, maybe we should start with a discussion of what kernel calls
you're aware of on different
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Joachim Wieland j...@mcknight.de wrote:
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Jeff Davis pg...@j-davis.com wrote:
Thanks, very well spotted... Actually the same is true for LISTEN... I
have reworked the patch to do the changes to listenChannels only in
the post-commit
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
OK, we have a proposal on the table to bump some patches from this
CommitFest to free up more committer resources, particularly Tom, to
work on Hot Standby and Streaming Replication
Robert,
I think it might be time to revisit this issue. SR is in, and we have
a week left in the CF, and we have all of the above patches plus 5
small ones left to deal with. rbtree is close to being committable, I
think; knngist has not been reviewed yet; you (Tom) have claimed the
frame
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 09:19 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
My son has brought to my attention that our current crop of Python
client libraries is inadequate/confusing. I took a look myself, and
asked on our IRC channel, and am now convinced this area needs
attention.
I have written up a set of
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 00:18 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
Jeff, do you think this patch is ready for committer? If so, please
mark it as such on commitfest.postgresql.org - otherwise, please
clarify what you think the action items are.
I'll post an update tomorrow.
Regards,
Jeff Davis
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
... The affected patches are:
- Listen/Notify Rewrite.
- Writeable CTEs.
- more frame options for window functions
- knngist
- rbtree
I think it might be time to revisit this issue. SR is in, and we have
a week left in the CF, and we have all of
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