Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] What can we learn from MySQL?

2004-05-03 Thread Andrew Payne
Bruce wrote: Does anyone know of an open source project that *has* successfully displaced a market of mature, established products WITHOUT a commercial entity providing marketing, support direction? Linux. It doesn't have a single company behind it, but several. Uh, no. Linux HAD a

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] What can we learn from MySQL?

2004-05-03 Thread Andrew Payne
Bruce wrote: Now, if you are asking about marketing, yea, we don't have much in that area right now, and we need it. I think your point was that we need a single controlling company to provide marketing because if there are many, there is little incentive to market PostgreSQL because all

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] What can we learn from MySQL?

2004-05-01 Thread Andrew Payne
Joshua wrote: Why would someone fund a new PostgreSQL project when there are several viable commercial entities doing the job right now? Four words: size of marketing budget. As a technology guy, it bugs me to acknowledge that. But having lived through this a few times, it is the way it

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] What can we learn from MySQL?

2004-04-30 Thread Andrew Payne
Bruce wrote: Remember, we all came to PostgreSQL because of the community development, so we can't expect us to get excited about something that risks that just to win, as you say. If we had gone in this direction with Great Bridge, we would have seriously injured PostgreSQL and it might