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On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:40:05AM +0900, Itagaki Takahiro wrote:
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 08:33, David Fetter
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In order to get WITH ORDINALITY, would it be better to change
gram.y to account for both WITH ORDINALITY
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and without, or just for the WITH
ORDINALITY case?
Also, there's been some enthusiasm for a different kind of enhancement
of UNNEST, which would go something like this:
UNNEST(anyarray, number_of_dimensions_to_unnest)
That'd probably be a separate patch, though.
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On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:40:05AM +0900, Itagaki Takahiro wrote:
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 08:33, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
In order to get WITH ORDINALITY, would it be better to change
gram.y to account for both WITH ORDINALITY and without, or just
for the WITH ORDINALITY case
it would've been much better to do it years ago. That
doesn't mean we shouldn't at least *consider* doing it at some
point.
The sooner, the better, IMHO.
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VOLATILE for UNSYNCED? Not sure about UNLOGGED.
+1 for describing the end-user-visible behavior.
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THAT EXPLAIN THE DETAILS GO HERE;
How about something like:
OPTIONS (SYNC=no, LOG=no, ... )
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--omit-unlogged-data.
Are you sure we don't want to default the other way?
+1 for defaulting the other way.
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On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 02:07:35PM -0800, David Fetter wrote:
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 02:00:33PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
Yeah, you'd have to allow a flag to control the behavior. And in
that case I'd rather the flag have a single default rather than
different defaults depending
of optimizing at all. Could we
maybe see about optimizing the 99% case, which those two bits cover?
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once. So:
WITH t AS (INSERT INTO foo VALUES (0) RETURNING *)
SELECT 1 FROM t t1, t t2;
would only insert one row in any case.
Right :)
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));
runs the cte two times, hence two new rows in foo.
I think we can worry about that if we ever have run-time functions
done as WITH, but I think they'd be a *much* better fit for DO.
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On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 02:28:35PM +0100, Yeb Havinga wrote:
On 2010-11-12 16:51, David Fetter wrote:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:25:51AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
Yeah, that's another interesting question: should we somehow force
unreferenced CTEs to be evaluated anyhow?
Yes.
After a night's
FROM foo RETURNING *) SELECT 1 WHERE false;
WITH t AS (DELETE FROM foo RETURNING *) SELECT 1 FROM t LIMIT 0;
No.
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On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 03:23:42PM +0100, Yeb Havinga wrote:
On 2010-11-13 14:41, David Fetter wrote:
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 02:28:35PM +0100, Yeb Havinga wrote:
1) the name Common Table Expression suggests that t must be
regarded as an expression, hence syntactically / proof theoretic
that as an implementation detail,
not as part of the specification.
Right :)
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to be really confusing, I fear.
Yes, and as we add more things--COPY is the first but probably not the
last--to CTEs, this no action-at-a-distance behavior will become
even more important.
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, and I've started a separate thread on this along with a page on
the wiki.
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To that end, I've put up a page on the wiki that includes a list of
issues to be addressed. It's intended to be changed, possibly
completely.
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Refactor_Type_System
What might the next version of the type system look like?
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and forward-reference issue, we can just forbid
them in DML CTE at first.
Sounds good :)
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of previous CTEs, just
as current non-writeable ones do. A lot of the useful cases for this
feature depend on this visibility.
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way that different data modifications made in a single
INSERT/UPDATE/DELETE command are considered to be made simultaneously.
+1
-1.
When people want to see what has gone before, they can use RETURNING
clauses. With the indeterminate order proposal, they cannot.
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table, so as less-rolled data get
deleted, they get aggregated into an INSERT into that table. Think of
RRDtool, only with a real data store.
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you wanted,
was clearly the right choice.
Hopefully we can have the build farm animals run the dcheck target
once SSI is committed.
Does Perl have some kind of concurrency-controlled test framework?
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),generate_series(1,100),...;
... and that was *before* CTEs made SQL Turing-complete.
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best to separate the node descriptions
from the adjacency list that links them together.
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On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:55:07AM +0900, Itagaki Takahiro wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:34 AM, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
Do we need to 'add' it?
Possibly. My understanding is that it couldn't really replace it.
Ah, I see. I was wrong. We can have modification privileges
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:35:13PM +0100, Dean Rasheed wrote:
On 25 October 2010 21:01, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
Folks,
Please find attached patch for $subject :)
Thanks for looking at this. I forgot about tab completion.
I think that the change to ALTER TRIGGER
Folks,
I just realized I hadn't closed out the commitfest earlier. Have done
so.
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range types, we can
do the basic research that would involve, etc., later.
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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:21:49AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
David Fetter da...@fetter.org writes:
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 06:59:34PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
Put me in the camp that says you need both. I really seriously
dislike the idea of representing [1, 2) as [1, 2-epsilon], mainly
Folks,
Please find attached patch for $subject :)
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On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:30:49AM +0900, Itagaki Takahiro wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 5:01 AM, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
Please find attached patch for $subject :)
Thank you for maintaining psql tab completion, but I'm not sure
whether tgtype is the best column
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:10:53AM +0900, Itagaki Takahiro wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:53 AM, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
How about has_table_privilege() to filter candidate relations
That's orthogonal to tgtype (snip) Shall I send a new patch with
that added?
Do we need
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looked over what's in
contrib/intarray ?
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the
aforementioned largish machine to test it on :)
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from EDB have mentioned that slimming down the on-disk
representation was one such target. What other ones would you see as
needing such attention?
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On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 07:26:32AM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:18:25AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:03:55AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 2:03 AM
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 04:13:04PM +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
David Fetter wrote:
For my vote, I'd prefer either the Oid of a custom type or an array
of Oid, Datum pairs - i.e. something we can extend in the future if
required.
This sounds a lot like a foreign key to another table
either the Oid of a custom type or an array
of Oid, Datum pairs - i.e. something we can extend in the future if
required.
This sounds a lot like a foreign key to another table. Are you not
proposing doing that because of performance considerations?
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it. A quick glance at the code reveals that a
PGresult can store individual error fields but a PGconn can store only
a message. :-(
Does this seem worth patching for 9.1?
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On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:18:25AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:03:55AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Dmitriy Igrishin dmit...@gmail.com
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I've asked pgsql
else?
+1 for dropping a tarball on the FTP mirrors. That way it's
distributed and hard to lose. :)
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not clear enough from context.
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lines might not be very desirable if the database is huge.
One way to get them in sync without starting from scratch is to use
rsync from A to B. This works in the asynchronous case, too. :)
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On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 05:53:30PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us writes:
Should we consider moving pg_filedump into our /contrib?
Can't: it's GPL.
Depends on whether we can get it relicensed.
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like to see this submitted.
Perhaps they'd like to participate :)
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might find necessary to run.
As people will want to up- or downgrade extensions to a particular
version, this should probably be something more like ALTER EXTENSION
... SET VERSION [version number | LATEST | PREVIOUS ]... or something
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and test downgrade
code are much less likely to have their upgrades cause such failures
in the first place, but there's not much to do about that.
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On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 04:04:56AM -0500, Radosław Smogura wrote:
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:29:16 -0500, Kevin Grittner
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David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
Please find enclosed a WIP patch from one of my co-workers
intended to support JDBC's
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:37:00AM -0500, Kevin Grittner wrote:
David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
Is there something incomplete about the ones I sent, and if so,
what?
Well, I'm still curious why it was necessary to modify the server
side to implement an interface feature for which
helped a few times
that there has been no PANIC but just a FATAL or ERROR, for
example. It's easy to attach GDB to such a backend.
Nice tip, thanks!
Where should we preserve this, other than the mailing list archives?
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 04:14:04PM +0530, Vaibhav Kaushal wrote:
Is there something like that in Kdevelop? I dont use CLI editors much.
KDevelop is listed as one of the editors that support ctags.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ctags
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On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 10:54:47AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
David Fetter da...@fetter.org writes:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:29:56PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
Yeah, that might be better. Is it reasonable to assume we always
want to push down as much as possible, or do we need to think about
SR in 9.1, and you
among others will be very unhappy.
So yes, it is stalled, and yes, there's a real urgency to actually
getting a baseline something in there in the next couple of weeks.
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 09:52:46AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
David Fetter da...@fetter.org writes:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 09:14:42AM +0100, Simon Riggs wrote:
I don't see anything has stalled.
I do. We're half way through this commitfest, so if no one's
actually ready to commit one
step 5 is
not doable, let me know. If you think it is, this is your chance to
help make it happen. Write back either way.
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care about changing the expected output, we can
just trim the whitespace as Peter suggested originally.
I must be missing something pretty crucial here as far as the
complexity of changing all the regression tests. Wouldn't trimming
all trailing whitespace do the trick?
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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 03:11:07PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 01:53:45PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Alvaro Herrera
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Excerpts from
.
You probably could. I'm very doubtful it's worth it...
Back to a question you asked earlier, what exactly still depends on
CVS right now, as in which buildfarm animals, what parts of the NLS
processes? Also as you asked earlier, what else?
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On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:17:35AM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
On 09/23/2010 10:58 AM, David Fetter wrote:
Back to a question you asked earlier, what exactly still depends on
CVS right now, as in which buildfarm animals, what parts of the NLS
processes? Also as you asked earlier, what
way to do this using the same code in the windowing
and non-windowing case, that would be much, much better from an
architectural point of view. Single Point of Truth and all that.
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requirements.
What say?
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On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 04:28:04PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
David Fetter da...@fetter.org writes:
We can start by supporting only platforms git runs on, this being
the first in what I'd picture as a set of base requirements.
Sounds like allowing the tail to wag the dog.
Runs git is actually
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 02:02:18PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 13:58 -0700, David Fetter wrote:
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 04:28:04PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
David Fetter da...@fetter.org writes:
We can start by supporting only platforms git runs on, this being
a buildfarm animal with your development environment on it isn't.
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a message to it so it can
take appropriate action on the node, starting with shutting it down?
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trailing whitespace in the table headers,
I think removing trailing whitespace in headers itself is
reasonable, but the change breaks almost all of regression tests.
Will we adjust expected results for the change?
On its face, this doesn't seem like a hard change to make.
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to be a great commitfest.
Now, to work!
At the time of this writing, 21 patches have Nobody reviewing them.
That's 21 more than we need. I'll start assigning the ones unpicked
tomorrow morning :)
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for Czech language. People who need fast
processing just use a simple dictionary - and probably there are not
any pg hacker from Poland or Slovakia.
I know of at least one in Poland, and I'd be amazed if there were none
from Slovakia.
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quite simply never going to happen, so you need to back off.
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Folks,
If you've got a patch you want to have as part of this commitfest and
it's not already on the page, you have until 2200 PST8PDT to get it on
there.
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,
David (Commitfest Cat Herd of the Month).
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Consider
in the backend, walsender, startup process
and walreceiver. If a latch feature Heikki proposed will have been committed,
I'll replace that with a latch.
Now that the latch patch is in, when do you think you'll be able to use it
instead of the poll loop?
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in the Reviewers
column.
https://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=7
Let's make 5771[1] PostgreSQL's best year yet!
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David.
[1] That's the Jewish year just begun.
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mentioning cos its just
the Byzantine Generals problem.
For completeness, a reference to the aforementioned Byzantine
Generals: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_fault_tolerance
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ROLE read_only FREEZE transaction_isolation;
I'd think of the reverse of each of these as GRANT and ALTER ... THAW,
respectively.
Is anyone else interested in such a feature? If so, is it more
DCL-ish, or more DDL-ish?
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On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 12:41:51PM -0700, Jeff Davis wrote:
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 11:39 -0700, David Fetter wrote:
We'd like to create a role called read_only, with eponymous
capability.
Seems useful.
Great to hear :)
If so, is it more
DCL-ish, or more DDL-ish?
I don't like
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 02:43:12PM -0700, Jeff Davis wrote:
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 13:30 -0700, David Fetter wrote:
Offhand, I'm not thinking of past examples of mutating/disappearing
GUC that people would want to freeze, nor of a new GUC that would
negate or substantially alter
be here as with previous builds:
http://www.enterprisedb.com/products/pgdevdownload.do
I hate to mention this at this late date, but it just occurred to me
that the ordering is Alpha, then Beta, then Release Candidates, then
Release. Did I get that wrong?
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of recording
ignorance (other than NULL, that is ;)
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On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 01:11:03PM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 08:07:33PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net wrote:
On mån, 2010-09-06 at 19:38 +0100, Dave Page wrote:
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Peter
if you decide
to do the work to fix them, and by the time you've done that work,
your youth will also be waning ;)
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* Detecting errors
* Issuing ROLLBACKs to the aforementioned SAVEPOINT
None of this works super well for a bulk load.
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Hello,
At work, I've been tasked with providing some Windows connection
libraries, etc. Are people still using MinGW, or should I just
recommend using a proprietary toolkit to do the builds? If so, which
one(s)?
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;
-- if it works
RELEASE my_savepoint;
-- if it fails
ROLLBACK TO my_savepoint;
RELEASE my_savepoint;
Granted, it's not super-performant ...
We have no mechanism to do this, or any other check, during a bulk
load. It'd be a great feature to have :)
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David.
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On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 06:24:06PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 17:18, Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org wrote:
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 4:11 PM, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
Hello,
At work, I've been tasked with providing some Windows connection
libraries, etc
for removing the NULLs.
WHERE clause :P
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, but things still seem unclear. Do
we have a final agreed upon patch that I can use? Any links for that?
No.
That was a mite brusque and not super informative.
There are patches, and the latest from Fujii Masao is probably worth
looking at :)
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David.
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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:07:40PM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
Hello
attached WIP patch.
I don't see it attached. Is it just me?
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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 08:34:31PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:24 PM, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 05:44:15PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
fazool mein wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm interested in benchmarking synchronous replication
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:40:30AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
So I got annoyed by $SUBJECT just now while chasing Wheeler's bug
report. Seems like this would be a good thing to print. Should
it appear always, or just with VERBOSE, or ???
+1 for always.
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), ROW('1.2.23', '=', '1.2.23')])
(3 rows)
Look reasonable?
This would have helped me a good deal a couple of times this week :)
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