Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] pg_upgrade ?deficiency

2013-12-08 Thread Karsten Hilbert
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Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] pg_upgrade ?deficiency

2013-12-02 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 11:41:10AM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: If there were databases or users with default_transaction_read_only set in the old cluster, the pg_dumpall run will cause that property to be set in the new cluster, so what you are saying seems to be that a cluster can't

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] pg_upgrade ?deficiency

2013-12-02 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 01:24:18PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: If there were databases or users with default_transaction_read_only set in the old cluster, the pg_dumpall run will cause that property to be set in the new cluster, so what you are saying seems to be that a

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] pg_upgrade ?deficiency

2013-12-01 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 03:21:08PM -0800, Kevin Grittner wrote: If your argument is that you want pg_upgrade to work even if the user already turned on default_transaction_read_only in the *new* cluster, I would humbly disagree with that goal, for pretty much the same reasons I didn't

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] pg_upgrade ?deficiency

2013-11-28 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 09:22:50PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: Well, I can understand that, but part of the argument was that default_transaction_read_only is not part of the database, but rather just the transaction default: Karsten wrote: Maybe I am splitting hairs but setting

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] pg_upgrade ?deficiency

2013-11-28 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:39:18AM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: Well, then we are actually using two different reasons for patching pg_dumpall and not pg_dump. Your reason is based on the probability of failure, while Tom/Kevin's reason is that default_transaction_read_only might be used to

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] pg_upgrade ?deficiency

2013-11-27 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 03:25:44PM -0800, Kevin Grittner wrote: doc patch? Instead of the fix you mean, or with it?  I don't see what we would change in the docs for the fix; the alternative might be to document that pg_dumpall output will fail to restore if any database (or the restoring

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] pg_upgrade ?deficiency

2013-11-23 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 08:44:42AM -0800, Kevin Grittner wrote: Here's my problem with that.  Here's setup to create what I don't think is all that weird a setup: ... The following appears to produce a good backup, since there is no error: ... Now we attempt to restore what we thought

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] pg_upgrade ?deficiency

2013-11-23 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:11:56PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: I also agree with *not* changing pg_dump, since it is not the charter of pg_dump to recreate a whole cluster, and the objection about possibly restoring into a database that was meant to be protected by this setting seems to have some

Re: [HACKERS] [ANNOUNCE] == Postgres Weekly News - March 09 2008 ==

2008-03-11 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:16:52AM -0700, David Fetter wrote: - Add to TODO: Add SQLSTATE severity to PGconn return status. Yes, please. I have recently been discussing this with Andreas, Bernd and Peter at Linuxtage Chemnitz. In GNUmed we want to be able to distinguish connection errors due