Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Avoiding legal email signatures

2007-06-12 Thread Tom Lane
"Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andrew Hammond wrote: >> Why? If the legal mumbo-jumbo has already got some precedence as being >> un-enforcable (even if it's only in a handful of jurisdictions), why >> give it even a patina of credibility by addressing it in a policy? > It is alwa

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Avoiding legal email signatures

2007-06-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Andrew Hammond wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/12/07, Tom Lane wrote: A more serious objection is that any automated tool would probably get it wrong sometimes, and strip important text. > I vote 'lets not bother' Right. I agree with Josh's idea about mentioning li

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Avoiding legal email signatures

2007-06-12 Thread Andrew Hammond
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/12/07, Tom Lane wrote: A more serious objection is that any automated tool would probably get it wrong sometimes, and strip important text. > I vote 'lets not bother' Right. I agree with Josh's idea about mentioning list policies in the subs

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Avoiding legal email signatures

2007-06-12 Thread Tom Lane
Dave Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Josh Berkus wrote: >> The only additional idea I have is that we ought to simply strip away any >> e-mail footer over 4 lines from the archives. Not only would this purge >> the >> confidentiality footers, it would save us some space in general. > The e

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Avoiding legal email signatures

2007-06-12 Thread Dave Page
Josh Berkus wrote: > The only additional idea I have is that we ought to simply strip away any > e-mail footer over 4 lines from the archives. Not only would this purge the > confidentiality footers, it would save us some space in general. The effort it would take to write some code to extract

Re: [HACKERS] Avoiding legal email signatures

2007-06-12 Thread Josh Berkus
All, > Perhaps we make a policy that corporate-style ("disclaimered") mail > is encouraged to seek support via corporate-style channels (e.g. is > pointed at the commercial support companies).  I'm uncomfortable with > such a policy, but it'd be better than "ignore these nasty corporate > victims"

Re: [HACKERS] Avoiding legal email signatures

2007-06-10 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 12:50:11PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: > This is all true, but the reality here is that people in such a situation > are usually flat-out violating their corporate policy by posting to the > list at all from inside this kind of company. We don't know that in advance, and

Re: [HACKERS] Avoiding legal email signatures

2007-06-10 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Greg Smith wrote: On Sat, 9 Jun 2007, Bruce Momjian wrote: If enough people do that, it might coerce people to avoid them, and perhaps we could put something in the FAQ about it. You should just say flat-out that the terms of the mailing list are incompatible with confidentiality and similar

Re: [HACKERS] Avoiding legal email signatures

2007-06-10 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Bruce Momjian wrote: I know we have talked about how to avoid legal email signatures on this list. One idea would be for a small percentage of our users to ignore emails with a legal signature. I know I am less likely to reply to such an email. Bah Bruce come on. The people that are sendi

Re: [HACKERS] Avoiding legal email signatures

2007-06-10 Thread Greg Smith
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Andrew Sullivan wrote: Moreover, people who are in such environments are often prevented from visiting gmail, hotmail, or the other likely suspects in order to send their messages in circumvention of corporate policy. This is all true, but the reality here is that people

Re: [HACKERS] Avoiding legal email signatures

2007-06-10 Thread Greg Smith
On Sat, 9 Jun 2007, Bruce Momjian wrote: If enough people do that, it might coerce people to avoid them, and perhaps we could put something in the FAQ about it. You should just say flat-out that the terms of the mailing list are incompatible with confidentiality and similar legal disclaimers

Re: [HACKERS] Avoiding legal email signatures

2007-06-10 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 06:14:00PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I know we have talked about how to avoid legal email signatures on this > list. One idea would be for a small percentage of our users to ignore > emails with a legal signature. I know I am less likely to reply to such > an email. T

[HACKERS] Avoiding legal email signatures

2007-06-09 Thread Bruce Momjian
I know we have talked about how to avoid legal email signatures on this list. One idea would be for a small percentage of our users to ignore emails with a legal signature. I know I am less likely to reply to such an email. If enough people do that, it might coerce people to avoid them, and perh