Re: [HACKERS] Can we get patents?

2005-05-13 Thread mr_reznat
Another difficulty with establishing prior art to prevent others from obtaining patents is that different inventors and different patent agents or attorneys use different terminology to describe the same or similar inventions. To use a simple mechanical example: - Alex develops gadget that i

Re: [HACKERS] Can we get patents?

2005-05-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 16:57:01 -0400, Dave Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 3) His question was why? With a bsd license you can't stop anyone from > using it and nobody > else can patent it since by placing it in the project you are > establishing prior art. Nope. They can still be iss

Re: [HACKERS] Can we get patents?

2005-05-10 Thread Dave Cramer
I've talked to a friend of mine who is a patent lawyer. 1) in Europe if it is in the public domain then it cannot be patented 2) in North America you would have to patent before submitting to the project. 3) His question was why? With a bsd license you can't stop anyone from using it and nobody e

Re: [HACKERS] Can we get patents?

2005-05-10 Thread David Walker
> That depends; is the SFLC offering to pay for the patent applications? Last > I > checked, it was somewhere around $6000 per patent. Nolo press (www.nolo.com) sells a book on patents. Many people file their own patent applications successfully. The cost is less that $1000. David

Re: [HACKERS] Can we get patents?

2005-05-09 Thread Jaime Casanova
On 5/9/05, Dann Corbit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the idea originates in PostgreSQL, then nobody else can patent it, > because there will be pre-existing art (the PostgreSQL engine) that > already demonstrated the idea. A patent must have a novel idea in it. > > I do not think a good thing c

Re: [HACKERS] Can we get patents?

2005-05-09 Thread Dann Corbit
of interest: http://swpat.ffii.org/index.en.html Of course, it is IMO-YMMV. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:pgsql-hackers- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alvaro Herrera > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 10:14 PM > To: Hackers > Subject: [HACKERS]

Re: [HACKERS] Can we get patents?

2005-05-08 Thread Josh Berkus
Alvaro, > I'm wondering, could the PostgreSQL Foundation (or some other entity) > get patents on some parts of Postgres? Maybe ResourceOwners for > example; or the newer parts of the optimizer. That depends; is the SFLC offering to pay for the patent applications? Last I checked, it was somewh

Re: [HACKERS] Can we get patents?

2005-05-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 8 May 2005, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Hackers, I was reading LWN.net and noticed an article about Eben Moglen's keynote at linux.conf.au. Apparently he advises free software projects to get patents on their best ideas. Eben encouraged free software developers to record their novel

[HACKERS] Can we get patents?

2005-05-07 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Hackers, I was reading LWN.net and noticed an article about Eben Moglen's keynote at linux.conf.au. Apparently he advises free software projects to get patents on their best ideas. Eben encouraged free software developers to record their novel inventions and to obtain patents on