Re: [HACKERS] Changing references of password encryption to hashing

2017-04-05 Thread Noah Misch
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 07:27:11AM -0700, Joe Conway wrote: > On 03/16/2017 06:19 AM, Robert Haas wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:48 AM, Craig Ringer wrote: > >> So I'm in favour of fixing the docs but I'm not keen on changing the > >> SQL syntax in a way that just

Re: [HACKERS] Changing references of password encryption to hashing

2017-03-16 Thread Stephen Frost
* Joe Conway (m...@joeconway.com) wrote: > On 03/16/2017 06:19 AM, Robert Haas wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:48 AM, Craig Ringer wrote: > >> So I'm in favour of fixing the docs but I'm not keen on changing the > >> SQL syntax in a way that just kind of papers over

Re: [HACKERS] Changing references of password encryption to hashing

2017-03-16 Thread Joe Conway
On 03/16/2017 06:19 AM, Robert Haas wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:48 AM, Craig Ringer wrote: >> So I'm in favour of fixing the docs but I'm not keen on changing the >> SQL syntax in a way that just kind of papers over part of the >> problems. > > I agree. I think

Re: [HACKERS] Changing references of password encryption to hashing

2017-03-16 Thread Robert Haas
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:48 AM, Craig Ringer wrote: > So I'm in favour of fixing the docs but I'm not keen on changing the > SQL syntax in a way that just kind of papers over part of the > problems. I agree. I think that trying to design new SQL syntax at this point is

Re: [HACKERS] Changing references of password encryption to hashing

2017-03-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 04:48:21PM +0800, Craig Ringer wrote: > On 12 March 2017 at 06:51, Joe Conway wrote: > > > My opinion is that the user visible aspects of this should be deprecated > > and correct syntax provided. But perhaps that is overkill. > > FWIW, in my

Re: [HACKERS] Changing references of password encryption to hashing

2017-03-13 Thread Craig Ringer
On 12 March 2017 at 06:51, Joe Conway wrote: > My opinion is that the user visible aspects of this should be deprecated > and correct syntax provided. But perhaps that is overkill. FWIW, in my experience, pretty much nobody understands the pretty tangled behaviour of "WITH

Re: [HACKERS] Changing references of password encryption to hashing

2017-03-13 Thread Michael Paquier
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Joe Conway wrote: > On 03/09/2017 06:16 PM, Michael Paquier wrote: >> As discussed here: >> https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/98cafcd0-5557-0bdf-4837-0f2b7782d...@joeconway.com >> We are using in documentation and code comments "encryption"

Re: [HACKERS] Changing references of password encryption to hashing

2017-03-11 Thread Joe Conway
On 03/09/2017 06:16 PM, Michael Paquier wrote: > As discussed here: > https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/98cafcd0-5557-0bdf-4837-0f2b7782d...@joeconway.com > We are using in documentation and code comments "encryption" to define > what actually is hashing, which is confusing. > > Attached is a

[HACKERS] Changing references of password encryption to hashing

2017-03-09 Thread Michael Paquier
Hi all, As discussed here: https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/98cafcd0-5557-0bdf-4837-0f2b7782d...@joeconway.com We are using in documentation and code comments "encryption" to define what actually is hashing, which is confusing. Attached is a patch for HEAD to change the documentation to