Re: [HACKERS] Introducing an advanced Frequent Update Optimization

2006-11-09 Thread Tom Lane
"Simon Riggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ...and of course it would be good if LISTEN/NOTIFY were able to use this > concept also, to help Slony along also. LISTEN/NOTIFY are overdue to be rewritten to not use a table at all, so I'm not particularly worried about whether this idea is applicable

Re: [HACKERS] Introducing an advanced Frequent Update Optimization

2006-11-09 Thread Christopher Browne
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Simon Riggs"): > On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 15:00 +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote: >> Simon Riggs wrote: >> > EnterpriseDB has been running a research project to improve the >> > performance of heavily updated tables. We have a number of approaches >> > prototyped and we'd like to d

Re: [HACKERS] Introducing an advanced Frequent Update Optimization

2006-11-09 Thread Simon Riggs
On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 15:00 +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > Simon Riggs wrote: > > EnterpriseDB has been running a research project to improve the > > performance of heavily updated tables. We have a number of approaches > > prototyped and we'd like to discuss the best of these now on -hackers > > fo

Re: [HACKERS] Introducing an advanced Frequent Update Optimization

2006-11-09 Thread Simon Riggs
On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 04:09 -0500, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 09:50:53PM +, Simon Riggs wrote: > > - There are specific issues with the optimizer's ability to understand > > dead row numbers, which can in some cases lead to SeqScan plans that are > > inappropriate when ta

Re: [HACKERS] Introducing an advanced Frequent Update Optimization

2006-11-09 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 09:50:53PM +, Simon Riggs wrote: > - There are specific issues with the optimizer's ability to understand > dead row numbers, which can in some cases lead to SeqScan plans that are > inappropriate when tables grow because of updates. This is a red-herring > that can lea

Re: [HACKERS] Introducing an advanced Frequent Update Optimization

2006-11-06 Thread Simon Riggs
On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 13:02 +0900, ITAGAKI Takahiro wrote: > "Simon Riggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > EnterpriseDB has been running a research project to improve the > > performance of heavily updated tables. We have a number of approaches > > prototyped and we'd like to discuss the best of

Re: [HACKERS] Introducing an advanced Frequent Update Optimization

2006-11-06 Thread ITAGAKI Takahiro
"Simon Riggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > EnterpriseDB has been running a research project to improve the > performance of heavily updated tables. We have a number of approaches > prototyped and we'd like to discuss the best of these now on -hackers > for community input and patch submission to P

Re: [HACKERS] Introducing an advanced Frequent Update Optimization

2006-11-06 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Simon Riggs wrote: EnterpriseDB has been running a research project to improve the performance of heavily updated tables. We have a number of approaches prototyped and we'd like to discuss the best of these now on -hackers for community input and patch submission to PostgreSQL core. Excellent!

[HACKERS] Introducing an advanced Frequent Update Optimization

2006-11-06 Thread Simon Riggs
EnterpriseDB has been running a research project to improve the performance of heavily updated tables. We have a number of approaches prototyped and we'd like to discuss the best of these now on -hackers for community input and patch submission to PostgreSQL core. The most important step with any