Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-05 Thread Greg Stark
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Was that a 'native' part of SHELF? Or more related to their "TM1" > product? The full source was included in SHELF (if that was the source release I'm thinking of.) I think it was called axdata. > FYI, while Applix and VistaSource have "orphaned

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-05 Thread Christopher Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Stark) writes: > Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I think there is room for lots of GUIs, though, and having a Java >> admin GUI would be cool too, as would having a servlet/JSP based >> admin client deployable as a web archive. > > If someone's looking for an

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-05 Thread Andreas Pflug
Dave Page wrote: Anyway, CommandPrompt have apparently done something cool and they are donating it and we should all be happy, no? :-) With my PostgreSQL hat on, yes, it's a good thing. With my pgAdmin hat, no, it's a bad thing! I'm feeling quite relaxed about that. Competition stimulat

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-05 Thread Dave Page
> -Original Message- > From: Andrew Dunstan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 05 November 2003 12:48 > To: PostgreSQL-development > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage > > > > "especially" != "only" > Very true :-)

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-05 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- From: Andrew Dunstan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't get me wrong - pgadmin is cool - I especially recommend it to my Windows oriented clients and colleagues who hate using command lines. Why not your Linux or FreeBSD oriented colleagues?

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-05 Thread Andreas Pflug
Greg Stark wrote: Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I think there is room for lots of GUIs, though, and having a Java admin GUI would be cool too, as would having a servlet/JSP based admin client deployable as a web archive. If someone's looking for an interesting GUI project, Ap

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-05 Thread Dave Page
> -Original Message- > From: Andrew Dunstan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 05 November 2003 00:53 > To: PostgreSQL-development > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage > > > > Andreas Pflug wrote: > > pgAdmin is designed for a good in

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
D'oh, just clued into the 'java' aspect ... Joshua, will this run as a JSP, remotely, through Jakarta-Tomcat? One of the limitations of pgAdmin, as far as I'm concerned, is the fact that you can run it remotely Then use phpPgAdmin... Chris ---(end of broadcast)---

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Greg Stark
Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think there is room for lots of GUIs, though, and having a Java admin GUI > would be cool too, as would having a servlet/JSP based admin client deployable > as a web archive. If someone's looking for an interesting GUI project, Applix had a database

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Andreas Pflug wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: JSP, remotely, through Jakarta-Tomcat? One of the limitations of pgAdmin, as far as I'm concerned, is the fact that you can run it remotely ... if you could run pgManage under something like Jakarta-Tomcat as a JSP, that would be *really* cool ...

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Andreas Pflug
Marc G. Fournier wrote: JSP, remotely, through Jakarta-Tomcat? One of the limitations of pgAdmin, as far as I'm concerned, is the fact that you can run it remotely ... if you could run pgManage under something like Jakarta-Tomcat as a JSP, that would be *really* cool ... D'oh, just clued into

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Josh Berkus
Josh, > Yes it has a Java requirement but hey that is a lot easier than a > GTK requirement to fullfill. > My thought is that it could be included as pgAccess used to be. As we discussed, PostgreSQL is blessed with three ... now 4 ... good GUI interfaces. We don't have the justification

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Joshua D. Drake
D'oh, just clued into the 'java' aspect ... Joshua, will this run as a JSP, remotely, through Jakarta-Tomcat? One of the limitations of pgAdmin, as far as I'm concerned, is the fact that you can run it remotely ... if you could run pgManage under something like Jakarta-Tomcat as a JSP, that would

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Dave Cramer
If it doesn't do jsp now, it would be a good starting point for a web version, as java lends it self well to multiple views. Dave On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 15:59, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > >On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Joshua D. D

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Dave Cramer
Joshua, I'd love to see it donated to the community as well! Dave On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 16:01, Tom Lane wrote: > Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Joshua D. Drake writes: > >> I thought that we might donate it to the project as a whole. What are > >> people's thoughts on > >> this?

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > >On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > > > > > >>Hello, > >> > >> If that is the case that is fine. I just wanted to throw it out there > >>but doesn't that mean that > >>psql would be separate as well? > >> > >>

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Joshua D. Drake writes: >> I thought that we might donate it to the project as a whole. What are >> people's thoughts on >> this? > I think the decision has been made that no new client applications will be > included with PostgreSQL. "Donation" does

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Hello, If that is the case that is fine. I just wanted to throw it out there but doesn't that mean that psql would be separate as well? "no new client applications" BTW, Joshua, thanks for releasing this - all my cli

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Hello, > > If that is the case that is fine. I just wanted to throw it out there > but doesn't that mean that > psql would be separate as well? "no new client applications" ---(end of broadcast)---

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Rod Taylor
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 14:14, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Hello, > > As Command Prompt is about to release it's Replication product we are > open sourcing our > pgManage. pgManage is similar to pgAdmin but as it is java based it is > truly cross platform > and should easily support most if not all

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Hello, If that is the case that is fine. I just wanted to throw it out there but doesn't that mean that psql would be separate as well? J Peter Eisentraut wrote: Joshua D. Drake writes: I thought that we might donate it to the project as a whole. What are people's thoughts on this?

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Joshua D. Drake writes: > I thought that we might donate it to the project as a whole. What are > people's thoughts on > this? I think the decision has been made that no new client applications will be included with PostgreSQL. We will provide a server and let a happy bunch of client applicati

[HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Hello, As Command Prompt is about to release it's Replication product we are open sourcing our pgManage. pgManage is similar to pgAdmin but as it is java based it is truly cross platform and should easily support most if not all of the community supported platforms. I thought that we might d