Re: array_agg (was Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list)

2008-11-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Ian Caulfield wrote: 2008/10/15 Ian Caulfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I started to look at implementing array_agg by making the existing intagg stuff more generic ... and here's what I've come up with. Going through the commit fest listings, I think we can safely omit this patch and work out an

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-15 Thread Ian Caulfield
2008/10/14 Robert Treat [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 13 October 2008 04:53:44 Markus Wanner wrote: Having reviewed the last commit fest's intagg patch as well, I thought we agreed that a more general functionality is wanted for core. But as long as we don't have that, I'd like intagg to

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-15 Thread Greg Stark
Sorry for top posting - darn phone... 1) as I mentioned when I reviewed the patch in commitfest I don't see the point of the manual memory management. Palloc/realloc has just the same kind of doubling behaviour behind the scenes anyways. Just call realloc before adding every new element.

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-15 Thread Ian Caulfield
2008/10/15 Greg Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry for top posting - darn phone... 1) as I mentioned when I reviewed the patch in commitfest I don't see the point of the manual memory management. Palloc/realloc has just the same kind of doubling behaviour behind the scenes anyways. Just call

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-15 Thread Tom Lane
Greg Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Come to think of it though... Do we require creators of new aggregates own the state transition function? If not we have a problem... No, but they are required to have permission to call it. So you could restrict the transition function to superusers if

array_agg (was Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list)

2008-10-15 Thread Ian Caulfield
2008/10/15 Ian Caulfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I started to look at implementing array_agg by making the existing intagg stuff more generic ... and here's what I've come up with. I've currently implemented this as a contrib module to make it quicker to develop/test. The aggregate uses the same

Re: array_agg (was Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list)

2008-10-15 Thread Robert Haas
I've been taking a look at this as well and came up with a slightly different approach. The attached patch is intended to go in core (not contrib) and uses some array-construction facilities that already exist in core. I'm not sure which approach is better, so I'll throw this out there with

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-14 Thread Robert Treat
On Monday 13 October 2008 04:53:44 Markus Wanner wrote: Hi, Josh Berkus wrote: So it sounds like intagg is still in use/development. But ... is it more of an example, or is it useful as a type/function in production? We use it in production for quite remarkable speedups of operations on

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-13 Thread Markus Wanner
Hi, Josh Berkus wrote: So it sounds like intagg is still in use/development. But ... is it more of an example, or is it useful as a type/function in production? We use it in production for quite remarkable speedups of operations on int4[]. Having reviewed the last commit fest's intagg patch

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-12 Thread Gregory Stark
Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So it sounds like intagg is still in use/development. But ... is it more of an example, or is it useful as a type/function in production? Based on the patch submitted it's definitely in heavy production use. -- Gregory Stark EnterpriseDB

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-12 Thread Marko Kreen
On 10/11/08, D'Arcy J.M. Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No need. I have places to put it up. I would like to make the following changes for the CVS archives before it is removed though. Any objections? Index: chkpass.c ===

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-12 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:57:58 +0300 Marko Kreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/11/08, D'Arcy J.M. Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + if (!random_initialized) + { + srandom((unsigned int) time(NULL)); + random_initialized = true; + } This is bad idea, postgres

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-12 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 10:41:21AM -0400, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: + if ((result = (char *) palloc(16)) != NULL) + { + result[0] = ':'; + strcpy(result + 1, password-password); + } AFAIK palloc() cannot return NULL? Really? My program will simply come

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-12 Thread Tom Lane
D'Arcy J.M. Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:57:58 +0300 Marko Kreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is bad idea, postgres already does srandom() Is that new? I added that to my local version at one time because I was getting the same salt every time I ran it. Quite a

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-12 Thread Magnus Hagander
D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:57:58 +0300 Marko Kreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/11/08, D'Arcy J.M. Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + if (!random_initialized) + { + srandom((unsigned int) time(NULL)); + random_initialized = true; + } This is bad

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-12 Thread Gregory Stark
Magnus Hagander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:57:58 +0300 Marko Kreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/11/08, D'Arcy J.M. Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + if (!random_initialized) + { + srandom((unsigned int) time(NULL)); +

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-12 Thread Magnus Hagander
Gregory Stark wrote: Magnus Hagander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:57:58 +0300 Marko Kreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/11/08, D'Arcy J.M. Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + if (!random_initialized) + { + srandom((unsigned int)

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-11 Thread Gregory Stark
Robert Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CREATE AGGREGATE array_accum (anyelement) CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION array_enum(anyarray) Have you actually tried these functions on large data sets? They're not in the same performance league as intagg. Your array_accum is O(n^2)! -- Gregory Stark

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-11 Thread Robert Haas
CREATE AGGREGATE array_accum (anyelement) CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION array_enum(anyarray) Have you actually tried these functions on large data sets? No. :-) They're not in the same performance league as intagg. Your array_accum is O(n^2)! It's not mine - I copied it from the official

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-11 Thread Gregory Stark
Robert Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If it's a bad way to do it, that's certainly an argument for keeping (or maybe generalizing) intagg. There was actually a patch this past commitfest to *add* functionality to intagg. When I reviewed it I said it would make more sense to generalize it and

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-11 Thread Robert Haas
If it's a bad way to do it, that's certainly an argument for keeping (or maybe generalizing) intagg. There was actually a patch this past commitfest to *add* functionality to intagg. When I reviewed it I said it would make more sense to generalize it and integrate that functionality into the

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-11 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:28:29 -0700 Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's that time again! Purging antiquated contrib modules. chkpass: this module is incomplete and does not implement all functions it describes. It's not really even useful as an Example since it uses crypt() and not

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-11 Thread Ron Mayer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it seems that intagg should rather live in a section examples than in contrib? Perhaps. Seems my old intagg use case from 8.1 is not really needed anymore since it seems ANY got much smarter since then. Cool.

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-11 Thread Stephen Frost
* Gregory Stark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Robert Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CREATE AGGREGATE array_accum (anyelement) CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION array_enum(anyarray) Have you actually tried these functions on large data sets? They're not in the same performance league as intagg.

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-11 Thread Magnus Hagander
D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:28:29 -0700 Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's that time again! Purging antiquated contrib modules. chkpass: this module is incomplete and does not implement all functions it describes. It's not really even useful as an Example since

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-11 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:07:31 +0200 Magnus Hagander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: However, if all it needs is a modern encryption scheme that's probably an hour's work. The only reason that I haven't done so yet is because I have no use case. If I am storing encrypted

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-11 Thread Josh Berkus
D'Arcy, However, if all it needs is a modern encryption scheme that's probably an hour's work. The only reason that I haven't done so yet is because I have no use case. Well, I had no use case either which is why I didn't propose updating it. I can certainly see having chkpass live on

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-11 Thread Josh Berkus
All, So it sounds like intagg is still in use/development. But ... is it more of an example, or is it useful as a type/function in production? --Josh -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription:

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-11 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:57:50 -0700 Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, if all it needs is a modern encryption scheme that's probably an hour's work. The only reason that I haven't done so yet is because I have no use case. Well, I had no use case either which is why I didn't

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-11 Thread Ron Mayer
Josh Berkus wrote: So it sounds like intagg is still in use/development. But ... is it more of an example, or is it useful as a type/function in production? Where I work we (and our customers) use it in our production systems. At first glance it seems our reasons for using it are mostly

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-11 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So it sounds like intagg is still in use/development. But ... is it more of an example, or is it useful as a type/function in production? You're still asking the wrong list ... regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing

[HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-10 Thread Josh Berkus
Folks, It's that time again! Purging antiquated contrib modules. chkpass: this module is incomplete and does not implement all functions it describes. It's not really even useful as an Example since it uses crypt() and not any modern encryption. And Darcy hasn't touched it in 6 years.

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-10 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any objections to dropping both of these? You should ask on -general, not here, if you are trying to find out whether the modules have any users. I tend to agree that chkpass is of doubtful value, but I'm not so sure about intagg. As you said yourself, we

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Haas
intagg: the aggregation function has been obsolete since 7.4 because standard array functionality supports the same. intagg has a nice equivalent for UNROLL, but it only works for arrays of INT, and only one-dimensional arrays. Has not been updated since 2001. I think this one can be

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-10 Thread Joshua Drake
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:28:29 -0700 Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, It's that time again! Purging antiquated contrib modules. chkpass: this module is incomplete and does not implement all functions it describes. It's not really even useful as an Example since it uses crypt()

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-10 Thread Ron Mayer
Josh Berkus wrote: intagg: ... Has not been updated since 2001. Really? Just a couple years ago (2005) bugs we reported were still getting fixed in it: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2005-03/msg00202.php http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2005-04/msg00165.php Here's one

Re: [HACKERS] The Axe list

2008-10-10 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 09:09:51PM -0700, Ron Mayer wrote: Josh Berkus wrote: intagg: ... Has not been updated since 2001. [...] I also like intagg, because it's kinda like a hello world for writing one kind of C extensions. I'm not saying it