Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-02 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The Artistic License doesn't even qualify as Free Software as far as the > FSF is concerned. Errr, http://www.fsf.org/licenses/license-list.html lists it as not only Free Software but GPL-compatible. Mike. ---(end of broadca

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> Ummm ... stupid question, but can we even bring this into the 'core'? > >> > >> You may distribute under the terms of either the GNU General Public > >> License or the Artistic License

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> Ummm ... stupid question, but can we even bring this into the 'core'? >> >> You may distribute under the terms of either the GNU General Public >> License or the Artistic License, as specified in the Perl README file. > Artis

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Nigel J. Andrews
Someone said earlier cvsup would have problems but the anonymous cvs would work fine. Well I've just had a weirdness reconfiguring and rebuilding my few weeks old 7.3dev tree and so deleted it and tried using the anoncvs to get pgsql. Running configure gives me the error: ./configure: ./src/t

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday 01 August 2002 05:22 pm, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Lamar Owen wrote: > > It's already in CPAN. A link to CPAN should suffice, IMHO. > > I also thought we were discussing trimming the tree; and that was a good > > feeling. > Lamar, you said earlier today: > > And the sooner our very old

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
Lamar Owen wrote: > On Thursday 01 August 2002 04:37 pm, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > I thought we were talking about trimming the source tree, not adding more. > > Why not put it on gborg or somewhere else? > > It's already in CPAN. A link to CPAN should suffice, IMHO. > > I also thought we wer

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Bruce Momjian writes: > > > Artistic License is fine, I think. > > The Artistic License doesn't even qualify as Free Software as far as the > FSF is concerned. > > More generally, it is a different license, and that is a problem. Well, our ODBC is LGPL. I wonder if E

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Thursday 01 August 2002 04:37 pm, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > I thought we were talking about trimming the source tree, not adding more. > > Why not put it on gborg or somewhere else? > > It's already in CPAN. A link to CPAN should suffice, IMHO. > > I

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday 01 August 2002 04:37 pm, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > I thought we were talking about trimming the source tree, not adding more. > Why not put it on gborg or somewhere else? It's already in CPAN. A link to CPAN should suffice, IMHO. I also thought we were discussing trimming the tree;

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian writes: > OK, I got the go-ahead from Edmund. We will have DBD:pg in the 7.3 > tarball. I will add it to CVS today or tomorrow. Please, no more Perl modules in our CVS! The ones we have are already messy enough to build. I thought we were talking about trimming the source t

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian writes: > Artistic License is fine, I think. The Artistic License doesn't even qualify as Free Software as far as the FSF is concerned. More generally, it is a different license, and that is a problem. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday 01 August 2002 02:21 pm, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Lamar Owen wrote: > > > And the sooner our very old perl client goes away, the better I like > > > it. It is a good client, don't get me wrong: but DBD:Pg is the > > > standard now. > > I have been in contact wi

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Ummm ... stupid question, but can we even bring this into the 'core'? > >You may distribute under the terms of either the GNU General Public >License or the Artistic License, as specified in the Perl README file. Artistic License is fine, I think. -- Bruc

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Ummm ... stupid question, but can we even bring this into the 'core'? You may distribute under the terms of either the GNU General Public License or the Artistic License, as specified in the Perl README file. On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Oleg Bartunov wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Lamar Owen wrote: > > > And the sooner our very old perl client goes away, the better I like it. It > > > is a good client, don't get me wrong: but DBD:Pg is the standard now. > > > > I have been in contact with Edmund about mov

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
Oleg Bartunov wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Lamar Owen wrote: > > > > And the sooner our very old perl client goes away, the better I like it. It > > > > is a good client, don't get me wrong: but DBD:Pg is the standard now. > > > > > > I have

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Oleg Bartunov
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Lamar Owen wrote: > > > And the sooner our very old perl client goes away, the better I like it. It > > > is a good client, don't get me wrong: but DBD:Pg is the standard now. > > > > I have been in contact with Edmund about mov

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Lamar Owen wrote: > > And the sooner our very old perl client goes away, the better I like it. It > > is a good client, don't get me wrong: but DBD:Pg is the standard now. > > I have been in contact with Edmund about moving DBD into our CVS and > updating CPAN ourselves.

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
Lamar Owen wrote: > And the sooner our very old perl client goes away, the better I like it. It > is a good client, don't get me wrong: but DBD:Pg is the standard now. I have been in contact with Edmund about moving DBD into our CVS and updating CPAN ourselves. Should have a final answer soon.

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday 01 August 2002 12:05 pm, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > > And the sooner our very old perl client goes away, the better I > > like it. It > > is a good client, don't get me wrong: but DBD:Pg is the standard now. > This may sound like a dumb question, but DBD::Pg == DBI right ? not pg.pm Ri

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Jeff MacDonald
> And the sooner our very old perl client goes away, the better I > like it. It > is a good client, don't get me wrong: but DBD:Pg is the standard now. > This may sound like a dumb question, but DBD::Pg == DBI right ? not pg.pm I code perl about 25 hours a week, and DBI has never failed me y

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-08-01 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday 31 July 2002 09:38 pm, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > Okay ... since this is pretty much going to be 'one camp for, one camp > against' without anything to really back up either camps perspectives / > arguments, I did some research on CVS in order to find a nice, effective > middle ground

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Thomas Lockhart wrote: > ... > > *Eventually*, a simple checkout of 'pgsql' should result in a "server > > only" distribution that we can pull bits and pieces into transparently ... > > I'm still not quite sure where this is headed or why, but if nothing > else pgsql could an

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-07-31 Thread Thomas Lockhart
... > *Eventually*, a simple checkout of 'pgsql' should result in a "server > only" distribution that we can pull bits and pieces into transparently ... I'm still not quite sure where this is headed or why, but if nothing else pgsql could and should be the whole thing, and pgsql-server could be t

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > Okay ... since this is pretty much going to be 'one camp for, one camp > > against' without anything to really back up either camps perspectives / > > arguments, I did some research on CVS in order to find a nice, effective > > middle ground

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-07-31 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
> Okay ... since this is pretty much going to be 'one camp for, one camp > against' without anything to really back up either camps perspectives / > arguments, I did some research on CVS in order to find a nice, effective > middle ground ... and it actually works quite sweet ... Personally, I'd l

[HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Okay ... since this is pretty much going to be 'one camp for, one camp against' without anything to really back up either camps perspectives / arguments, I did some research on CVS in order to find a nice, effective middle ground ... and it actually works quite sweet ... Basically, CVS let's you