On 09/05/2013 08:47 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Other ideas? Are there legitimate uses for SQL_ASCII?
IMO people who want SQL_ASCII should actually be storing everything in
`bytea`; that's a truer reflection of what they're actually storing,
retrieving, and working with and how they're doing
On 09/06/2013 09:14 AM, Craig Ringer wrote:
On 09/05/2013 08:47 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Other ideas? Are there legitimate uses for SQL_ASCII?
IMO people who want SQL_ASCII should actually be storing everything in
`bytea`; that's a truer reflection of what they're actually storing,
Craig Ringer cr...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
What we SHOULD be doing is making it an explicit decision to use
SQL_ASCII, and NEVER creating a cluster or database with that encoding
by default. Ever. If we can't decide what the correct default encoding
is (say, if locale is C) we should error out
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
There's a large undercurrent of I say it's bad for you in this thread,
with frankly nothing to back it up. If we try to be as nanny-ish as
you're suggesting here, we'll just annoy users.
+1.
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Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB:
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
There's a large undercurrent of I say it's bad for you in
this thread, with frankly nothing to back it up. If we try to
be as nanny-ish as you're suggesting here, we'll just annoy
users.
+1.
+1
I can definitely
Can we consider getting rid of the SQL_ASCII server-side encoding? I
don't see any good use for it, and it's often a support annoyance, and
it leaves warts all over the code. This would presumably be a
multi-release effort.
As a first step in accommodating users who have existing SQL_ASCII
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net wrote:
Can we consider getting rid of the SQL_ASCII server-side encoding? I
don't see any good use for it, and it's often a support annoyance, and
it leaves warts all over the code. This would presumably be a
multi-release
On 05.09.2013 15:47, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Can we consider getting rid of the SQL_ASCII server-side encoding? I
don't see any good use for it, and it's often a support annoyance, and
it leaves warts all over the code. This would presumably be a
multi-release effort.
I think warts all over
On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 08:47:32AM -0400, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Can we consider getting rid of the SQL_ASCII server-side encoding? I
don't see any good use for it, and it's often a support annoyance, and
it leaves warts all over the code. This would presumably be a
multi-release effort.
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
On 09/05/2013 09:42 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:
Other ideas? Are there legitimate uses for SQL_ASCII?
Migrating from MySQL. We've had some projects where we couldn't fix
MySQL's non-enforcement text garbage, and had to use SQL_ASCII on the
receiving side. If it
Peter,
Other ideas? Are there legitimate uses for SQL_ASCII?
Migrating from MySQL. We've had some projects where we couldn't fix
MySQL's non-enforcement text garbage, and had to use SQL_ASCII on the
receiving side. If it hadn't been available, the user would have given
up on Postgres.
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On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 09:42:17AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
Peter,
Other ideas? Are there legitimate uses for SQL_ASCII?
Migrating from MySQL. We've had some projects where we couldn't fix
MySQL's non-enforcement text garbage, and had to use SQL_ASCII on the
receiving side. If it
On 09/05/2013 10:02 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
iconv?
Command Prompt helped a customer normalize encodings in their data,
which was a mixture of Latin1 and UTF8. PGLoader was used for this, in
two stages; the first run in UTF8 saved the rejected data to a file
which
On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 09:53:18AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
On 09/05/2013 09:42 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:
Peter,
Other ideas? Are there legitimate uses for SQL_ASCII?
Migrating from MySQL. We've had some projects where we couldn't fix
MySQL's non-enforcement text garbage, and had
On 09/05/2013 09:42 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:
Peter,
Other ideas? Are there legitimate uses for SQL_ASCII?
Migrating from MySQL. We've had some projects where we couldn't fix
MySQL's non-enforcement text garbage, and had to use SQL_ASCII on the
receiving side. If it hadn't been available,
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