Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-10 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Jeff Davis pg...@j-davis.com wrote: On the flip side, if we don't provide review to WIP patches during the 3rd commitfest, how do we expect to get anything close to committable on the 1st commitfest of the next cycle? I'm not sure exactly what you're going for

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-10 Thread Jeff Davis
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 09:46 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Jeff Davis pg...@j-davis.com wrote: On the flip side, if we don't provide review to WIP patches during the 3rd commitfest, how do we expect to get anything close to committable on the 1st commitfest of the

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-09 Thread Jeff Davis
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 15:10 -0500, Chris Browne wrote: It's more than a bit sad... The RangeType change has the massive merit of enabling some substantial development changes, where we can get rid of whole classes of comparison clauses, and hopefully whole classes of range errors. That was

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-09 Thread Chris Browne
pg...@j-davis.com (Jeff Davis) writes: On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 15:10 -0500, Chris Browne wrote: It's more than a bit sad... The RangeType change has the massive merit of enabling some substantial development changes, where we can get rid of whole classes of comparison clauses, and hopefully

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Stephen Frost
* Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote: - Range Types. This is a large patch which was submitted for the first time to the last CommitFest of the cycle, and the first version that had no open TODO items was posted yesterday, three-quarters of the way through that last CommitFest. Some

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Hitoshi Harada
2011/2/8 Steve Singer ssinger...@sympatico.ca: On 11-02-07 10:37 PM, Robert Haas wrote: - The PL/python extravaganza.  I'm not really clear where we stand with this.  There are a lot of patches here. Some of the patches have been committed a few others are ready (or almost ready) for a

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Jan Urbański
On 08/02/11 15:44, Hitoshi Harada wrote: 2011/2/8 Steve Singer ssinger...@sympatico.ca: On 11-02-07 10:37 PM, Robert Haas wrote: - The PL/python extravaganza. I'm not really clear where we stand with this. There are a lot of patches here. Some of the patches have been committed a few

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Chris Browne
sfr...@snowman.net (Stephen Frost) writes: * Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote: - Range Types. This is a large patch which was submitted for the first time to the last CommitFest of the cycle, and the first version that had no open TODO items was posted yesterday, three-quarters of

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Steve Singer
On 11-02-08 10:07 AM, Jan Urbański wrote: * custom SPI exceptions - I'd really like this one to go in, because it allows writing UPSERT-kind functions in PL/Python very easily, and it's just a handful of lines of code I will try to do a review of this one (probably tomorrow night) since

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Chris Browne cbbro...@acm.org wrote: sfr...@snowman.net (Stephen Frost) writes: * Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote: - Range Types.  This is a large patch which was submitted for the first time to the last CommitFest of the cycle, and the first version

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread David Fetter
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 10:37:06PM -0500, Robert Haas wrote: On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Chris Browne cbbro...@acm.org wrote: It sure looks to me like there are going to be a bunch of items that, based on the recognized policies, need to get deferred to 9.2, and the prospects for Sync

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On tis, 2011-02-08 at 00:16 -0500, Steve Singer wrote: On 11-02-07 10:37 PM, Robert Haas wrote: - The PL/python extravaganza. I'm not really clear where we stand with this. There are a lot of patches here. Some of the patches have been committed a few others are ready (or almost

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Jeff Davis
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 22:37 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: - Range Types. This is a large patch which was submitted for the first time to the last CommitFest of the cycle, and the first version that had no open TODO items was posted yesterday, three-quarters of the way through that last

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 1:02 PM, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote: Given how things worked, i.e. that people were not clear that 9.1 development had actually started, etc., I am again proposing that we have one more CF starting March 15 to get this all cleaned up.  Yes, I know that wasn't

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Jeff Davis
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 06:57 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: * Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote: - Range Types. This is a large patch which was submitted for the first time to the last CommitFest of the cycle, and the first version that had no open TODO items was posted yesterday,

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Stephen Frost
* Jeff Davis (pg...@j-davis.com) wrote: I appreciate the sentiment, but in addition to some cleanup, any patch like this at least requires some discussion. It's a language change we'll be supporting for a long time. My feeling was that we have had at least some of that discussion this past

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread David Fetter
On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 02:04:04PM -0500, Robert Haas wrote: On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 1:02 PM, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote: Given how things worked, i.e. that people were not clear that 9.1 development had actually started, etc., I am again proposing that we have one more CF starting

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Jeff Davis
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 11:56 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: It's a 5400 line patch that wasn't completed until the middle of the current CommitFest. Nobody has ever submitted a major feature patch of that size that got done in a single CommitFest, to my recollection, or even half that size. My

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Jeff Davis pg...@j-davis.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 22:37 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: - Range Types.  This is a large patch which was submitted for the first time to the last CommitFest of the cycle, and the first version that had no open TODO items was

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:13 PM, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote: I agree that we have some problems in that area - particularly with writeable CTEs - but prolonging the schedule isn't going to fix that problem. What is? I think the best solution would probably be to find corporate

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Chris Browne
pg...@j-davis.com (Jeff Davis) writes: On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 06:57 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: * Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote: - Range Types. This is a large patch which was submitted for the first time to the last CommitFest of the cycle, and the first version that had no

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Josh Berkus
This discussion reveals that it's time to start making some discussions about what can be accomplished for 9.1 and what must be postponed to 9.2. The big ones I think we should postpone are: First off, I think that this is a little premature. As others have pointed out, the unusual schedule

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Jeff Davis
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 14:25 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: The patch is a million little decisions: names, catalog structure, interface, representation, general usability, grammar, functionality, etc. Without some checkpoint, the chances that everyone agrees with all of these decisions at the

[HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-07 Thread Robert Haas
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Chris Browne cbbro...@acm.org wrote: It sure looks to me like there are going to be a bunch of items that, based on the recognized policies, need to get deferred to 9.2, and the prospects for Sync Rep getting into 9.1 don't look notably good to me. It's

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-07 Thread Steve Singer
On 11-02-07 10:37 PM, Robert Haas wrote: - The PL/python extravaganza. I'm not really clear where we stand with this. There are a lot of patches here. Some of the patches have been committed a few others are ready (or almost ready) for a committer. The table function one is the only