Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased company involvement

2005-05-03 Thread Dave Held
-Original Message- From: Andrew Dunstan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Dave Held; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased company involvement

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Josh Berkus
Dave,  The group has moderators, but they exist only to moderate discussion on the mailing lists.  I'm not saying that it is bad that Postgres is not democratic.  Postgres is a totally different kind of beast than Boost, and probably benefits from having a few people ultimately decide its

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Held
-Original Message- From: Josh Berkus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:21 PM To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Marc G. Fournier; PostgreSQL advocacy; Dave Held; PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased company

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Josh Berkus
Bruce, (P.S. on a complete tangent, call a spade a spade is actually a racist expression originating in the reconstruction-era South.   spade does You must be from California.  :-) Well, yes. Actually, from San Francisco, which is even worse.And I just spent the weekend in Orange

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus josh@agliodbs.com writes: As you've already observed, if Tom doesn't like something it's very unlikely to get through. I lose my share of arguments --- in fact, in the twenty minutes since your posting I already notice Bruce committing a patch I had objected to ;-). Our process is

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Josh Berkus
Dave, Well, I never said that core runs around saving the world. I mostly made the point that core developers have special influence, Yep. Absolutely. I wanted to point out to you that core isn't the only group within PostgreSQL that has special influence. Which is also something that

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Robert Treat
On Monday 02 May 2005 14:49, Josh Berkus wrote: Bruce, (P.S. on a complete tangent, call a spade a spade is actually a racist expression originating in the reconstruction-era South.   spade does You must be from California.  :-) Well, yes. Actually, from San Francisco, which is

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Held
-Original Message- From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:33 PM To: Dave Held Cc: PostgreSQL advocacy; PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased company involvement [...] Here is a new FAQ

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Held
-Original Message- From: Tom Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:50 PM To: josh@agliodbs.com Cc: Bruce Momjian; Marc G. Fournier; PostgreSQL advocacy; Dave Held; PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Robert Treat
On Monday 02 May 2005 17:32, Dave Held wrote: -Original Message- From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:33 PM To: Dave Held Cc: PostgreSQL advocacy; PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Robert Treat said: * Engage the community by participating in discussions and patch reviews - your credibility as a contributor depends on your willingness to contribute to the community in non-coding ways as well Actually I think Bruces blurb is good for the general FAQ, and