Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well, I didn't use tablespaces here so the pg_tablespaces directory is
> empty, so I can't think of what the tablespace is.
You look in the pg_tablespace catalog for the row with that OID.
> Also, are we calling it pg_tablespaces (plural) rather than
>
Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> I should think that the table-level display ought to show both the
> >> relfilenode and tablespace OIDs for each table.
>
> > For objects in the default tablespace, they don't show a tablespace oid,
> > right? Wh
OK, I have created the following diff to document the pgevent
installation instructions. However, you didn't send me a Makefile for
creating the DLL, and I am not sure how to do that. Would you send me a
`Makefile for src/bin/pgevent? Thanks.
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Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> I should think that the table-level display ought to show both the
>> relfilenode and tablespace OIDs for each table.
> For objects in the default tablespace, they don't show a tablespace oid,
> right? Where do we put it? A column th
Christopher Kings-Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What about people upgrading from 7.4 databases that used database locations?
They'll get a nice warning:
regression=# create database foo location 'bar';
WARNING: LOCATION is not supported anymore
HINT: Consider using tablespaces instead.
CR
Patch applied. Thanks. I updated the comments at the top of win32.mak
too to document this new option.
I also made some changes so our Win32 native port can use threads too.
I need to modify the configure tests but for now the attached applied
patch will set up the groundwork for it. Mingw do
Are we ripping out our initlocation code at the same time?
Not done yet, but it's dead and should be removed as soon as a
decent respect for the deceased permits ;-)
You want me to do the honors?
What about people upgrading from 7.4 databases that used database locations?
Chris
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Were are we on this?
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Andreas Pflug wrote:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>
> >
> >This has got portability issues (fopen("ab"))
> >
> My doc says b is ignored on ansi systems, and recommends using it. Do
> you have other experience
Magnus, where are we on this refactoring process.
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Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >> * Created function write_stderr(const char *fmt, ...), used
> >before elog
> >> can be used. This function will write to stderr on unix and o
Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> How useful will oid2name be if it doesn't understand about tablespaces?
> >> I dunno how it ought to be changed, but surely it needs some thought.
>
> > I assume we just need to add a tablespace display when run w
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> How useful will oid2name be if it doesn't understand about tablespaces?
>> I dunno how it ought to be changed, but surely it needs some thought.
> I assume we just need to add a tablespace display when run with no args,
> and a -s opti
Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> Somebody's got to fix oid2name and dbsize though. Bruce, you want
> >> to catch those?
>
> > Uh, how do they have to be fixed? Isn't the relfilenode unchanged? Do
> > we just need to add tablespace lookups?
>
Andreas Pflug wrote:
> >>And for win user acceptance, a command line tool won't be
> >>sufficient either.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >This does not deserve a response.
> >
> >
>
> Well, that's not quite appropriate. A 'command line is enough for server
> maintenance' attitude won't attract win people
Andreas Pflug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> As for the authentication-is-expensive issue, what of it? You *should*
>> have to authenticate yourself in order to look inside another person's
>> database. The sort of cross-database inspection being proposed here
>> would be a big
Tom Lane wrote:
Andreas Pflug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
IMHO checking objects in a tablespace is a routine administrative task,
so it should be supported natively by the server without need of
contribs.
I strongly disagree. Dropping a tablespace is not a routine activity,
Dropping c
Tom Lane wrote:
> Gavin Sherry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >> * Allow reporting of which objects are in which tablespaces
This would have to be an external tool that connects to each database.
>
> > Do we need an information_schema.tablespaces view
Barry Lind wrote:
The other thing that I have been meaning to say in this thread is that I
don't like using COMMIT to mean subtransaction commit (vs. introducing a
new command for it) because of the following situation.
Lets say that I have a java method that takes a jdbc connection and this
c
Andreas Pflug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> IMHO checking objects in a tablespace is a routine administrative task,
> so it should be supported natively by the server without need of
> contribs.
I strongly disagree. Dropping a tablespace is not a routine activity,
and we don't have to have subm
Gavin Sherry wrote:
I would debate that.
Firstly, tablespaces aren't supported on windows yet.
Just a matter of time. And I'm talking of win32 workstations connecting
to *ix servers too.
Secondly, I'd think
that Unix users would be fine with a command line tool, especially one
that can connect to
Barry Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I like the functionality of nested transactions, I just think that there
> needs to be different commands other than BEGIN/COMMIT to work with
> them. So that there is no possiblity for misunderstanding what COMMIT
> really means.
There's something to b
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Andreas Pflug wrote:
[snip]
> >I don't think we should try and show all objects for a tablespace in
> >information_schema.
> >
> Agreed, information_schema is database specific. I was thinking about a
> pg_tablespace_contents(..) function anyway.
>
> >Being able to list all o
Gavin Sherry wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Andreas Pflug wrote:
Gavin Sherry wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:
[snip]
TODO. You sound like a man who's expecting a
several-generations-polished facility when we only just committed
the first version today. I do not feel
Gavin Sherry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>> * Allow reporting of which objects are in which tablespaces
> Do we need an information_schema.tablespaces view as well as an update to
> information_schema.{tables|indexes|...} ?
That would depend on your the
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Andreas Pflug wrote:
> Gavin Sherry wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> >[snip]
> >
> >
> >
> >>>TODO. You sound like a man who's expecting a
> >>>several-generations-polished facility when we only just committed
> >>>the first version today. I do not
The other thing that I have been meaning to say in this thread is that I
don't like using COMMIT to mean subtransaction commit (vs. introducing a
new command for it) because of the following situation.
Lets say that I have a java method that takes a jdbc connection and this
code starts a trans
Gavin Sherry wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:
[snip]
TODO. You sound like a man who's expecting a
several-generations-polished facility when we only just committed
the first version today. I do not feel a need to have any of these
features in 7.5 ...
I just need to know
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:
[snip]
> > TODO. You sound like a man who's expecting a
> > several-generations-polished facility when we only just committed
> > the first version today. I do not feel a need to have any of these
> > features in 7.5 ...
>
> I just need to know what to
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >>> Are we ripping out our initlocation code at the same time?
> >>
> >> Not done yet, but it's dead and should be removed as soon as a
> >> decent respect for the deceased permits ;-)
>
> > You
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> Somebody's got to fix oid2name and dbsize though. Bruce, you want
>> to catch those?
> Uh, how do they have to be fixed? Isn't the relfilenode unchanged? Do
> we just need to add tablespace lookups?
How useful will oid2name be if i
Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >>> Are we ripping out our initlocation code at the same time?
> >>
> >> Not done yet, but it's dead and should be removed as soon as a
> >> decent respect for the deceased permits ;-)
>
> > You want me to do the ho
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>>> Are we ripping out our initlocation code at the same time?
>>
>> Not done yet, but it's dead and should be removed as soon as a
>> decent respect for the deceased permits ;-)
> You want me to do the honors?
Nah, I'll get it. I want
Tom Lane wrote:
> > Are we ripping out our initlocation code at the same time?
>
> Not done yet, but it's dead and should be removed as soon as a
> decent respect for the deceased permits ;-)
You want me to do the honors?
--
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I have a few other questions:
>
> > What is the procedure for moving tablespace directories?
>
> There is none.
>
> > However, pg_tablespace still has the old location.
>
> Yup. The *only* thing that pg_tablespace.spclocation is u
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Did I make a mistake by promoting subtransactions rather than
> savepoints?
No. We can implement savepoints on top of subtransactions, but not
vice versa. AFAICS the savepoint syntax is just a shorthand for
a constrained form of subtransaction --- esse
Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't think we should explicitly forbid it. I think it should be
> forbidden to close the outermost transaction inside a function (else the
> function would not be able to terminate correctly), but for levels
> before that one it'd be OK.
More specif
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > OK, I have reviewed the patch. I think Tom is doing the same, but I
> > want to report the things I found.
>
> I just came up for air after about two solid days of working on this
> patch ... had not seen your me
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a few other questions:
> What is the procedure for moving tablespace directories?
There is none.
> However, pg_tablespace still has the old location.
Yup. The *only* thing that pg_tablespace.spclocation is used for is
for pg_dumpall to dump ap
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