Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-12 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian wrote: I would like other developers to add/modify the todo list. The master is the text file, and I generate the HTML so the web team can pull the HTML for our web site. If you modify just the text file, I will see the commit and update the HTML, and if you want my scripts, I

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-12 Thread Simon Riggs
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 23:54 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: If I am wrong, please someone tell me why I am wrong. Don't way we would like to have X too as well as what we already have, but not supply any more manpower. You might as well say you want to live forever, but not give any way of

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-12 Thread Bruce Momjian
Peter Eisentraut wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: I would like other developers to add/modify the todo list. The master is the text file, and I generate the HTML so the web team can pull the HTML for our web site. If you modify just the text file, I will see the commit and update the HTML,

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Neil Conway
On Sat, 2005-12-10 at 21:16 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: Not sure what else can be done to improve this process. I think the barrier to adding new TODO entries or modifying existing ones is too high. While it's great that Bruce maintains the list, the inevitable result is that the list tends to

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian wrote: Well, the item was added at the request of Peter Eisentraut and Martijn van Oosterhout and took place on hackers. The TODO addition was posted too: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2005-12/msg00333.php The discussion did not mention anything about

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Tom Lane
Neil Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 2005-12-10 at 21:16 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: Not sure what else can be done to improve this process. Why is the TODO list keep in the source code repository, anyway? One alternative would be to move it to a wiki. That seems unlikely to improve

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Neil Conway
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 09:39 +0800, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Call me crazy - but isn't this what you usually use a bug tracker for? Well, some people do. I don't really see the point, though. What advantages would it have? -Neil ---(end of

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Bruce Momjian
Neil Conway wrote: I agree, but I think this is another symptom of having only one person maintain the list. It is a non-trivial amount of work to understand all the arguments in a complex -hackers thread and distill that into a few accurate sentences that summarize the consensus (if there

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joshua D. Drake wrote: Why is the TODO list keep in the source code repository, anyway? One alternative would be to move it to a wiki. That would allow other people to contribute to maintaining the list, with less procedural overhead. The GCC folks do this, for example: example:

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Joshua D. Drake
It would also be useful to see who has signed on as the lead or to work on a particular subproject in case other developers would like to either lead or help a lead on the project. I would request a vote interface but I think we would get to many mysqlisms ;) You are dreaming on this one.

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joshua D. Drake wrote: It would also be useful to see who has signed on as the lead or to work on a particular subproject in case other developers would like to either lead or help a lead on the project. I would request a vote interface but I think we would get to many mysqlisms ;)

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Michael Paesold
Joshua D. Drake wrote: I guess I just don't understand why so many other projects larger then us and much smaller then us can do it, but we can't. Perhaps it is a question of project culture. As I see PostgreSQL development, there is no such thing as a roadmap or an agreed plan, what the

[PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-10 Thread Volkan YAZICI
I've written a small patch for following TODO item: «Add GUC variable to run a command on database panic or smart/fast/immediate shutdown.» It adds two GUC variables as: enable_atexit_script_file atexit_script_file postmaster will run related script file with passing shutdown type (like

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-10 Thread Tom Lane
Volkan YAZICI [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've written a small patch for following TODO item: «Add GUC variable to run a command on database panic or smart/fast/immediate shutdown.» I'm not sure why this is in TODO; it's a stupid if not outright dangerous idea. Quite aside from any security

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-10 Thread Tom Lane
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is what bothers me about having such an informal TODO list. There is a danger that people will work in items only to have them shot down, which is a great way to turn off developers. And there is also a danger that other people will think that the

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-10 Thread Jaime Casanova
On 12/10/05, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is what bothers me about having such an informal TODO list. There is a danger that people will work in items only to have them shot down, which is a great way to turn off developers. And there is

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is what bothers me about having such an informal TODO list. There is a danger that people will work in items only to have them shot down, which is a great way to turn off developers. And there is also a danger that other people

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Jaime Casanova wrote: On 12/10/05, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is what bothers me about having such an informal TODO list. There is a danger that people will work in items only to have them shot down, which is a great way to turn