Re: [SQL] Database design - AGAIN

2003-06-25 Thread Josh Berkus
Rudi, > I'll be using smaller tables with appropriate join tables and PHP. > Just for interests sake I'll be using Dia to plan the schema. > I prefer to use the UML drawing tools instead of the ER ones. I still use a simple flowcharting program to plan my databases. Never saw the value in UML

Re: [SQL] Database design - AGAIN

2003-06-24 Thread Michael A Nachbaur
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 03:15 pm, Rudi Starcevic wrote: > I'll be using smaller tables with appropriate join tables and PHP. > Just for interests sake I'll be using Dia to plan the schema. > I prefer to use the UML drawing tools instead of the ER ones. Off topic, but if you're using KDE you might

Re: [SQL] Database design - AGAIN

2003-06-24 Thread Rudi Starcevic
Josh, Jonathan .. Thanks for your replies. You mail was exactly what I was hoping for - your best practise opinion. I do have a grasp of the theory involved with SQL but your input on those 'other' constraints like time, language, longevity etc was just what I was interested in. I'll be using sm

Re: [SQL] Database design - AGAIN

2003-06-24 Thread Jonathan Gardner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 23 June 2003 22:19, Rudi Starcevic wrote: > I"m not sure whether to have on larger table or 2 smaller one with a > join table. Theory says you are better off with the join tables. Practical reality agrees with this. It takes a bit more work

Re: [SQL] Database design - AGAIN

2003-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
Rudi, > For this task, a searchable directory, which design would be better. > In know the second is more flexible as new features can be added but I > have very limited time and > I think the one larger table design would be quicker to build. Sounds like you already have a clear grasp of the sit

[SQL] Database design - AGAIN

2003-06-23 Thread Rudi Starcevic
Hi, Sorry - I make some typo's - here is the question again. I have a Spread Sheet which I need to make a searchable directory out of. I'm in two minds on a couple things so I thought I'd ask. I"m not sure whether to have on larger table or 2 smaller one with a join table. This is a trim

[SQL] Database Design

2003-06-23 Thread Rudi Starcevic
Hi, I have a Spread Sheet which I need to make a searchable directory out of. I'm in two minds on a couple things so I thought I'd ask. I"m not sure whether to have on larger table or 2 smaller one with a join table. This is a trimmed down version of the data. The directory is of Camping grounds/

Re: [GENERAL] [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-11-05 Thread Robert Treat
Well, actually ERWin does work with PostgreSQL via ODBC. The version I tried was I think the last release of the 3.x series, and I had enough trouble with it to decide against using it. I am told the 4.x series improved things, though if your already familiar with erwin you probably could get by.

Re: [GENERAL] [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-11-05 Thread Patrick Bakker
Title: RE: [GENERAL] [SQL] Database Design tool I had gASQL working once but that was awhile ago. gASQL has now been renamed as Mergeant and is being developed in conjunction with the gnome-db libraries as far as I know. I don't think there has been a stable release of it yet, although

Re: [GENERAL] [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-11-05 Thread tony
On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 15:00, Thomas Good wrote: > Is there a page at PostgreSQL.org where all these links are listed? > I've been saving each bit of mail that goes by on this thread...but > a page on Pg would be very nice. ;-) you mean like techdocs.postgresql.org ??? The page that is mentionn

Re: [GENERAL] [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-11-05 Thread Kaare Rasmussen
> Thanks. This gives me a few more tools to look at. Boy, do we have an > answer for the folks who complain "there are no GUI tools for Postgres". While there are a number of GUI tools for PostgreSQL, there's still no real database design tool like ErWin or so. -- Kaare Rasmussen

Re: [GENERAL] [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-11-05 Thread Josh Berkus
Robert, > There are actually two sections on the techdocs site now relating to > this at http://techdocs.postgresql.org/oresources.php > look under the sections ERD Tools and Database Design > > Not that I'm not looking forward to your article Josh ;-) Thanks. This gives me a few more tools to

Re: [GENERAL] [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-11-05 Thread Robert Treat
There are actually two sections on the techdocs site now relating to this at http://techdocs.postgresql.org/oresources.php look under the sections ERD Tools and Database Design Not that I'm not looking forward to your article Josh ;-) Robert Treat On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 11:33, Josh Berkus wrote:

Re: [GENERAL] [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-11-05 Thread Josh Berkus
Thomas, > > DBVisualizer is pretty good. > > Is there a page at PostgreSQL.org where all these links are listed? > I've been saving each bit of mail that goes by on this thread...but > a page on Pg would be very nice. ;-) I was planning on writing an article; so far, I have a list of about 14 i

Re: [GENERAL] [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-11-05 Thread Thomas Good
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Michael Ansley (UK) wrote: > DBVisualizer is pretty good. Is there a page at PostgreSQL.org where all these links are listed? I've been saving each bit of mail that goes by on this thread...but a page on Pg would be very nice. ;-) Cheers,

Re: [GENERAL] [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-11-05 Thread Michael Ansley (UK)
Title: RE: [GENERAL] [SQL] Database Design tool   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 DBVisualizer is pretty good. >> -Original Message- >> From: Johannes Lochmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: 30 October 2002 14:36 >> To: [EMAIL PROT

Re: [GENERAL] [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-11-04 Thread Larry Rosenman
g]On Behalf Of Dan Hrabarchuk > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:31 AM > > To: Johannes Lochmann > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [GENERAL] [SQL] Database Design tool > > > > > > gASQL is a gnome-db client that looks like it ha

Re: [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-11-01 Thread Reinoud van Leeuwen
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:35:23 + (UTC), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johannes Lochmann) wrote: >> Can anybody take me reference on Database design tool with PostgreSQL >> support. You can use PowerDesigner from Sybase. Windows only. A fully functional trial version (45 days) is downloadable at www.sybas

Re: [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-10-30 Thread Josh Berkus
Wei, > Do you have any idea of what the software is called? I could only find > the redhat database ISO for download. Announced on PGSQL-ANNOUNCE a couple of weeks ago: (if you're not subscribed to PGSQL-ANNOUNCE, you should be) === The Red Hat

Re: [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-10-30 Thread Wei Weng
Josh: Do you have any idea of what the software is called? I could only find the redhat database ISO for download. Thanks On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 18:43, Josh Berkus wrote: > Wei, > > > My colleague installed a redhat database 2(which is based on postgresql) > > onto his redhat 7.3 machine and it

Re: [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-10-30 Thread Josh Berkus
Wei, > My colleague installed a redhat database 2(which is based on postgresql) > onto his redhat 7.3 machine and it came with a very nice java query > analyzer tool. It is sort of like the query analyzer in MS SQL Server > with the graphical output of the execution plan, quite intuitive. > > I w

Re: [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-10-30 Thread Wei Weng
My colleague installed a redhat database 2(which is based on postgresql) onto his redhat 7.3 machine and it came with a very nice java query analyzer tool. It is sort of like the query analyzer in MS SQL Server with the graphical output of the execution plan, quite intuitive. I wonder if I can fin

Re: [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-10-30 Thread Kevin Old
Dan, I use Xpga Java Postgresql client and it is awesome. It's at http://www.kazak.ws/xpg/ Kevin On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 10:30, Dan Hrabarchuk wrote: > gASQL is a gnome-db client that looks like it has a lot of promise. The > only problem is I've never been able to get the application to run

Re: [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-10-30 Thread Dan Hrabarchuk
gASQL is a gnome-db client that looks like it has a lot of promise. The only problem is I've never been able to get the application to run properly. I'm using RedHat 8.0 on my desktop. The last official version does not install properly. If I grab a CVS copy, I go through dependency hell. Has anyon

Re: [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-10-30 Thread Johannes Lochmann
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 07:45, Viacheslav N Tararin wrote: Hi, (which list should this go to? I guess it is OT on both...) > Can anybody take me reference on Database design tool with PostgreSQL > support. Dia and dia2sql (or something similar...) Google knows more :-) HTH Johannes Lochmann

Re: [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-10-30 Thread Tomasz Myrta
Uz.ytkownik Viacheslav N Tararin napisa?: Hi. Can anybody take me reference on Database design tool with PostgreSQL support. pgadmin.postgresql.org Tomasz Myrta ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [SQL] Database Design tool

2002-10-30 Thread Bhuvan A
> Can anybody take me reference on Database design tool with PostgreSQL > support. > visit, http://sourceforge.net/projects/phppgadmin/ regards, bhuvaneswaran ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives

[SQL] Database Design tool

2002-10-29 Thread Viacheslav N Tararin
Hi. Can anybody take me reference on Database design tool with PostgreSQL support. thanks. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

RE: [SQL] Database Design Question

2001-07-27 Thread Jimmie Fulton
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SQL] Database Design Question OK... Fair Enough... Good Points indeed y'all. Well... What about the problem of users trying to Query the Database?? You know... like when using Crystal Reports or something?. SELECT * from Histor

RE: [SQL] Database Design Question

2001-07-27 Thread Jimmie Fulton
- From: Gonzo Rock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 2:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SQL] Database Design Question A Question for those of you who consider yourself crack Database Designers. I am currently moving a large database(100+Tables) into pgSQL... with the in

[SQL] Database Design Question

2001-07-27 Thread Gonzo Rock
A Question for those of you who consider yourself crack Database Designers. I am currently moving a large database(100+Tables) into pgSQL... with the intention of deploying against 'any' SQL database in the future. The development side will be rigorously using Standard SQL constructs with no un

RE: [GENERAL] Re: [SQL] database design and diagraming book recommendations..

2000-08-21 Thread Craig L. Ching
> "Francisco Hernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > anyone know of a good book or books on database modeling? > > like for entity relationship diagrams and such.. > > > To get a good life, go with Chris Date's rather difficult two > volume set. > What are the names of these two books? I just

Re: [SQL] database design and diagraming book recommendations..

2000-08-20 Thread David Lloyd-Jones
"Francisco Hernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > anyone know of a good book or books on database modeling? > like for entity relationship diagrams and such.. To get a good life, go with Chris Date's rather difficult two volume set. -dlj.

[SQL] database design and diagraming book recommendations..

2000-08-18 Thread Francisco Hernandez
anyone know of a good book or books on database modeling? like for entity relationship diagrams and such.. thanks!