Re: [Pharo-dev] Recommendation for password encryption?

2013-07-15 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 15.07.2013 um 22:42 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck : > Ahh another question, sorry. With this cipher a "salt" would make almost no > sense since I already need a key? > or it make sense to put a "salt" together with the string to ecnrypt? > That is up to you. That is what I was trying to exp

Re: [Pharo-dev] Job: from Exceptions to Announcements?

2013-07-15 Thread Martin Dias
Ok, I'm interested since I'm working in an experimental extension. In 3.0, JobStartNotification is the only used exception. The other one, JobProgress, is only referenced from tests. I put a halt in #handleJobProgress: to check and it didn't stop. I would like to discuss about paralel jobs too.

Re: [Pharo-dev] OpenDBX problem with simultaneus connections

2013-07-15 Thread Facundo Vozzi
Mariano, It works fine now. Thanks On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianop...@gmail.com> wrote: > No, GlorpOpenDBXDriver-MarianoMartinezPeck.16 in ' > http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/DBXTalk/Glorp/main' > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: > >> M

Re: [Pharo-dev] Recommendation for password encryption?

2013-07-15 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Ahh another question, sorry. With this cipher a "salt" would make almost no sense since I already need a key? or it make sense to put a "salt" together with the string to ecnrypt? Thanks On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianop...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Blowfish is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Recommendation for password encryption?

2013-07-15 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
> Blowfish is a 8 byte block cipher so for shorter strings I'll need to pad > the byte array, and for longer strings I'll need to make it use cipher > block > chaining: > ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_cipher_modes_of_operation#Cipher-block_chaining_.28CBC.29 > ) > > Ok, I imagined somethi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Job: from Exceptions to Announcements?

2013-07-15 Thread Camillo Bruni
Hi, this actually emerged from a discussion with Sean, because he didn't like exceptions based notifications :). But all in all there is no big change needed. I think the UI will work anyway passively, there should be a refresh loop that checks 15-times per second the status of the active jobs an

[Pharo-dev] [DOC] Building and deploying

2013-07-15 Thread Paul Davidowitz
Very nice, but perhaps in a future tutorial the mode of presentation can be TDD...

Re: [Pharo-dev] Recommendation for password encryption?

2013-07-15 Thread Paul DeBruicker
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Paul DeBruicker < > pdebruic@ > > wrote: > >> >> Hi Mariano, >> >> You shouldn't use it. Its broken. I didn't realize until just now. But >> I >> also haven't been using it. >> >> > ohh what a pity :( > I was planning to use it! >

[Pharo-dev] Job: from Exceptions to Announcements?

2013-07-15 Thread Martin Dias
Hi, I am looking into SystemProgressMorph and I found this flag in several methods: self flag: 'When we go from Exceptions to announcements, delete this and use show:from:to:during:'. I'd like to know more. I see that Jobs are implemented with both exceptions and announcements... what is the ide

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

2013-07-15 Thread Attila Magyar
This is really nice. I hope it will reach people who develop webapps in ruby/php/java or whatever. On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 15 Jul 2013, at 18:41, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > I should revive it. > > But it is still running live ;-) > > http://

Re: [Pharo-dev] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

2013-07-15 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 15 Jul 2013, at 18:41, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > I should revive it. But it is still running live ;-) http://caretaker.wolf359.be:8080/reddit Sven

Re: [Pharo-dev] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

2013-07-15 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Igor, On 15 Jul 2013, at 17:48, Igor Stasenko wrote: > since you gave listing at the end of page, > i wonder, how much PHP (yes! :) code it would take to implement same app? :) > > of course , PHP is not really fair comparison, since it doesn't > implements full HTTP stack, > nor it deals with

Re: [Pharo-dev] My Del key not works anymore

2013-07-15 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 15 July 2013 18:03, Benjamin wrote: > The solution for you is to fix the VM :) > i need more info.. who, did what and where.. > Ben > > On Jul 15, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > On 15 July 2013 17:50, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > > Igor wrote: > > can i have it back, > > > I haven'

Re: [Pharo-dev] My Del key not works anymore

2013-07-15 Thread Benjamin
The solution for you is to fix the VM :) Ben On Jul 15, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 15 July 2013 17:50, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >> Igor wrote: >>> can i have it back, >> >> I haven't had a Del key on my Macs since 1990 or so. >> Fn Backspace to delete (US Intl) works for me.

Re: [Pharo-dev] My Del key not works anymore

2013-07-15 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 15 July 2013 17:50, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > Igor wrote: >>can i have it back, > > I haven't had a Del key on my Macs since 1990 or so. > Fn Backspace to delete (US Intl) works for me. > What keyboard layout do you use? i using external USB keyboard and it has usual 101 key layout with gray

Re: [Pharo-dev] My Del key not works anymore

2013-07-15 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Igor wrote: >can i have it back, I haven't had a Del key on my Macs since 1990 or so. Fn Backspace to delete (US Intl) works for me. What keyboard layout do you use? Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

2013-07-15 Thread Igor Stasenko
since you gave listing at the end of page, i wonder, how much PHP (yes! :) code it would take to implement same app? :) of course , PHP is not really fair comparison, since it doesn't implements full HTTP stack, nor it deals with HTTP requests directly as Zinc does, and runs on top of web server w

[Pharo-dev] My Del key not works anymore

2013-07-15 Thread Igor Stasenko
i don't know who or what changed in mac vms, but now when i press Del key, it produces '?' instead of deleting characters.. which is highly annoying because i get used to it over all my life. can i have it back, please? -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

2013-07-15 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 15 Jul 2013, at 13:15, Camillo Bruni wrote: > very nice! Thanks, someone already put it on http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1ic883/building_and_deploying_your_first_web_app_with/ but needs comments/votes ;-) > On 2013-07-15, at 13:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> Hi, >> >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

2013-07-15 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 15 Jul 2013, at 14:18, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > Nice work, Sven! > > "You can optionally use an SSH key pair to log in, just skip this option if > you are uncomfortable with this" > > Do you want to explain that logging in as root is not a good idea? Something > like: > > It is not nee

Re: [Pharo-dev] Recommendation for password encryption?

2013-07-15 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 15 Jul 2013, at 16:29, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Am 12.07.2013 um 20:11 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck : > >> >>> >>> This problem is often solved using filesystem permissions. Often programs >>> are started as root and so they can read files where root is the only one >>> having read per

Re: [Pharo-dev] Recommendation for password encryption?

2013-07-15 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 12.07.2013 um 20:11 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck : > >> >> >> This problem is often solved using filesystem permissions. Often programs >> are started as root and so they can read files where root is the only one >> having read permisson. After doing priviledged stuff the program drops

Re: [Pharo-dev] Ubuntu apt install

2013-07-15 Thread Damien Cassou
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > add-apt-repository is an unknown command in minimal Ubuntu installs (like on > servers) and thanks for the report. I've updated http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/ubuntu -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

Re: [Pharo-dev] Recommendation for password encryption?

2013-07-15 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > > Hi Mariano, > > You shouldn't use it. Its broken. I didn't realize until just now. But I > also haven't been using it. > > ohh what a pity :( I was planning to use it! > > To encrypt the db password do > > enc:=Blowfish encryptString

Re: [Pharo-dev] Ubuntu apt install

2013-07-15 Thread Damien Cassou
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > add-apt-repository is an unknown command in minimal Ubuntu installs (like on > servers) in fact, you just have to add 1 line in /etc/apt/sources.list or add a new file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.se

[Pharo-dev] Ubuntu apt install

2013-07-15 Thread Stephan Eggermont
add-apt-repository is an unknown command in minimal Ubuntu installs (like on servers) On 12.04, running sudo apt-get install python-software-properties helped. In 12.10 I'm told to use sudo apt-get install software-properties-common http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2011/08/31/ubuntu-add

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Wiki page on Fogbugz

2013-07-15 Thread Benjamin
It was a hack made during an insomnia session :) Ben On Jul 15, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > yes, the video were the UI changes while you change the code. You > should be looking at the code you changed to make that happen :-) > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Wiki page on Fogbugz

2013-07-15 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Stef wrote: >May be Stefan Eggermont has one. you should ask him. I'm not aware of another video with Ben. Diego did not video all show us your project entries. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

2013-07-15 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Nice work, Sven! "You can optionally use an SSH key pair to log in, just skip this option if you are uncomfortable with this" Do you want to explain that logging in as root is not a good idea? Something like: It is not needed to get started, but highly recommended for production images or whe

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Wiki page on Fogbugz

2013-07-15 Thread Damien Cassou
yes, the video were the UI changes while you change the code. You should be looking at the code you changed to make that happen :-) On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > May be Stefan Eggermont has one. you should ask him. > > Stef > > On Jul 15, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Benjamin

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

2013-07-15 Thread Camillo Bruni
very nice! On 2013-07-15, at 13:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote a new tutorial, "Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo > - Understanding HTTP fundamentals through Zinc HTTP Components". > > By chronologically following the development process, you will see a

[Pharo-dev] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

2013-07-15 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi, I wrote a new tutorial, "Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo - Understanding HTTP fundamentals through Zinc HTTP Components". By chronologically following the development process, you will see a small web app growing from something trivial to the final result. Finally, we

[Pharo-dev] pharo 20 ss3? gemstone -> gemtalk

2013-07-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys should not we change the Gofer definition of ss3 to point to the new location? Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Wiki page on Fogbugz

2013-07-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
May be Stefan Eggermont has one. you should ask him. Stef On Jul 15, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Benjamin wrote: > Did I do a video? > > Ben > > On Jul 15, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Stéphane Ducasse > wrote: > >> do you have the videos of the demo you did on dynamic aspects? >> >> Stef >> On Jul 15, 201

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Wiki page on Fogbugz

2013-07-15 Thread Benjamin
Did I do a video? Ben On Jul 15, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > do you have the videos of the demo you did on dynamic aspects? > > Stef > On Jul 15, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Benjamin > wrote: > >> Hi guys :) >> >> I just created a public wiki page on Fogbugz gathering links to Spe

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-07-15 until: 2013-07-31

2013-07-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community > an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. > Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! > > ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: > > -

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Wiki page on Fogbugz

2013-07-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
do you have the videos of the demo you did on dynamic aspects? Stef On Jul 15, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Benjamin wrote: > Hi guys :) > > I just created a public wiki page on Fogbugz gathering links to Spec > Documentation > > Here is the link https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?W67 > > I hope i

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30267

2013-07-15 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-07-15, at 10:34, Camille Teruel wrote: > On 13 juil. 2013, at 14:44, Camillo Bruni wrote: > >> If you put all methods from ClassDescriptions in traits and move them on >> Class and Metaclass there is no need for ClassDescription. > > Except for "instanceVariables" and "organization" ivs

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30267

2013-07-15 Thread Sebastian Tleye
Or moving those instance variables to their subclasses (Class and Metaclass) 2013/7/15 Camille Teruel > > On 13 juil. 2013, at 14:44, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > > If you put all methods from ClassDescriptions in traits and move them on > > Class and Metaclass there is no need for ClassDescription

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30267

2013-07-15 Thread Camille Teruel
On 13 juil. 2013, at 14:44, Camillo Bruni wrote: > If you put all methods from ClassDescriptions in traits and move them on > Class and Metaclass there is no need for ClassDescription. Except for "instanceVariables" and "organization" ivs of ClassDescription. Were you thinking about stateful t

[Pharo-dev] New Wiki page on Fogbugz

2013-07-15 Thread Benjamin
Hi guys :) I just created a public wiki page on Fogbugz gathering links to Spec Documentation Here is the link https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?W67 I hope it will be useful :) Ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30267

2013-07-15 Thread Sebastian Tleye
After all my changes you will only love them :) 2013/7/13 Stéphane Ducasse > I imagine that quite well :) but my love/hate relationship with trait > always bugs me :) > > > On Jul 13, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > > If you put all methods from ClassDescriptions in traits and move

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-07-15 until: 2013-07-31

2013-07-15 Thread Damien Cassou
### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: release of PharoLauncher (http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/PharoLauncher) block chapter for Deep Into Pharo (https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/DeepIntoPharo/) + update glamour and petit parser chapters Pharo tutorial at Montpe

Re: [Pharo-dev] Can't open image file without write access

2013-07-15 Thread Damien Cassou
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > are you sure this is image file, not .changes? both are read-only. I will check how to deactivate the startup and shudown scripts as Camillo suggested. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go f

Re: [Pharo-dev] opal bug with the old debugger

2013-07-15 Thread Clément Bera
Hi, Actually I saw the bug, tried in the new debugger, it worked. So I didn't fix it because the new debugger will be integrated before the release. 2013/7/14 Andrei Vasile Chis > Hi, > > Executing '1 haba' in a workspace and then choosing create method from the > pre debug window leads to thi

Re: [Pharo-dev] opal bug with the old debugger

2013-07-15 Thread Marcus Denker
On Jul 14, 2013, at 8:22 PM, Andrei Vasile Chis wrote: > Hi, > > Executing '1 haba' in a workspace and then choosing create method from the > pre debug window leads to this exception: > UndefinedObject(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #methodOrBlockNode > > If instead I choose to debug, select t

Re: [Pharo-dev] [regression reporter]regression occurred

2013-07-15 Thread Marcus Denker
I think I should stop integrating anything until we have something that runs all tests of proposed improvements… Like this I waste my time. On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:09 AM, no-re...@ci.inria.fr wrote: > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/label=linux-stable-worker/343/ >

[Pharo-dev] [regression reporter]regression occurred

2013-07-15 Thread no-reply
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/label=win/343/ 4 regressions found. AST.Interpreter.Test.ASTInterpreterTest.testSignalHalt OpalCompiler.Tests.Misc.MethodMapTests.testMethodSourceNodeAtPC OpalCompiler.Tests.Misc.MethodMapTests.testSimpleSourceMapping Tests.C

[Pharo-dev] [regression reporter]regression occurred

2013-07-15 Thread no-reply
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/label=mac/343/ 3 regressions found. AST.Interpreter.Test.ASTInterpreterTest.testSignalHalt OpalCompiler.Tests.Misc.MethodMapTests.testMethodSourceNodeAtPC OpalCompiler.Tests.Misc.MethodMapTests.testSimpleSourceMapping

[Pharo-dev] [regression reporter]regression occurred

2013-07-15 Thread no-reply
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/label=linux-stable-worker/343/ 3 regressions found. AST.Interpreter.Test.ASTInterpreterTest.testSignalHalt OpalCompiler.Tests.Misc.MethodMapTests.testMethodSourceNodeAtPC OpalCompiler.Tests.Misc.MethodMapTests.testSimpleSourceM

[Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30271

2013-07-15 Thread Marcus Denker
30271 - 11160 add #classBuilder to nil https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11160 11153 Introduce Exception >> #signalIn: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11153 Diff information: http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/KernelTests-MarcusDenker.529.diff http://smal