Re: [Pharo-dev] Coordinates problem with Athens and Morphic while coding Hyperion

2013-11-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 30 November 2013 02:36, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > No pb, I think I know how to fix this > > feel free to commit fix to Athens SVG package. Any help is welcome. > Alexandre > > > > Le 29-11-2013 à 17:47, Stéphane Ducasse a > écrit : > > > > > >> So far you cannot import, but only export SVG

Re: [Pharo-dev] Athens-Cairo is part of Pharo?

2013-11-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 30 November 2013 08:34, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > May be igor can simply do not use it and we remove it directly. > > well, it would be easy if it just about me, but it was part of API for a while, which i deprecated not long ago (by changing to better name). > Hi all, > > There's a deprecate

Re: [Pharo-dev] Athens-Cairo is part of Pharo?

2013-11-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 30 November 2013 00:32, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: > Hi all, > > There's a deprecated method in Athens-Cairo. > method: AthensCairoSurface>>#createLinearGradient:origin:corner: > category: #paints > package: RGPackage(Athens-Cairo) > > Should i move it to Deprecated package? > > https:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Athens-Cairo is part of Pharo?

2013-11-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
May be igor can simply do not use it and we remove it directly. > Hi all, > > There's a deprecated method in Athens-Cairo. > method: AthensCairoSurface>>#createLinearGradient:origin:corner: > category: #paints > package: RGPackage(Athens-Cairo) > > Should i move it to Deprecated package? > https

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus unload...

2013-11-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Each group registers to event. Now I will try to unregister them all. > The problem is that there is a registration mechanism somewhere :) > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Similarity Matrix

2013-11-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Really nice. In fact it would be great if we can plug the comparison between the x and y cells (which can be different). Because like that we get a simple matrix based comparator similar to the one of early paper of prejinshight work. >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Suggestion about Phexample and StateSpecs(Mocketry) integration

2013-11-29 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2013/11/30 Sean P. DeNigris > Denis Kudriashov wrote > > I don't remember is it was public conclusion but we agree to try > > StateSpecs > > for Phexample. > > After I finish key features of TxText I will adapt StateSpecs to satisfy > > Camillo requirements. > > Double bump ;) I want to try Mocke

Re: [Pharo-dev] Suggestion about Phexample and StateSpecs(Mocketry) integration

2013-11-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Denis Kudriashov wrote > I don't remember is it was public conclusion but we agree to try > StateSpecs > for Phexample. > After I finish key features of TxText I will adapt StateSpecs to satisfy > Camillo requirements. Double bump ;) I want to try Mocketry, but I'm already using Phexample, so I n

Re: [Pharo-dev] Coordinates problem with Athens and Morphic while coding Hyperion

2013-11-29 Thread Alexandre Bergel
No pb, I think I know how to fix this Alexandre > Le 29-11-2013 à 17:47, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : > > >> So far you cannot import, but only export SVG in Roassal. I know Athens has >> an SVG importer, but I have faced some problems with it. > > and do not expect it to be fixed soon. Becau

[Pharo-dev] Athens-Cairo is part of Pharo?

2013-11-29 Thread Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras
Hi all, There's a deprecated method in Athens-Cairo. method: AthensCairoSurface>>#createLinearGradient:origin:corner: category: #paints package: RGPackage(Athens-Cairo) Should i move it to Deprecated package? https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11668/Move-all-deprecated-method-to-Deprecated30-packa

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stepping through with GLORP Proxies

2013-11-29 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2013/11/29 Eliot Miranda : > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Marcus Denker > wrote: >> On 29 Nov 2013, at 22:03, Eliot Miranda wrote: >> > Does the Pharo debugger use the mirror primitives yet? >> No. I think the methods are not even in the image. > I'll either prepare a change set or submit.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stepping through with GLORP Proxies

2013-11-29 Thread Frank Shearar
On 29 November 2013 21:02, Eliot Miranda wrote: > Does the Pharo debugger use the mirror primitives yet? Unless > InstructionStream and ContextPart have been updated to use objectClass: and > objectInstVarAt: et al then the debugger will be fooled by proxies. I > really need to push this code th

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus unload...

2013-11-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Nov 27, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > hi, > > I think is nothing to do with PackageTree but with the fact that now groups > are shown (and because of that created), > So, probably reseting the groups before unloading would do the trick. > > {Nautilus. PackageTreeNautilus} d

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stepping through with GLORP Proxies

2013-11-29 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 29 Nov 2013, at 22:03, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > Does the Pharo debugger use the mirror primitives yet? > > No. I think the methods are not even in the image. > > > Unless InstructionStream and ContextPart have been updated to use > o

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stepping through with GLORP Proxies

2013-11-29 Thread Marcus Denker
On 29 Nov 2013, at 22:03, Eliot Miranda wrote: > Does the Pharo debugger use the mirror primitives yet? No. I think the methods are not even in the image. > Unless InstructionStream and ContextPart have been updated to use > objectClass: and objectInstVarAt: et al then the debugger will be f

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stepping through with GLORP Proxies

2013-11-29 Thread Eliot Miranda
Does the Pharo debugger use the mirror primitives yet? Unless InstructionStream and ContextPart have been updated to use objectClass: and objectInstVarAt: et al then the debugger will be fooled by proxies. I really need to push this code through to Squeak trunk. Once I've done that (Monday? it'

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus Tree

2013-11-29 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I do not. Scoped browsing is better for me. Search beats Prem a Fe organization. Ask Google. Search is like addition for them Phil On Friday, November 29, 2013, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Sean P. DeNigris > > > wrote: > > > Sean P. DeNigris wrote > >> I noticed

Re: [Pharo-dev] Coordinates problem with Athens and Morphic while coding Hyperion

2013-11-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> So far you cannot import, but only export SVG in Roassal. I know Athens has > an SVG importer, but I have faced some problems with it. and do not expect it to be fixed soon. Because we have other priorities. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus Tree

2013-11-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Nov 29, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Sean P. DeNigris wrote >> I noticed that right now, separate packages within the same project are >> not collapsed. E.g. if I have MyProject-Core and MyProject-Platform, they >> will be siblings in the tree, instead of both under MyProject.

Re: [Pharo-dev] I'd say Pharo is fitting the bill for me. What would you love it to have?

2013-11-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
From a business perspective, I would love to have - multi windowing and better widgets set. - UI builder Stef > Check > > http://mir.aculo.us/2013/11/27/5-things-ive-learned-in-5-years-of-running-a-saas/ > > Seriously, I am interested in your feedback. > > Shoot! > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bug font windows

2013-11-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> > > Exactly, it should not be related to fonts in the Moose image given that the > fonts are in the image. > > Another thought, it could be that > newFaceFromExternalMemory:index: > fails somehow .. (maybe freetype plugin unavail?) > > I tried to reproduce the problem locally, but I canno

Re: [Pharo-dev] Coordinates problem with Athens and Morphic while coding Hyperion

2013-11-29 Thread Alexandre Bergel
So far you cannot import, but only export SVG in Roassal. I know Athens has an SVG importer, but I have faced some problems with it. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. On Nov

Re: [Pharo-dev] Coordinates problem with Athens and Morphic while coding Hyperion

2013-11-29 Thread kilon alios
Very true , now I am studying how to import , export and display svg files. Learning never stops and Roassal code is certainly helpful. On Friday, November 29, 2013, wrote: > Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >Ok I have verified and indeed its not an Athens problem. My bad. The > position of the mo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Registering for issue tracker

2013-11-29 Thread btc
Mark Bestley wrote: On 28/11/2013 16:29, b...@openinworld.com wrote: I've added some concise info on what worked for me for user registration to the issue tracker. Rather than clutter up the account list with a test-user, could someone yet to register try out the three steps... https://pharo.f

Re: [Pharo-dev] Coordinates problem with Athens and Morphic while coding Hyperion

2013-11-29 Thread btc
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Ok I have verified and indeed its not an Athens problem. My bad. The position of the morph is reported at 5@30 and the not the correct 0@0. So it looks like Morphic for some strange reason it offsets it. I knew about translateBy but I did not know about r

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus Tree

2013-11-29 Thread kilon alios
Currently I am working on Hyperion, a vector editor for Athens. Then I will work on Prometheas, on board documentation tool again with Athens. My third tool, if ever reach that far is Cyclops which will target the system browser. Now I am no fan of hierarchy trees. I find them hard to navigate and

[Pharo-dev] I'd say Pharo is fitting the bill for me. What would you love it to have?

2013-11-29 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Check http://mir.aculo.us/2013/11/27/5-things-ive-learned-in-5-years-of-running-a-saas/ Seriously, I am interested in your feedback. Shoot! Phil

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus Tree

2013-11-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
kilon alios wrote > I dont see much room for thought, this looks to me like ideal behavior. I agree in theory, but it seems that the tree is primarily about chunking information into manageable pieces. A primary difficulty here is that packages are often divided for reasons that have nothing to

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] de71ab: 30612

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[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2013-11-29 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30612 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus Tree

2013-11-29 Thread Benjamin
+1 Ben On 29 Nov 2013, at 17:25, kilon alios wrote: > I dont see much room for thought, this looks to me like ideal behavior. > > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Sean P. DeNigris > wrote: > Sean P. DeNigris wrote > > I noticed that right now, separate packages within the same project ar

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus Tree

2013-11-29 Thread kilon alios
I dont see much room for thought, this looks to me like ideal behavior. On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Sean P. DeNigris wrote > > I noticed that right now, separate packages within the same project are > > not collapsed. E.g. if I have MyProject-Core and MyProject-Pla

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus Tree

2013-11-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sean P. DeNigris wrote > I noticed that right now, separate packages within the same project are > not collapsed. E.g. if I have MyProject-Core and MyProject-Platform, they > will be siblings in the tree, instead of both under MyProject. It seems > like it would be more useful to have > - MyProject

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] ba3c45: 30606

2013-11-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
GitHub wrote > [snip] > Changed paths: > A Komitter.package/BigCogInitialState.class/README.md > A Komitter.package/BigCogInitialState.class/class/private/imageData.st > A Komitter.package/BigCogInitialState.class/class/private/size.st > [reaally long snip] > > Log Message:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

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[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 92e0c6: 30610

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[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2013-11-29 Thread GitHub
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Re: [Pharo-dev] Bug font windows

2013-11-29 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > > On 27 November 2013 21:42, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> >> On Nov 27, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >> That is what I wanted to ask: How you built the image. Ok. I will try to >> open a Pharo image built on Mac on a W

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 727a4b: 30609

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[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2013-11-29 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30609 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] Stepping through with GLORP Proxies

2013-11-29 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Does anybody else have issues while stepping through GLORP Proxy objects (collections in this case)? I simply can't use this feature unless the proxied collection was already materialized. I can't reproduce it right now, but it bites me everytime is step through blocks, because stepping into is r

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stopping Zinc

2013-11-29 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 29 Nov 2013, at 14:25, Sebastian Sastre wrote: > Did a test now and looks good. OK > But using closeAndDestroy: 0 when stopping the websocket handler collects > things a lot sooner It is called a graceful shutdown and is apparently the default for SocketStream>>#close since 2005. But I a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stopping Zinc

2013-11-29 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Did a test now and looks good. But using closeAndDestroy: 0 when stopping the websocket handler collects things a lot sooner thanks for the tip Sven! On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 29 Nov 2013, at 13:31, Sebastian Sastre > wrote: > >> I've just find o

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stopping Zinc

2013-11-29 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 29 Nov 2013, at 13:31, Sebastian Sastre wrote: > I've just find out that closing chrome before stopping Zinc leaves everything > clean. > > The funny thing is that Zinc is closing the sockets on stop.. > > I mean, if they are properly killed, one wouldn't expect them to cause the > hold

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stopping Zinc

2013-11-29 Thread Sebastian Sastre
I've just find out that closing chrome before stopping Zinc leaves everything clean. The funny thing is that Zinc is closing the sockets on stop.. I mean, if they are properly killed, one wouldn't expect them to cause the hold of any thread even if web browser tries to keep open connections.

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

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[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Re: [Pharo-dev] Coordinates problem with Athens and Morphic while coding Hyperion

2013-11-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 29 November 2013 09:42, kilon alios wrote: > please note that the button for inserting an image is different to the > button for attaching an image. Strange that it does not let you attach > files, maybe if you zip, but in any case why dont you make smalltalkhub > repo and publish the code the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bug font windows

2013-11-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 29 November 2013 07:48, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks igor. > What is strange is that it worked the first time. > > maybe because it was not initialized before. > That is what I wanted to ask: How you built the image. Ok. I will try to >> open a Pharo image built on Mac on a Windows machine

Re: [Pharo-dev] Added shop page

2013-11-29 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Thanks. One problem I do have is how the hell can I change some look and feel pieces. That's more a general thing for the presentation framework than the content. My main "surprise" was that I needed blocks for everything. And that doing italics was hard, when I wanted to do a citation. Or is it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Added shop page

2013-11-29 Thread Christoph Wysseier
Am 28.11.13 11:51, schrieb p...@highoctane.be: I am getting used to the CMSBox UI. And if you have an unsolvable problem once or feedback concerning the user interface we are always available for your comfort and support: m...@cmsbox.com Cheers, Chris -- Christoph Wysseier netstyle.ch Gm

Re: [Pharo-dev] Coordinates problem with Athens and Morphic while coding Hyperion

2013-11-29 Thread kilon alios
"why?" what Stephane ? Continue what ? I did not say I don't want to learn . On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > > Ok I have verified and indeed its not an Athens problem. My bad. The > position of the morph is reported at 5@30 and the not the correct 0@0. So > it loo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Coordinates problem with Athens and Morphic while coding Hyperion

2013-11-29 Thread kilon alios
please note that the button for inserting an image is different to the button for attaching an image. Strange that it does not let you attach files, maybe if you zip, but in any case why dont you make smalltalkhub repo and publish the code there and give me the link to it ? On Fri, Nov 29, 2013