Re: [Pharo-dev] Desktop Application with Pharo

2014-01-02 Thread Pavel Krivanek
2014/1/1 Damir Majer da...@majcon.de First of all, I wish all of you a happy new year 2014! I would like to develop my first Desktop Application with Pharo... What is with Pharo3.0 available/possible and should be used. Topics of interest are: Framework for GUI Development Try to look

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] f56319: 30665

2014-01-02 Thread GitHub
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[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-01-02 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30665 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-01-02 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30666 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 4e85c3: 30666

2014-01-02 Thread GitHub
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Re: [Pharo-dev] Desktop Application with Pharo

2014-01-02 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
It is nice, and easy to get it running with a consistent look and feel. Looks perfect for office applications! Sadly, on my aging machine, XUL applications tends to be slow (Firefox vs Chrome), but Phobos play nicely, so I guess there are other parameters. Very nice. Thanks Hilaire Le

Re: [Pharo-dev] Thank you for Pharo

2014-01-02 Thread Volkert Barr
On 01.01.2014, at 19:26, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: I understand that community support is needed, and yes i am willing to help. As a first step i can offer my help to test pharo features, help to write test cases, write some example code snippets, open bug reports.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Thank you for Pharo

2014-01-02 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Roassal is about visualizing and interacting with objects. Roassal is frequently used when analyzing data, in particular software related data. Roassal may be used as it is, or one can use one of the available layers at the top of it. For example, GraphET is about drawing charts, curves and so

Re: [Pharo-dev] new year resolution

2014-01-02 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 1, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Ok, but let's get concrete. What does better mean in this case? I think we could all learn from each other's examples. Relations/Collaborations with other classes Invariant internal representations for real

[Pharo-dev] Learning from each other

2014-01-02 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Hi guys, Watching other people code is the fastest way to learn certain things. It's a great way to show, understand and set expectations on code-related projects What about doing some Pharo related code here: http://coderstv.com/languages sebastian o/

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 65a8bf: 30667

2014-01-02 Thread GitHub
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[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-01-02 Thread GitHub
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Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2014-01-02 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Tudor Girba-2 wrote - I love it how I can navigate with up/down and still continue typing. This is seriously cool. :) Tudor Girba-2 wrote - Esc has no effect ( I had implemented it for entry completion. It is working in SpotlighMorph now also. Tudor Girba-2 wrote - The list entries

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-01-02 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30668 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 041982: 30668

2014-01-02 Thread GitHub
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Re: [Pharo-dev] Thank you for Pharo

2014-01-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 02 Jan 2014, at 11:48, Volkert Barr volk...@nivoba.de wrote: On 01.01.2014, at 19:26, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: I understand that community support is needed, and yes i am willing to help. As a first step i can offer my help to test pharo features, help to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Thank you for Pharo

2014-01-02 Thread Marcus Denker
On 02 Jan 2014, at 11:49, Volkert Barr volk...@nivoba.de wrote: On 01.01.2014, at 19:26, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: I understand that community support is needed, and yes i am willing to help. As a first step i can offer my help to test pharo features, help to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour vs Spec (was: towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger))

2014-01-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Doru You know well that Glamour has a component model that it not plain smalltalk model. So why are you telling me I do not know what? Now you also know that Glamour overuse blocks with multiple optional block arguments where the order is important. So I do not undersand why you are saying

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour vs Spec (was: towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger))

2014-01-02 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Stef, Glamour does not overuse blocks any more than any caller to cull: does it. And if you look closely now, you will see that the amount of arguments have decreased significantly (you do not have to repeat the objects that are passed in by the transmission for every block). But, blocks are

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour vs Spec (was: towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger))

2014-01-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 02 Jan 2014, at 14:40, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi Stef, Glamour does not overuse blocks any more than any caller to cull: does it. And if you look closely now, you will see that the amount of arguments have decreased significantly good to know (you do not have to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour vs Spec (was: towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger))

2014-01-02 Thread Alexandre Bergel
I think that one example Stef has in mind, is the following: GLMCompositePresentation new with: [ :a | a list display: [ :input | 1 to: input ]; act: [ :list | self halt ] entitled: 'Plip' ]; openOn: 42 what is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour vs Spec (was: towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger))

2014-01-02 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Stef, On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.frwrote: On 02 Jan 2014, at 14:40, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi Stef, Glamour does not overuse blocks any more than any caller to cull: does it. And if you look closely now, you will see that

Re: [Pharo-dev] New in Graph-ET

2014-01-02 Thread Daniel Aviv Notario
Sure, it sound pretty doable. I'll work on it right now. Cheers Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 15:50:32 +0100 From: tu...@tudorgirba.com To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] New in Graph-ET Hi Daniel, Welcome back! :) I like the scatterplot. Just a note: Scatterplot is one word, not

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2014-01-02 Thread Tudor Girba
Brilliant! I tested it, and it works fine. Doru On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: I removed the preference setting, and made it a local action (Issue 10551) Stephan -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow PastedGraphic-1.png

[Pharo-dev] DateModel label width

2014-01-02 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
I want to specify that the label column should shrinkWrap the text. In Morphic, it would be something like: gui := Morph new changeTableLayout; layoutInset: 10@10; listDirection: #leftToRight; vResizing: #spaceFill; hResizing: #spaceFill; yourself.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue tracker] Help needed for reviews

2014-01-02 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 02 Jan 2014, at 15:25, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hello, We have some issues ready that nevertheless need to be reviewed by humans: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/45/Review We know that they do not make tests fail and even pass some code critic tests.

[Pharo-dev] Weird Athens Artifact

2014-01-02 Thread J.F. Rick
I've been converting DigiTile over to Athens with general success but I have found an odd rendering bug. In this scenario, I am moving the brown square around with a hand. As I am using AthensWrapMorph, I have made it so that the brown square is a submorph of the application (an AthensWrapMorph)

Re: [Pharo-dev] DateModel label width

2014-01-02 Thread Benjamin
I am currently working on a way to specify different layout policy. But until it works, there is no real way to do it. A dirty patch in the meantime would be to specify the policy to the morph when built. Ben On 02 Jan 2014, at 16:26, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: I want to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird Athens Artifact

2014-01-02 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 2 January 2014 16:54, J.F. Rick s...@je77.com wrote: I've been converting DigiTile over to Athens with general success but I have found an odd rendering bug. In this scenario, I am moving the brown square around with a hand. As I am using AthensWrapMorph, I have made it so that the brown

Re: [Pharo-dev] Learning from each other

2014-01-02 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 2 January 2014 12:40, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.comwrote: Hi guys, Watching other people code is the fastest way to learn certain things. and there's plenty of opportunity for you in Pharo - just open browser to see other people code ;) It's a great way to show,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird Athens Artifact

2014-01-02 Thread J.F. Rick
I'm aware of the default Morphic behavior. I've hacked it so that a transparent 1x1 pixel bit is in the hand and its movement causes the brown morph to move and remain a submorph of the AthensWrapMorph application. Yes, this is some kind of weird clipping thing. Specifically, it looks like

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue tracker] Help needed for reviews

2014-01-02 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Ok, this new to me, so I may not understand clearly. I give a try and pointed Pharo 3.0 to a Slice I know about, SLICE 12495 on PolygonMoprh. I asked for the changes implication and see a lot not related to PolygonMorph. Is it normal? Hilaire Le 02/01/2014 15:25, Marcus Denker a écrit : Hello,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue tracker] Help needed for reviews

2014-01-02 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Hilaire wrote: I asked for the changes implication and see a lot not related to PolygonMorph. Is it normal? The first comment is mainly cleaning deadcode. That should serve as a warning. Most slices have a better focus, but there are a few only describing the most important fix. Finer

[Pharo-dev] Feature for request for GraphET?

2014-01-02 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! Daniel is looking for usage scenarios with GraphET. It would be great to hear about your need. Currently, we will work on: - PDF Export using Artefact - support for legend - smarter way to put labels on axis Anything else? Cheers, Alexandre --

Re: [Pharo-dev] debugger broken?

2014-01-02 Thread Marcus Denker
On 02 Jan 2014, at 20:25, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Evaluating works now but I'm seeing this on #30668 doing cmd-s to accept code changes did it ever work on Pharo3? Just to know if this is a regression... Screen Shot 2014-01-02 at 5.09.41 PM.png On

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue tracker] Help needed for reviews

2014-01-02 Thread Marcus Denker
On 02 Jan 2014, at 17:47, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, this new to me, so I may not understand clearly. I give a try and pointed Pharo 3.0 to a Slice I know about, SLICE 12495 on PolygonMoprh. I asked for the changes implication and see a lot not related to

Re: [Pharo-dev] debugger broken?

2014-01-02 Thread Tudor Girba
Yes, it worked. I just tried in a #30664 image. Doru On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: On 02 Jan 2014, at 20:25, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Evaluating works now but I'm seeing this on #30668 doing cmd-s to accept code

Re: [Pharo-dev] debugger broken?

2014-01-02 Thread Marcus Denker
On 02 Jan 2014, at 20:49, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Yes, it worked. I just tried in a #30664 image. Ok, then my guess is that this is a special case that nobody has yet run into… maybe related to contexts that had been serialised? Doru On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:36 PM,

Re: [Pharo-dev] debugger broken?

2014-01-02 Thread Tudor Girba
Indeed, I tried in the latest Pharo and it seems to work just fine there, too. Doru On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: On 02 Jan 2014, at 20:49, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Yes, it worked. I just tried in a #30664 image. Ok, then my

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2014-01-02 Thread Tudor Girba
Now, that the issue was fixed without me doing anything, I can reply. I think we are going too much in the direction of discouraging opinions and ideas on the basis that no code comes with them. In our particular case, it seems to me that it was my little suggestion that triggered the energy to

Re: [Pharo-dev] debugger broken?

2014-01-02 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Cool! Alexandre On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Indeed, I tried in the latest Pharo and it seems to work just fine there, too. Doru On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 02 Jan 2014, at 20:49, Tudor Girba

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue tracker] Help needed for reviews

2014-01-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi sven We got an internal discussion on this topic with the same concerns. Komitter was pushed because it does not touch existing code and because people like mariano where starting to code it in parallel. So we thought it was important for people. The idea is that we have some bugs to fix

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue tracker] Help needed for reviews

2014-01-02 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Le 02/01/2014 20:37, Marcus Denker a écrit : I always use “merge”. “Changes” will e.g. show all the changes towards everything changed in between, too. For me this is weird, I can't understand the logic. Merge: shows you the changes then let your merge Change: shows some other sort of

Re: [Pharo-dev] DateModel label width

2014-01-02 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote A dirty patch in the meantime would be to specify the policy to the morph when built. A workaround would be fine for the moment. Were you suggesting a mess ( ;-) ) like the following? … open | windowModel paperworkDateWidget labelWidget |

[Pharo-dev] Commit right to PharoInbox 3

2014-01-02 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Hello, I want to commit a slice. username: HilaireFernandes Thanks -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue tracker] Help needed for reviews

2014-01-02 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Changes reads Merge writes In order to make safe a potentially dangerous operation, the write is done in two steps so the user can confirm what is going to be written (or have a chance to check if changes are the ones expected or not and abort without modifying the code). It's functionally

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2014-01-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Now, that the issue was fixed without me doing anything, I can reply. I think we are going too much in the direction of discouraging opinions and ideas on the basis that no code comes with them. Let us try to understand a bit. we have a LOT LOT LOT of duties for Pharo and in addition we