[Pharo-dev] Updated DrGeo page on wikipedia

2014-07-21 Thread Hilaire
Hi, I finally decided to update myself the Dr. Geo wikipedia page, although I don't really like doing so, as the author I may not have the appropriate neutral tone needed for wikipedia articles. Anyway I was sick to see out of date information related to Dr. Geo (mostly C++ version based). If

[Pharo-dev] Please vote on Dr. Geo news

2014-07-21 Thread Hilaire
http://www.fsdaily.com/EndUser/Dr_Geo_14_07 Do you know of other places where it is appropriate to post news about Dr. Geo? Thanks Hilaire -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://launchpad.net/istoa

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2014-07-21 until: 2014-07-31

2014-07-21 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-07-21 2:00 GMT-03:00 : > Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community > an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. > Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! > > ### Here's what I've been up to sinc

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Ephestos - Using and Coding Blender from inside Pharo

2014-07-21 Thread kilon alios
Yeah !!! I did it !!! :D Apparently I was doing it wrong , by returning the message in doesNotUnderstand , this is why the next MNU was returned by Object instead of my parser class. Say bye bye to ugly nil syntax , Ephestos now supports normal pharo messaging. This ugly thing EphParser bpy:ni

Re: [Pharo-dev] Suspending a Process

2014-07-21 Thread Nicolai Hess
I am still struggling with it. Any ideas? 2014-07-09 11:19 GMT+02:00 Nicolai Hess : > > > > 2014-07-09 2:07 GMT+02:00 Eliot Miranda : > > Hi Nicolai, >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:19 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: >> >>> I want to create a process doing some work and call #changed on a Morph. >>>

Re: [Pharo-dev] SciSmalltalk v0.12

2014-07-21 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2014-07-21 16:39 GMT+02:00 Serge Stinckwich : > In fact it was a typo, this is an external package developed by > Nicolas Cellier : http://www.squeaksource.com/Smallapack.html > Sorry, not integrated with SciSmalltalk at the moment. > > Regards, > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Ben Coman wrot

Re: [Pharo-dev] Understanding ClassModifiedClassDefinition announcement

2014-07-21 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Oh, thanks. This was useful! On 21 Jul 2014, at 21:02, Nicolai Hess wrote: > during > Object subclass: #SomeClass instanceVariableNames: 'one' > the announcement is send and your class var points to the old class > definition. > after > Object subclass: #SomeClass instanceVariableNames: 'one

Re: [Pharo-dev] Understanding ClassModifiedClassDefinition announcement

2014-07-21 Thread Nicolai Hess
during Object subclass: #SomeClass instanceVariableNames: 'one' the announcement is send and your class var points to the old class definition. after Object subclass: #SomeClass instanceVariableNames: 'one' is done, your class var points to the new class definition. And yes, I think it is the wrong

[Pharo-dev] Understanding ClassModifiedClassDefinition announcement

2014-07-21 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi, I did this small experiment class := Object subclass: #SomeClass. SystemAnnouncer uniqueInstance when: ClassModifiedClassDefinition do: [ :ann | Transcript cr; crShow: class == ann oldClassDefinition; crShow: cla

Re: [Pharo-dev] mistakenly committed in Pharo30

2014-07-21 Thread stepharo
Thanks doru for the notice I has normally no impact since we only load versionned versions. Stef On 21/7/14 18:21, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi. Just to let you know: I committed by mistake Keymapping-Core-TudorGirba.185 directly in the http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main repository. I l

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to close all inspector windows ?

2014-07-21 Thread Jan Vrany
On 21/07/14 17:46, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: On 21 Jul 2014, at 18:40, Peter Uhnák mailto:i.uh...@gmail.com>> wrote: > We should not get limited in spawning inspectors, I think. My question is... is there any legitimate reason to have opened hundreds of any type of window? Whether they are brow

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to close all inspector windows ?

2014-07-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 21 Jul 2014, at 18:40, Peter Uhnák wrote: > > We should not get limited in spawning inspectors, I think. > My question is... is there any legitimate reason to have opened hundreds of > any type of window? Whether they are browser, debugger, inspector or anything > else. At least to me that

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to close all inspector windows ?

2014-07-21 Thread Peter Uhnák
> We should not get limited in spawning inspectors, I think. My question is... is there any legitimate reason to have opened hundreds of any type of window? Whether they are browser, debugger, inspector or anything else. At least to me that would seem like an error. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:30 P

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to close all inspector windows ?

2014-07-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 21 Jul 2014, at 18:26, Guillermo Polito wrote: > +1 to Doru. +1 > > In addition, if managed at the inspector level, you'll have the same problem > with the debuggers and any other easily-spawned window. > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > I think the issue shoul

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to close all inspector windows ?

2014-07-21 Thread Guillermo Polito
+1 to Doru. In addition, if managed at the inspector level, you'll have the same problem with the debuggers and any other easily-spawned window. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > I think the issue should be addressed at the level of the TaskbarMorph. > That should be the on

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to close all inspector windows ?

2014-07-21 Thread Tudor Girba
I think the issue should be addressed at the level of the TaskbarMorph. That should be the one that gets limited, for example, by providing a "more windows" button. We should not get limited in spawning inspectors, I think. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:58 PM, stepharo wrote: > > On

[Pharo-dev] mistakenly committed in Pharo30

2014-07-21 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi. Just to let you know: I committed by mistake Keymapping-Core-TudorGirba.185 directly in the http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main repository. I logged in on SmalltalkHub, and I deleted the offending mcz now. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] MetaLinks on Class Variables

2014-07-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 21 Jul 2014, at 15:51, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 21 Jul 2014, at 11:28, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> One of the questions with having meta objects for variables (Slots and >> Globals) is: For what is is good? >> >> Here is one example… in early stage but working. >> > > No

Re: [Pharo-dev] SciSmalltalk v0.12

2014-07-21 Thread Serge Stinckwich
In fact it was a typo, this is an external package developed by Nicolas Cellier : http://www.squeaksource.com/Smallapack.html Sorry, not integrated with SciSmalltalk at the moment. Regards, On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > Serge Stinckwich wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> we are t

Re: [Pharo-dev] SciSmalltalk v0.12

2014-07-21 Thread Ben Coman
Serge Stinckwich wrote: Dear all, we are to happy to announce SciSmalltalk v0.12 SciSmalltalk is a new Smalltalk project, similar to existing scientific libraries like NumPy, SciPy for Python or SciRuby for Ruby. SciSmalltalk already provide the following basic functionalities: - complex and q

Re: [Pharo-dev] RIP PackageInfo

2014-07-21 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 21/07/2014 15:45, Esteban A. Maringolo a écrit : If you say it's a big milestone it must be so. :) But can you explain how this affects the current development workflow? Not much except that there is less code involved :) PackageInfo has been more or less dead for a while, thanks to all the

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] MetaLinks on Class Variables

2014-07-21 Thread Ben Coman
Marcus Denker wrote: On 21 Jul 2014, at 11:28, Marcus Denker wrote: Hello, One of the questions with having meta objects for variables (Slots and Globals) is: For what is is good? Here is one example… in early stage but working. Now working: MetaLinks on Class Varia

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 4844d6: 40111

2014-07-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 4844d62ad933249e7fcd732bfce9f2d378df81cd https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/4844d62ad933249e7fcd732bfce9f2d378df81cd Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-07-21 (Mon, 21 Jul 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-07-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40111 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] RIP PackageInfo

2014-07-21 Thread stepharo
If you say it's a big milestone it must be so. :) But can you explain how this affects the current development workflow? nothing changes. You have Packages (real object and not #symbol) Packages can contain tag (kind of category) MCPackages are to version and you do not need to kn

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to close all inspector windows ?

2014-07-21 Thread stepharo
On 21/7/14 10:29, Peter Uhnák wrote: Wouldn't it be easier to simply enforce fixed limit of Inspector/Debug instances (e.g. 10 or 20)? After reaching the limit creation of more would be simply ignored. Because as a victim I don't see much use of having vastly more windows than even fit on the

Re: [Pharo-dev] RIP PackageInfo

2014-07-21 Thread stepharo
Finally! Let us savor this moment. Yes it was a boring but important task. We have some other trolls to kill :) Stef On 21/7/14 15:32, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: Today I finally managed to accomplish this task. It was just a couple of hours work now, but is the result of years of hard work clean

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] MetaLinks on Class Variables

2014-07-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 21 Jul 2014, at 11:28, Marcus Denker wrote: > Hello, > > One of the questions with having meta objects for variables (Slots and > Globals) is: For what is is good? > > Here is one example… in early stage but working. > Now working: MetaLinks on Class Variables. |link | link := MetaLin

Re: [Pharo-dev] RIP PackageInfo

2014-07-21 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
If you say it's a big milestone it must be so. :) But can you explain how this affects the current development workflow? I still can't get my head around of how Packages/Categories/MCPackages work together, particularly when moving a method to a category and/or package... it works, but I don't ha

Re: [Pharo-dev] RIP PackageInfo

2014-07-21 Thread Max Leske
whoop whoop! On 21.07.2014, at 15:32, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Today I finally managed to accomplish this task. > It was just a couple of hours work now, but is the result of years of hard > work cleaning the system and introducing RPackage. > This “small and random change” was in my TODO

Re: [Pharo-dev] Dali and Voyage

2014-07-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 21 Jul 2014, at 09:44, stepharo wrote: > > On 21/7/14 08:46, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> DALI >> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/DALi.html >> >> VOYAGE >> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~estebanlm/Voyage > > I do not know if there are back ends for something else than mongo in Voyage. certainly not

[Pharo-dev] RIP PackageInfo

2014-07-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Today I finally managed to accomplish this task. It was just a couple of hours work now, but is the result of years of hard work cleaning the system and introducing RPackage. This “small and random change” was in my TODO list since I joined the Pharo team, two and a half years ago, and now I ca

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 3e9823: 40110

2014-07-21 Thread Pavel Krivanek
RIP :-) -- Pavel 2014-07-21 15:27 GMT+02:00 GitHub : > Branch: refs/heads/4.0 > Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core > Commit: 3e98239bcb1b1be1b3ba3422ed5a94c734af861b > > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/3e98239bcb1b1be1b3ba3422ed5a94c734af861b > Author

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2014-07-21 until: 2014-07-31

2014-07-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 21 Jul 2014, at 07:00, seas...@rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: > Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community > an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. > Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! > > #

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-07-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40110 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 3e9823: 40110

2014-07-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 3e98239bcb1b1be1b3ba3422ed5a94c734af861b https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/3e98239bcb1b1be1b3ba3422ed5a94c734af861b Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-07-21 (Mon, 21 Jul 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 4df110: 40109

2014-07-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 4df1107b00e7627efc791b82a3b97ffc860171ea https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/4df1107b00e7627efc791b82a3b97ffc860171ea Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-07-21 (Mon, 21 Jul 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-07-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40109 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] 503 on pharo-contribution CI

2014-07-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 21 Jul 2014, at 13:30, Max Leske wrote: > The same thing happened yesterday too, don’t know if someone restarted it but > it came back a while later. > yes, I restarted it yesterday, too…. > On 21.07.2014, at 12:51, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On 21 Jul 2014, at 12:46, Serge Stinckwich

Re: [Pharo-dev] 503 on pharo-contribution CI

2014-07-21 Thread Max Leske
The same thing happened yesterday too, don’t know if someone restarted it but it came back a while later. On 21.07.2014, at 12:51, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 21 Jul 2014, at 12:46, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > >> pharo-contribution disappear again. >> > retarted… very strange. > >> On Fri, J

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] removing Breakpoints (old implementation)

2014-07-21 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, We will remove the old BreakPoint implementation… later we get new ones based on MetaLinks. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13621/remove-old-BreakPoints-for-now Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] 503 on pharo-contribution CI

2014-07-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 21 Jul 2014, at 12:46, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > pharo-contribution disappear again. > retarted… very strange. > On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Marcus Denker > wrote: >> >> On 18 Jul 2014, at 10:04, Max Leske wrote: >> >>> I’m getting a 503 when trying to access pharo-contribution C

Re: [Pharo-dev] 503 on pharo-contribution CI

2014-07-21 Thread Serge Stinckwich
pharo-contribution disappear again. On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 18 Jul 2014, at 10:04, Max Leske wrote: > >> I’m getting a 503 when trying to access pharo-contribution CI. It was >> working until half an hour ago. Could someone take a look please? >> >> Cheers,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] MetaLinks on Slots

2014-07-21 Thread Norbert Hartl
I can just repeat myself. This is such a big impact and a huge step forward. Bravo! Sadly there is other work to do. Norbert Am 21.07.2014 um 11:28 schrieb Marcus Denker : > Hello, > > One of the questions with having meta objects for variables (Slots and > Globals) is: For what is is good?

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] MetaLinks on Slots

2014-07-21 Thread Clara Allende
Super cool, and then we have to integrate with the metaLink based breakpoints (almost there), and we can start a party :D 2014-07-21 11:33 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Man, this is exciting! > > A strong reason to already switch to Pharo 4 :) > > Doru > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] MetaLinks on Slots

2014-07-21 Thread Tudor Girba
Man, this is exciting! A strong reason to already switch to Pharo 4 :) Doru On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > Hello, > > One of the questions with having meta objects for variables (Slots and > Globals) is: For what is is good? > > Here is one example… in early stage bu

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] MetaLinks on Slots

2014-07-21 Thread Marcus Denker
Hello, One of the questions with having meta objects for variables (Slots and Globals) is: For what is is good? Here is one example… in early stage but working. Imagine you want to “hook into” instance variable access. It can be done with e.g. bytecode manipulation, or on the AST level. But th

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Ephestos - Using and Coding Blender from inside Pharo

2014-07-21 Thread kilon alios
According to this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9903670/measure-local-sockets-speed The speed for a modern computer should be around 200 mbs/sec , you can easily choke Pharo with this amount of data.I seriously doubt that Pharo can process 200mbs in 1 second. So it looks like you will worry

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 44c32e: 40108

2014-07-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 44c32e5d088f2a45edc349ae4054c56b49d382d4 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/44c32e5d088f2a45edc349ae4054c56b49d382d4 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-07-21 (Mon, 21 Jul 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-07-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40108 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to close all inspector windows ?

2014-07-21 Thread Peter Uhnák
Wouldn't it be easier to simply enforce fixed limit of Inspector/Debug instances (e.g. 10 or 20)? After reaching the limit creation of more would be simply ignored. Because as a victim I don't see much use of having vastly more windows than even fit on the screen especially since most of the errone

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 47eeac: 40107

2014-07-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 47eeac1f3116bcffe187d7aafcd832f50cf6dfe0 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/47eeac1f3116bcffe187d7aafcd832f50cf6dfe0 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-07-21 (Mon, 21 Jul 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-07-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40107 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2014-07-21 until: 2014-07-31

2014-07-21 Thread Max Leske
On 21.07.2014, at 07:00, seas...@rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: > Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community > an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. > Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! > > ##

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Ephestos - Using and Coding Blender from inside Pharo

2014-07-21 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:48 AM, kilon alios wrote: > Well in theory it should work. > > I am saying "in theory" because I have not tried MORSE. > > What is Ephestos ? Basically its a python application that creates a > streamsocket server that listens byte data, then it takes the byte messages >

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to close all inspector windows ?

2014-07-21 Thread p...@highoctane.be
It would be nice to have the toolbar have some kind of Win7 spinner to the right to solve this. Is there a way to know when a system window was opened? Who hasn't been a victim of the attack of the too many windows popping up all over? Phil Le 21 juil. 2014 02:12, "Ben Coman" a écrit : > kilo

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2014-07-21 until: 2014-07-31

2014-07-21 Thread stepharo
On 21/7/14 07:00, seas...@rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! ### Here's what I'

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Ephestos - Using and Coding Blender from inside Pharo

2014-07-21 Thread kilon alios
Well in theory it should work. I am saying "in theory" because I have not tried MORSE. What is Ephestos ? Basically its a python application that creates a streamsocket server that listens byte data, then it takes the byte messages it converts them to strings and it executes them using exec() bu

Re: [Pharo-dev] Dali and Voyage

2014-07-21 Thread stepharo
On 21/7/14 08:46, Torsten Bergmann wrote: DALI http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/DALi.html VOYAGE http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~estebanlm/Voyage I do not know if there are back ends for something else than mongo in Voyage. Any experiences to share about pro and cons? Thanks T.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Ephestos - Using and Coding Blender from inside Pharo

2014-07-21 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 7:34 PM, kilon alios wrote: > hi guys Ephestos has been moving forward and I am happy to report I can > finally offer 100% accessibility to Blender Python API , meaning you can > have access to any blender operator and property. > > Additionally Ephestos won't crash anymore