Re: [Pharo-dev] in latest 40 [Nautilus] we cannot drap and drop classes

2014-07-28 Thread Marcus Denker
On 27 Jul 2014, at 22:28, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: done ;) Integrating it now… Marcus

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[Pharo-dev] Configuration readonly archives

2014-07-28 Thread François Stephany
We've been bitten a few times at Ta Mère by the problem of changing metacello configuration. At the moment, we rely on the policy of you should never change a Metacello version once it has been published. Of course this is fragile and we've ended up with different code loaded in different

Re: [Pharo-dev] Configuration readonly archives

2014-07-28 Thread stepharo
Salut Francois We've been bitten a few times at Ta Mère by the problem of changing metacello configuration. I agree. This is why I also think that released should point to version and not symbolic version. What I do is that we can use versionner to release more often configurations pointing

Re: [Pharo-dev] Dali and Voyage

2014-07-28 Thread Henrik Johansen
On 21 Jul 2014, at 3:34 , Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 Jul 2014, at 09:44, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: On 21/7/14 08:46, Torsten Bergmann wrote: DALI http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/DALi.html VOYAGE http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~estebanlm/Voyage I do not know

Re: [Pharo-dev] Configuration readonly archives

2014-07-28 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Hi François It sounds like you need snapshots. That has nothing to do with Metacello. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] Dali and Voyage

2014-07-28 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:15, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote: On 21 Jul 2014, at 3:34 , Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 Jul 2014, at 09:44, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: On 21/7/14 08:46, Torsten Bergmann wrote: DALI

Re: [Pharo-dev] Dali and Voyage

2014-07-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:36, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:15, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote: On 21 Jul 2014, at 3:34 , Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 Jul 2014, at 09:44, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Dali and Voyage

2014-07-28 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 28.07.2014 um 11:41 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:36, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:15, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote: On 21 Jul 2014, at 3:34 , Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] Dali and Voyage

2014-07-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:45, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 28.07.2014 um 11:41 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:36, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:15, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Configuration readonly archives

2014-07-28 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Stef wrote I agree. This is why I also think that released should point to version and not symbolic version. I strongly disagree. A configuration should only change when there is a meaningful change. Changes in dependencies that do not change relevant behavior should not propagate. We achieve

Re: [Pharo-dev] Dali and Voyage

2014-07-28 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 28.07.2014 um 11:51 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: But it _is_ more work than having it as a local subpart of some larger project. Slightly ;) Who does not properly package and document his own stuff? Wait …. the original author seems to be a Kent Beck. Anyone knows him? :)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Operating Smalltalkhub from Pharo

2014-07-28 Thread Damien Cassou
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/SmalltalkHub/? There is an undocumented REST API that the Amber client uses. On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 2:23 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if there is a way to operate smalltalkhub from pharo. What would interest me is to browser

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Tip] Image init scripts when working with PharoLauncher

2014-07-28 Thread Damien Cassou
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: I've found the following script very useful: here is what I do for MC credentials: credentials := Dictionary new. MCRepository classVarNamed: 'Settings' put: credentials. credentials at: 'account smalltalkhub'

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] b3aef1: 40131

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Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] Delay machinery (was Re: Suspending a Process)

2014-07-28 Thread J. Vuletich (mail lists)
Hi Ben, Your fix works great in Cuis too, thank you! (Cuis also had this annoying problem). I spent a few hours at this, and I couldn't really understand the problem with the old code. But yours makes perfect sense to me, and indeed it fixes the problem. One problem that remains is the use of

[Pharo-dev] Updated XMLPullParser for SIXX?

2014-07-28 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi guys, I was reading this post: http://kentreis.wordpress.com/2009/06/01/deep-sixx-with-xml-pull-parser/ about using a XMLPullParser with SIXX. This is from 2009 and I guess I guess SIXX and XML parsers have been changing in the last years. So...does somebody know if there is an updated

[Pharo-dev] Future

2014-07-28 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi All, I saw that Squeak has an implementation for futures. I saw another one, implemented with blocks [1]. There is nothing of the sort in Pharo at the moment? [1] http://onsmalltalk.com/smalltalk-concurrency-playing-with-futures Thanks, Thierry

Re: [Pharo-dev] Dali and Voyage

2014-07-28 Thread Henrik Johansen
On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:36 , Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:15, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote: On 21 Jul 2014, at 3:34 , Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 Jul 2014, at 09:44, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Dali and Voyage

2014-07-28 Thread Henrik Johansen
On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:41 , Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:36, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:15, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote: On 21 Jul 2014, at 3:34 , Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com

[Pharo-dev] why double click does not work in rubric sometimes

2014-07-28 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, A while ago, Stef reported that he could not select text anymore in the new Rubric-based interfaces (inspector, playground). I noticed this as well but only occasionally. Here is what I found. TextMorph uses a kind of a simulation to support smart selection. As a result, you basically can

Re: [Pharo-dev] Operating Smalltalkhub from Pharo

2014-07-28 Thread Tudor Girba
I am interested in this as well. I looked a bit at the Hub REST API, and I see I can do this: ShRepositoryHandlergetPackagesOf: name owner: username get path: '/{username}/{name}/packages' produces: 'text/json' Naively, I am trying to just get it like this: ZnEasy get:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] cfd4c9: 40132

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[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Re: [Pharo-dev] Operating Smalltalkhub from Pharo

2014-07-28 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 28 Jul 2014, at 17:20, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: I am interested in this as well. I looked a bit at the Hub REST API, and I see I can do this: ShRepositoryHandlergetPackagesOf: name owner: username get path: '/{username}/{name}/packages' produces:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Future

2014-07-28 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 28/07/2014 16:06, Max Leske a écrit : IIRC TaskIT supports fututes: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~sbragagnolo/TaskIT (there was a thread on the list recently). Thanks. I missed it, especially the forkIt part :) Why do you point me to http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~sbragagnolo/TaskIT and not

Re: [Pharo-dev] Future

2014-07-28 Thread Santiago Bragagnolo
In my repo you can find the last last things, in CAR the things that are kind of close. (The one in CAR is used by PhaROS core, so we prefer to have there close things :) ). Use the CAR one if you want to use it, take things from mine repo if you want to see where we are going. 2014-07-28 18:12

Re: [Pharo-dev] Future

2014-07-28 Thread Max Leske
On 28.07.2014, at 18:12, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: Le 28/07/2014 16:06, Max Leske a écrit : IIRC TaskIT supports fututes: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~sbragagnolo/TaskIT (there was a thread on the list recently). Thanks. I missed it, especially the forkIt part :)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Future

2014-07-28 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 28/07/2014 18:23, Santiago Bragagnolo a écrit : In my repo you can find the last last things, in CAR the things that are kind of close. (The one in CAR is used by PhaROS core, so we prefer to have there close things :) ). Use the CAR one if you want to use it, take things from mine repo if

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 278d2a: 40133

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[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

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[Pharo-dev] [Pharo4][Issue Tracker] All Failing added to the Issue tracker

2014-07-28 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, All failing 10 failing tests: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-4.0-Update-Step-2.1-Validation-M-Z/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/ now have an entry on the issue tracker https://pharo.fogbugz.com (the Zinc related ones are already fixed upstream, I wanted to have already merged

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] rethinking the print it action in Pharo

2014-07-28 Thread Johan Fabry
That looks like a cool re-imagining of the print-it ! On Jul 27, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, In the course of revamping the Pharo environment, we stumbled across the print it action and we (Andrei and I) decided to rethink it. new-print-it.png You

Re: [Pharo-dev] Operating Smalltalkhub from Pharo

2014-07-28 Thread kilon alios
thanks damien and esteban :) On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/SmalltalkHub/? There is an undocumented REST API that the Amber client uses. On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 2:23 PM, kilon alios

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-07-28 Thread kilon alios
looks like for some reason all my new commits fail to build the book in gitbook.io this is the error I am getting Tweaking book.json Failed to install extra plugins, maybe none to install Building Site, will upload Starting build ... Error Output /usr/bin/do-website: line 48:34 Segmentation

Re: [Pharo-dev] Configuration readonly archives

2014-07-28 Thread stepharo
We will discuss that on a black board at ESUG. A release is a release and when you release code you do not want to rely on something that somewhere could change. Christophe told me that they are doing that in Java world and this is working. Now for development you load your baseline and you

Re: [Pharo-dev] Configuration readonly archives

2014-07-28 Thread stepharo
BTW an important point. We cannot load any moose versions of the past (except the ones we snapshotted), to me this is a sign of problems. never be able to get back in a previous state is a problem. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Updated XMLPullParser for SIXX?

2014-07-28 Thread stepharo
Check because Hernan did something and there is a chapter on pfte On 28/7/14 14:52, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Hi guys, I was reading this post: http://kentreis.wordpress.com/2009/06/01/deep-sixx-with-xml-pull-parser/ about using a XMLPullParser with SIXX. This is from 2009 and I guess I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Configuration readonly archives

2014-07-28 Thread Stephan Eggermont
I'll be in Lille tomorrow. We could have a beer instead of a blackboard ;) Stephan

[Pharo-dev] GToolkit in Pharo 4?

2014-07-28 Thread Max Leske
I’ve tried loading GToolkit into Pharo 4 from a configuration: spec for: #'pharo4.x' do: [ spec project: 'GToolkit' with: [ spec className: 'ConfigurationOfGToolkit'; version: #bleedingEdge; file:

Re: [Pharo-dev] GToolkit in Pharo 4?

2014-07-28 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Just fix the configuration. Nothing there for pharo 4.x And as baseline012 refers to #development everywhere, you'll need to check all dependencies too Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] Operating Smalltalkhub from Pharo

2014-07-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 28 Jul 2014, at 17:20, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Naively, I am trying to just get it like this: ZnEasy get: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/girba/GPlay/packages' It is almost that easy, you just need the right API: ZnClient new contentReader: [ :entity | NeoJSONReader fromString:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Operating Smalltalkhub from Pharo

2014-07-28 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Esteban wrote What am I missing? Authentication? MCHttpRepository location: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/StephanEggermont/DeprecationFinder/main' user: ''

[Pharo-dev] Promises on Pharo?

2014-07-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Do we have Promises and/or Futures for Pharo? A+ ones? http://promisesaplus.com/ sebastian o/ blog: http://sebastianconcept.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiansastre github: https://github.com/sebastianconcept

Re: [Pharo-dev] Promises on Pharo?

2014-07-28 Thread Clara Allende
There is Santiago's work on TaskIT... https://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org/msg17446.html (and you can search for the whole thread in this mailing list ^^) 2014-07-29 1:04 GMT+02:00 Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com: Do we have Promises and/or Futures for Pharo?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Promises on Pharo?

2014-07-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
cool! thanks for the pointer Clara Also I saw now that Thierry asked too funny coincidence sebastian o/ blog: http://sebastianconcept.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiansastre github: https://github.com/sebastianconcept On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Clara Allende