Re: [Pharo-dev] Stack size for compiled methods (issue 13854 Crash/hang on array access)

2014-08-19 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Nicolai, On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > Thank you eliot, > > > 2014-08-19 7:29 GMT+02:00 Eliot Miranda : >> Hi Nicolai, >> >> the stack starts as deep as the method's number of temporaries, > > ok, > >> which is the sum of the number of arguments > > ok, >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Initial versions for OSWindow and Woden

2014-08-19 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Ronie Salgado wrote > For Mac OS X, I don't have one for testing. But Alex is going allow me to > borrow one for some time. So be patience. Any progress? I can help with testing... - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Initial-versions-for-OSWindow-and-Woden

Re: [Pharo-dev] Digging to understand Cmd+Click and Ctrl+Click

2014-08-19 Thread stepharo
Hi guille I was cleaning the event and we were slow to integrate the refactoring we did with igor. And now this is obsolete because there is OSWindow coming. We are about to integrate OSWindow code and soon or later we will have probably to change the processEvent: code. Stef On 18/8/14 17:

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to remove zeroconf for 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4

2014-08-19 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
for taking a look at the past the images are still available and will remain like that. what will not be available anymore are just the zeroconf scripts. And yes, cleaning time to time is a good idea, IMO. Otherwise we will end with infinite listings of things that no one use, left there just

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to remove zeroconf for 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4

2014-08-19 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Is removing history actually a good thing? Are those conveniences creating any actual problem by standing there? What if someone want to take a look at the past? On Aug 19, 2014, at 6:17 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > > right now there zeroconf scripts for pharo 1.2-1.4 that I do n

Re: [Pharo-dev] example custom mouse events

2014-08-19 Thread stepharo
good idea. We were discussing with alain about handles and handle because in bloc he is used wantsMouseDown instead handlesMouseDown. Stef On 19/8/14 09:17, Ben Coman wrote: It took a bit of hunting around to discover how to use the custom hooks for mouse event, and I needed to make some exa

Re: [Pharo-dev] Quitting the community

2014-08-19 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Torsten Bergmann wrote > I personally would keep ValueHolder as it is a well known concept Although it's extremely corollary to the purpose of this thread, since it keeps coming up, I just want to remind that the point of the original ValueHolder-rename discussion (in which no one said "let's keep

Re: [Pharo-dev] Quitting the community

2014-08-19 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Ben, first: I think it is not a secret that we appreciate any work you did so far for Pharo and our community. Still I do not like the mail you have written, because: - It gives a false impression of the community itself and leaves us back once more with questions (especially as most o

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to remove zeroconf for 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4

2014-08-19 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > is different problem. > most probably we will not have zeroconf for centos anytime soon. > but we will have builds for centos compatible vms (downloadable, but not > zercoconf), that’s for sure :) > > (yeah, I know, I promised that to yo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stack size for compiled methods (issue 13854 Crash/hang on array access)

2014-08-19 Thread Craig Latta
Hoi Eliot-- > [great explanation of method/block stack depth] Cool, is this viewable from an in-system tool somewhere (even if only a "documentation" method in a class browser)? thanks, -C -- Craig Latta netjam.org +31 6 2757 7177 (SMS ok) + 1 415 287 3547 (no SMS)

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to remove zeroconf for 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4

2014-08-19 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
is different problem. most probably we will not have zeroconf for centos anytime soon. but we will have builds for centos compatible vms (downloadable, but not zercoconf), that’s for sure :) (yeah, I know, I promised that to you like months ago, but I’ve been busy. I can just say the issue it

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to remove zeroconf for 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4

2014-08-19 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Centos ? Le 19 août 2014 13:19, "Esteban Lorenzano" a écrit : > ah, I also will add zeroconf for pharo-minimal :P > > On 19 Aug 2014, at 11:37, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > > > +1 > > > > On 19 Aug 2014, at 11:16, Max Leske wrote: > > > >> I don’t need them. > >> > >> On 19.08.2014, at 11:17, Esteban

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to remove zeroconf for 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4

2014-08-19 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
ah, I also will add zeroconf for pharo-minimal :P On 19 Aug 2014, at 11:37, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > +1 > > On 19 Aug 2014, at 11:16, Max Leske wrote: > >> I don’t need them. >> >> On 19.08.2014, at 11:17, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> right now there zeroconf scripts for ph

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to remove zeroconf for 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4

2014-08-19 Thread Tudor Girba
+100 On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > +1 > > On 19 Aug 2014, at 11:16, Max Leske wrote: > > > I don’t need them. > > > > On 19.08.2014, at 11:17, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> right now there zeroconf scripts for pharo 1.2-1.4 that I do not think > a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stack size for compiled methods (issue 13854 Crash/hang on array access)

2014-08-19 Thread Nicolai Hess
Thank you eliot, 2014-08-19 7:29 GMT+02:00 Eliot Miranda : > Hi Nicolai, > > the stack starts as deep as the method's number of temporaries, ok, > which is the sum of the number of arguments ok, > plus the number of temporary variables that can exist in the stack ok (what does "ca

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to remove zeroconf for 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4

2014-08-19 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
+1 On 19 Aug 2014, at 11:16, Max Leske wrote: > I don’t need them. > > On 19.08.2014, at 11:17, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> right now there zeroconf scripts for pharo 1.2-1.4 that I do not think >> anyone is using it. >> Can I remove them? >> >> cheers, >> Esteban > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to remove zeroconf for 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4

2014-08-19 Thread Max Leske
I don’t need them. On 19.08.2014, at 11:17, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > > right now there zeroconf scripts for pharo 1.2-1.4 that I do not think > anyone is using it. > Can I remove them? > > cheers, > Esteban

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Esug-list] Quitting the community

2014-08-19 Thread Maarten Mostert
No great things are achieved without great characters, Stephan has been doing a great long term effort of maintaining research budgets for Smalltalk and pushing a viable open source solution for it while the situation was pretty difficult. Like many of us he has some rough edges to and we should

[Pharo-dev] I want to remove zeroconf for 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4

2014-08-19 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, right now there zeroconf scripts for pharo 1.2-1.4 that I do not think anyone is using it. Can I remove them? cheers, Esteban

[Pharo-dev] example custom mouse events

2014-08-19 Thread Ben Coman
It took a bit of hunting around to discover how to use the custom hooks for mouse event, and I needed to make some examples to prove how it worked. I thought others might find this interesting. It just outputs to Transcript for each of the following events. Check the class comments for usa

Re: [Pharo-dev] Quitting the community

2014-08-19 Thread p...@highoctane.be
ReactiveHolder ? Phil On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > It is well to remember Marshall McLuhan, The Medium is the Message, the > thesis of which is that the nature of any medium has more importance than > the content if that medium in shaping its effects in the users of

Re: [Pharo-dev] Quitting the community

2014-08-19 Thread Pavel Krivanek
So why not simply ReactiveValueHolder? Who will look for ValueHolder will find it, who will look for reactive variables will find it and it well describes the purpose of the class ;-) Cheers, -- Pavel 2014-08-19 9:25 GMT+02:00 p...@highoctane.be : > Sure but the new thing was NewValueHolder. >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Quitting the community

2014-08-19 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Sure but the new thing was NewValueHolder. ValueHolder per se doesn't look like impacted. Well I saw some OldValueHolder proposal but it seemed strange to me. How would you name the new thing? Is there some pattern for that kind of case? Phil Le 19 août 2014 07:52, "Eliot Miranda" a écrit :