[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] e68dcc: 40228

Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: e68dccd4e4eddd40b111a3971ab6c09d4901d03b https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/e68dccd4e4eddd40b111a3971ab6c09d4901d03b Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-09-17 (Wed, 17 Sep 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

Branch: refs/tags/40228 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 3350b9: 40229

Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 3350b900bb8f285775fc46e196411a043845ee1a https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/3350b900bb8f285775fc46e196411a043845ee1a Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-09-17 (Wed, 17 Sep 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

Branch: refs/tags/40229 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Launcher Impressions

please submit your ideas to the Pharo Board who is currently gathering them. As soon as they have a proposal, I will do my best to implement it. Damien please collect them because the board is %#$^&^*& busy. and then you can said to the board here is what I think is good. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Launcher Impressions

On 16/9/14 15:17, Damien Cassou wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: How? send a mail to Esteban maybe :-) Please don't :) Damien please collect this information else we will never make progress. Esteban is flooded by work. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Launcher Impressions

Indeed. Please collect them, Damien. It would be a great help. Doru On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:46 AM, stepharo wrote: > > On 16/9/14 15:17, Damien Cassou wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Sean P. DeNigris >> wrote: >> >>> How? >>> >> >> send a mail to Esteban maybe :-) >> > > Please

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Launcher Impressions

Or create fogbugz entries. 2014-09-17 9:54 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Indeed. Please collect them, Damien. It would be a great help. > > Doru > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:46 AM, stepharo wrote: > >> >> On 16/9/14 15:17, Damien Cassou wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Sean P. DeNigr

[Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

Monticello kinds of freezes my image for a *very* long time. Long, meaning that it never completes I guess. Memory use shoots through the roof. What could cause that? I have been saving more than 200 versions of my package. Thanks for some advice from the trenches. Phil

[Pharo-dev] config change ci server Pharo4: run AsmJIT tests

Hi, We disabled running ASMJit tests before releasing Pharo2… (because of random crashed back then). Of course we forgot to turn it on again. I did that now. This is https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-4.0-Update-Step-2.1-Validation-A-L/ Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

On which operation ? I have 400+ versions of some packages, the size of your local package-cache might be an issue (you could try deleting everything older than a year for example, it's a cache after all). Working with a slow repository might also be an issue, some network operations sometimes

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Launcher Impressions

Yes, create fogbugz entries. PharoLauncher is already a project category on the issue tracker. This should be done by the original requestor of the ideas - not by Damien. Time will tell if someone has the time to work on these issues - but at least they will not be forgotten. Best is to also su

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

Hi Phil, how large is your package? We talked about very large packages with Sebastian Sastre not so long ago. Can you interrupt it to see where it is stuck? Thierry 2014-09-17 10:26 GMT+02:00 p...@highoctane.be : > Monticello kinds of freezes my image for a *very* long time. > Long, meaning

[Pharo-dev] Spec-Morphic tab manager broken

Hi. If you have any knowledge on how Spec adapters work, maybe you can take a look. To reproduce the bug: execute: "TabsExample open" and select one of (non-active) the tabs. Case here: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14030/MorphicTabManagerAdapter-doesNotUnderstand-tabSelected

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

Is it caught in a kind of loop trying to find the base version? Scanning through the ancestors and adding all those to the package cache? Thierry 2014-09-17 11:07 GMT+02:00 p...@highoctane.be : > Filesize is around 1MB. > > Here is what I do get in the debugger when stopping. > > TIA > Phil > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

I think that I've found why it got slow like that. I had the store diff instead of full versions (mistakenly selected I guess) and switching things back did the trick. What's that option? Never noticed it and it for sure hurt or plain doesn't work. Phil On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Thier

[Pharo-dev] [Issue Tracker] Call for CleanUp of the issue tracker

Hello, There are right now 675 open issues. (we managed to close 63 just the last 7 days…). A lot of those issues are very old. A lot are in a bad shape: -> not reproducible -> *completely* unclear what action could lead to solve the issue -> outdated (e.g. small improv

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

What kind of repo is that? Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

All the repository types have that option. Thierry 2014-09-17 11:37 GMT+02:00 Stephan Eggermont : > What kind of repo is that? > > Stephan > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue Tracker] Call for CleanUp of the issue tracker

Yes but, 2014-09-17 11:25 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker : > Hello, > > There are right now 675 open issues. (we managed to close 63 just the > last 7 days…). > > A lot of those issues are very old. A lot are in a bad shape: > > -> not reproducible > -> *completely* unclear what action could lead to so

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] ce818b: 40230

Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: ce818b3f743a0a0c94d86ec1471873b2a79c65ab https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/ce818b3f743a0a0c94d86ec1471873b2a79c65ab Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-09-17 (Wed, 17 Sep 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

Branch: refs/tags/40230 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue Tracker] Call for CleanUp of the issue tracker

On 17 Sep 2014, at 13:02, Nicolai Hess wrote: > Yes but, > > 2014-09-17 11:25 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker : > Hello, > > There are right now 675 open issues. (we managed to close 63 just the last 7 > days…). > > A lot of those issues are very old. A lot are in a bad shape: > > -> not re

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue Tracker] Call for CleanUp of the issue tracker

Marcus Denker wrote: Hello, There are right now 675 open issues.  (we managed to close 63 just the last 7 days…). A lot of those issues are very old. A lot are in a bad shape: -> not reproducible -> *completely* unclear what action could lead to solve the issue

[Pharo-dev] Multiple lines parameters editable spec interface

Hi Pharo, I would like to design a spec UI for modifying a list of parameters. One line will be composed with the name of the parameter and one editable field. Should I use a MultipleColumnListModel or should I define a new widget of one line and after that composed multiple instance of this widg

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo Sprint Lille 26th september

What? Pharo Sprint When? Friday, 26th September, starting at 10:00am Where? RMoD, Inria Lille, Building B, third floor http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/contact As the building is not open to the public, please contact us before if you plan to come.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo Sprint Lille 26th september

RMoD The requested object /web/pier/contact was not found on this server. You might want to try one of these options: - Click on a link on this site. - Jump to the RMoD homepage. - If you typed the page addr

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo Sprint Lille 26th september

Where: http://rmod.inria.fr/web/contact 2014-09-17 16:24 GMT+02:00 Santiago Bragagnolo : > RMoD > > The requested object /web/pier/contact was not found on this server. > > You might want to try one of these options: > >- Click on a link on this site. >- Jump to the RMoD >

[Pharo-dev] Versioner does not work on Pharo 4

So I tried today to open versioner to make a configuration for Ephestos and i got this error RBMethodNode(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #asSequenceNode EphPyParser class(Object)>>mustBeBooleanInMagic: EphPyParser class(Object)>>mustBeBoolean MetacelloProjectRegistration class>>ExecuteUnOptimizedIn:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

nope it was not your mistake thats the default, I have been experiencing slow downs as well. Maybe filetree is to blame here, I am using it as well . On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:24 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > I think that I've found why it got slow like that. > > I had the store diff instea

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Re: The Dilemma: Building a Futuristic GUI for Ephestos

Esteban A. Maringolo wrote > I don't see the > advantage of Morphic/Custom drawn UI over traditional widgets, even > HTML widgets. >From an "IDE for business apps" perspective, there may be little. But I only find "Pharo is a better IDE" moderately interesting. The blue plane idea is that Pharo is

[Pharo-dev] Interesting Date/Time Thread on Squeak Dev

From http://forum.world.st/Could-we-have-1-api-that-work-across-all-of-the-datish-classes-td4777676.html : On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote: > Ok. > > Date today + 15

Re: [Pharo-dev] AppeX

Le 17/09/2014 06:08, Tudor Girba a écrit : Hi Thierry, Thanks for the feedback. Indeed, the styling part works fine. What I do is have a first level parser that creates commands for styling. When I detect a Smalltalk block, the command delegates further to Shout. I guess that this type of desi

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo Sprint Lille 26th september

On 17 Sep 2014, at 16:25, Santiago Bragagnolo wrote: > > Where: http://rmod.inria.fr/web/contact > Ups, yes, this is the correct links. > > 2014-09-17 16:24 GMT+02:00 Santiago Bragagnolo : > RMoD > > The requested object /web/pier/contact was not found on this server. > > You might want

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] re: Parsing Pharo syntax to C/C++

Hi Eliot, Le 17/09/2014 00:12, Eliot Miranda a écrit : Hi Thierry, On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Thierry Goubier mailto:thierry.goub...@gmail.com>> wrote: There is no "outside" in Sista. It is an image-level optimizer, so you'll be able to interact with it at the same level one interacts w

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] re: Parsing Pharo syntax to C/C++

Le 17/09/2014 00:13, Eliot Miranda a écrit : +100. And Smalltalk is being used in real-time applications already, e.g. semiconductor fab machines. It used to be in all of Tektronix's oscilloscaopes. And I remember a HP network analyser whose GUI was written with Digitalk/V. But this is wor

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Re: The Dilemma: Building a Futuristic GUI for Ephestos

Hi Torsten, On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Hi Eliot, > > Yes - in the past most Smalltalks did not have native widgets and usually > emulated > the L&F. I remember VW on a Sun Sparc with Windows or Mac look. While it > was cool > to run 1:1 on another machine it would

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] re: Parsing Pharo syntax to C/C++

Le 17/09/2014 00:27, Eliot Miranda a écrit : On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Thierry Goubier mailto:thierry.goub...@gmail.com>> wrote: 2014-09-16 14:19 GMT+02:00 kilon alios mailto:kilon.al...@gmail.com>>: Python is a great language why one would use it behind anyone's

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] re: Parsing Pharo syntax to C/C++

Hi Thierry, On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Hi Eliot, > > Le 17/09/2014 00:12, Eliot Miranda a écrit : > >> Hi Thierry, >> >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Thierry Goubier >> mailto:thierry.goub...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> There is no "outside" in Sista. It is an im

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Re: The Dilemma: Building a Futuristic GUI for Ephestos

2014-09-17 14:07 GMT-03:00 Eliot Miranda : >> - tiny and fast VM with a command line and REPL > We're getting there with fast. Tiny needs more definition, but the core > Cog/Spur VM on Mac minus plugins and GUI code is 568k, 506k code, 63k data; > the newspeak VM which has fewer primitives but

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] re: Parsing Pharo syntax to C/C++

Hi Eliot Le 17/09/2014 19:18, Eliot Miranda a écrit : Hi Thierry, Yes, and various dialects have a literal constructor for "compile-time expressions" (I did one for VW) that provide a manual (and hence fragile) way of doing this. As you pointed out this approach breaks when one changes the cod

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Re: The Dilemma: Building a Futuristic GUI for Ephestos

Eliot wrote: >We're getting there with fast.  Tiny needs more definition, but the core >Cog/Spur VM on Mac minus plugins and GUI >code is 568k, 506k code, 63k data; >the newspeak VM which has fewer primitives but support for two bytecode sets >is >453k, 386k code, 68k data.  That includes the in

[Pharo-dev] [Review: 12111] (Date readFrom: '4.2.2013' readStream pattern: 'd.m.yy') ==>> 4 February 2020

In the spirit of Markus’ cleanup please review this suggested fix to date parsing (from november 2013 originally…). I’ve ported the fix forward to 40 (which has the same issue). https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12111/Date-readFrom-4-2-2013-readStream-pattern-d-m-yy-4-February-2020 Cheers, Max

Re: [Pharo-dev] I'm confused about Process>>isTerminated

Hi Eliot On 16.09.2014, at 20:18, Eliot Miranda wrote: > Hi Max, > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Max Leske wrote: > Hi > > As always when I want to check if a process has died I get very confused by > #isTerminated and I’m wondering if I just don’t get how it’s supposed to work > or

Re: [Pharo-dev] I'm confused about Process>>isTerminated

Hi Max, On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Max Leske wrote: > Hi Eliot > > > On 16.09.2014, at 20:18, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > Hi Max, > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Max Leske wrote: > >> Hi >> >> As always when I want to check if a process has died I get very confused >> by #isTerminated

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Bloc?

stepharo wrote > - look at what he is doing > - we try to document the classes > ... How do I start playing with Bloc? After loading the development version into Pharo 3.0 and doing "BlMorphToTestMouseEnterLeave new openInWorld" I get "MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of "activeWor

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Bloc?

On 18 sept. 2014, at 04:44, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > stepharo wrote >> - look at what he is doing >> - we try to document the classes >> ... > > How do I start playing with Bloc? After loading the development version into > Pharo 3.0 and doing "BlMorphToTestMouseEnterLeave new