Re: [Pharo-dev] monkey timeout

2014-10-20 Thread Marcus Denker
I have added a workaround (temporary) to the the RBSentNotImplementedRule to actually not check, this fixed the timeout (but of course the rule needs to be fixed, there is an issue from that already and Yuriy already commented how it will be fixed. On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Nicolai Hess

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0

2014-10-20 Thread jannik laval
Hi Hilaire, Which version of Linux are you using ? Thank you again for your feedback. Here is my comments for your list: - On Linux, keypad does not work >>> Ok, the last build of the vm I use is from 5 month ! I redo it, it should work today. By the way, keypad does not work on pharo-launcher

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] new Pharo Success story

2014-10-20 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:44, stepharo wrote: > > Hi > > we just published a new success story: Pharo at CSOB > >http://pharo.org/success > > And yes we are interested in your sucess stories > > Stef > > PS: big thanks to Tomas and CSOB for letting us making this public. Beautiful! Great

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] new Pharo Success story

2014-10-20 Thread Tudor Girba
+100 Doru On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:44, stepharo wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > we just published a new success story: Pharo at CSOB > > > >http://pharo.org/success > > > > And yes we are interested in your sucess stories > > > >

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-10-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40313 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 9bafe0: 40313

2014-10-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 9bafe0c881abce55b35e9cd3880f44924508ba3f https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/9bafe0c881abce55b35e9cd3880f44924508ba3f Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-10-20 (Mon, 20 Oct 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image Segment semantics and weakness

2014-10-20 Thread stepharo
While I as a big fan of imageSegment and proposed to mariano to work on imageSegment2 (it was the original idea for his phd) he convinced us that imagesegment were not worth their complexity. So why do you want to have imageSegment? Stef On 20/10/14 03:01, Eliot Miranda wrote: Hi All, I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Use Komitter in MC Browser?

2014-10-20 Thread stepharo
I hacked the MC Browser to open up a Changes window along-side my commit dialog. Then I realized we already have this (and a bit more) with Komitter. What if we just plug Komitter into the "Save" operation? We should pay attention that Komitter is sometimes a bit fragile and having string back

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] new Pharo Success story

2014-10-20 Thread Pablo R. Digonzelli
Great! Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com pdigonze...@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 De: "Tudor Girba" Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" CC: "Pharo Development List" Enviados: Lunes,

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo works fine on yosemite

2014-10-20 Thread kilon alios
Just upgrade to Yosemite, Pharo seems to work fine so far. As usually it does not full screen properly with the new green window icon, but it does fullscreen properly when fullscreen is chosen at pharo settings. Unfortunately installing Yosemite has not been a smooth ride. My late 2013 iMac got st

[Pharo-dev] [for testing] speeding up code loading

2014-10-20 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi,  [Object compileSilently: 'foo ^ 1' classified: 'testing'] bench    -- 267 per second    Load from inbox:  SLICE-Issue-14242-Installing-a-method-is-slow-MarcusDenker.3    run bench again ==> 2320 per second.    This will work as long the .changes is small enough so that it uses a normal (not

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec Understandability

2014-10-20 Thread Ralph Boland
> Besides error intractability, there is also a cost to understanding the > system via exploration - a glorious benefit of Morphic. In the past, one > only had to bring up halos on and inspect a button to see how to duplicate > its action. Now, to see what happens when one presses Versionner's "Com

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo works fine on yosemite

2014-10-20 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 20 Oct 2014, at 17:47, kilon alios wrote: > > Just upgrade to Yosemite, Pharo seems to work fine so far. As usually it does > not full screen properly with the new green window icon, but it does > fullscreen properly when fullscreen is chosen at pharo settings. Both Yosemite and the ful

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo works fine on yosemite

2014-10-20 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 20 Oct 2014, at 18:42, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > >> On 20 Oct 2014, at 17:47, kilon alios wrote: >> >> Just upgrade to Yosemite, Pharo seems to work fine so far. As usually it >> does not full screen properly with the new green window icon, but it does >> fullscreen properly whe

Re: [Pharo-dev] [for testing] speeding up code loading

2014-10-20 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-10-20 12:50 GMT-03:00 Marcus Denker : > Hi, > > [Object compileSilently: 'foo ^ 1' classified: 'testing'] bench > > -- 267 per second > > Load from inbox: > SLICE-Issue-14242-Installing-a-method-is-slow-MarcusDenker.3 > > run bench again ==> 2320 per second. > > This will work as long th

Re: [Pharo-dev] [for testing] speeding up code loading

2014-10-20 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 20 Oct 2014, at 19:45, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > > 2014-10-20 12:50 GMT-03:00 Marcus Denker : >> Hi, >> >> [Object compileSilently: 'foo ^ 1' classified: 'testing'] bench >> >> -- 267 per second >> >> Load from inbox: >> SLICE-Issue-14242-Installing-a-method-is-slow-MarcusDenker.3 >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] [for testing] speeding up code loading

2014-10-20 Thread Marcus Denker
On Monday, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:46 pm, Esteban A. Maringolo , wrote: 2014-10-20 12:50 GMT-03:00 Marcus Denker : > Hi, > > [Object compileSilently: 'foo ^ 1' classified: 'testing'] bench > > -- 267 per second > > Load from inbox: > SLICE-Issue-14242-Installing-a-method-is-slow-MarcusDenker.3 > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [for testing] speeding up code loading

2014-10-20 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 20 Oct 2014, at 20:09, Marcus Denker wrote: > > Ceterum censeo: we need to get rid of sources/changes… Now I learned another Latin proverb, nice !

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec Understandability

2014-10-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Ralph Boland wrote > I am not in the habit of using halos, not really sure what they are for. > But your description implies they are quite useful. > What does "bring up halos on and inspect a button to see how to duplicate > its action" mean? Could you please describe in step by step detail. Hi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image Segment semantics and weakness

2014-10-20 Thread stepharo
Sorry for breaking the stream. I could not find the email with thunderbird :( Just for the record, you see what netstyle people did: they use image segment and they had to kill everything (like processes and others) because of possible pointers so after saving a segment the image was basically

Re: [Pharo-dev] Question on Package comments [SO]

2014-10-20 Thread stepharo
Hi nicolai - ideally I would like a small DSL to describe the key design of a package. - then the configuration of the package is the place to put a documentation https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoProjectCatalog/HTML_Report/ - when the configuration is loaded, the fly by help on th

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New Gold Member LabWare

2014-10-20 Thread stepharo
On 17/10/14 17:42, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: Indeed it is. AFAIR Andres Valloud works there. oh yes big big thanks to him.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New Gold Member LabWare

2014-10-20 Thread Pablo R. Digonzelli
+100 Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com pdigonze...@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 - Mensaje original - De: "stepharo" Para: "Pharo Development List" Enviados: Lunes, 20 de Octubre 2014 17:19:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [for testing] speeding up code loading

2014-10-20 Thread Marcus Denker
This is in Pharo4 update #314. On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > Hi, >  [Object compileSilently: 'foo ^ 1' classified: 'testing'] bench >   >  -- 267 per second >   >  Load from inbox: >  SLICE-Issue-14242-Installing-a-method-is-slow-MarcusDenker.3 >   >  run bench again ==

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 3e9067: 40314

2014-10-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 3e906711b6a1c3b127beca11f7924cae7844e03a https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/3e906711b6a1c3b127beca11f7924cae7844e03a Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-10-21 (Tue, 21 Oct 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-10-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40314 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec Understandability

2014-10-20 Thread stepharo
Note that halo implementation sucks! In Bloc alain clean it and he is able to plug halos and package them cleanly. In addition in Bloc he took the decision not to implement for now the direct creation of certain widget because this kind of feature leads to spaghetti dependencies. Stef On 2

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] cea480: 40315

2014-10-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: cea4804b8fefa6b0ae6239807b797fbc59f69bac https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/cea4804b8fefa6b0ae6239807b797fbc59f69bac Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-10-21 (Tue, 21 Oct 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-10-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40315 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Image Segment semantics and weakness

2014-10-20 Thread stepharo
Thanks mariano. This is what I call science in action. You convinced me back then and Fuel is a success. On 21/10/14 03:55, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Just a quick note I would like to share For my PhD, I did investigate ImageSegment very very deeply: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=20