Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4.0 Download options

2015-03-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
> But why would you want to give dev version to a new user? The stable version > (Pharo 3.0) offers full package. If it’s not for a new user, does it belong on the download page? Perhaps a link to another page with a better explanation. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: ht

Re: [Pharo-dev] Color arithmetical operations are broken

2015-03-20 Thread Ben Coman
Do we need to do something for Pharo 4? And what is the simplest/quickest thing that would work - even if it needs revisiting in Pharo 5? cheers -ben On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Aliaksei Syrel wrote: > I would not change the alpha at all. Instead, set alpha 255 in >> setPrivateRed: r green:

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher: Great Tool, Confusing Name

2015-03-20 Thread Ben Coman
I'd really like to do away with the "Local" template folder and on the original remote template indicate that it is cached locally - but I haven't found the time to experiment. cheers -ben On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > There is some kind of "cache". The "local" tem

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4.0 Download options

2015-03-20 Thread Dmitri Zagidulin
Why not let new users try running their code on the unstable in-progress Pharo version? I mean, developers generally know the deal. You either use an older Stable version, or if you can tolerate instability, you develop against a moving target (Pharo 4, in this case) so that it's easier to port, wh

Re: [Pharo-dev] update of pharo by example?

2015-03-20 Thread Dmitri Zagidulin
What's the workflow, to contribute to Updated Pharo By Example? Should people just make PRs against that repo? Looking over some of the other SquareBracketAssociates repos, there seems to be a repository-based workflow? - https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoInProgress for work in prog

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4.0 Download options

2015-03-20 Thread Peter Uhnák
> > The website is for new users, so we should provide something as > usable out of the box as possible. > But why would you want to give dev version to a new user? The stable version (Pharo 3.0) offers full package. Peter

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4.0 Download options

2015-03-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Dmitri Zagidulin wrote > Is there any reason why we don't include the full release in the Download > Pharo 4 link off the main Downloads page? I agree. Any experienced Pharoer is going to use ZeroConf or PharoLauncher anyway. The website is for new users, so we should provide something as usable o

Re: [Pharo-dev] Color arithmetical operations are broken

2015-03-20 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
> > I would not change the alpha at all. Instead, set alpha 255 in > setPrivateRed: r green: g blue: b It makes sense to be consistent. However blindly setting it to 255 is sometimes unexpected too: Color transparent + Color transparent is assume to get Color transparent and not black. Maybe fo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4.0 Download options

2015-03-20 Thread Dmitri Zagidulin
Ah, I see. Is there any way we can link to the latest build from the CI server, though? http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo4.0-win.zip ? That seems to be built automatically by Jenkins. So why not just link to that? On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > My other question still

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4.0 Download options

2015-03-20 Thread Peter Uhnák
> > My other question still stands, then. Is there any reason why we don't > include the full release in the Download Pharo 4 link off the main > Downloads page? > Pharo 4 is not released yet (due in ~10 days); so if you want to download bleeding dev version you probably should know how to get it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4.0 Download options

2015-03-20 Thread Dmitri Zagidulin
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Why not > > $ curl get.pharo.org/40+vm | bash > ? > Ah, I see! I think I didn't scroll down far enough, and didn't see that option. Thank you :) My other question still stands, then. Is there any reason why we don't include the ful

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4.0 Download options

2015-03-20 Thread Peter Uhnák
> > - Am I missing something that's obvious to seasoned Pharo devs? How do you > guys download new versions of Pharo, with sources and everything? > Many (most?) people use Pharo Launcher http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/PharoLauncher > > - Is there any way we can include a full download option (

Re: [Pharo-dev] Color arithmetical operations are broken

2015-03-20 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-03-21 0:19 GMT+01:00 Aliaksei Syrel : > Hi, > > I played with colors and found out, that arithmetical operations with > colors are completely broken. > > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15188/Color-ariphmetical-operations-are-broken > > Result is not a valid Color - just garbage. It happe

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4.0 Download options

2015-03-20 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 21 Mar 2015, at 00:24, Dmitri Zagidulin wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've been working on a project in Pharo 3.0 ( an update to the pharo Riak > database driver, over at https://github.com/SmalltalkZen/phriak ), and I > figured I'd try to see if it works in Pharo 4. > > I went to the Download

[Pharo-dev] Pharo 4.0 Download options

2015-03-20 Thread Dmitri Zagidulin
Hi all, I've been working on a project in Pharo 3.0 ( an update to the pharo Riak database driver, over at https://github.com/SmalltalkZen/phriak ), and I figured I'd try to see if it works in Pharo 4. I went to the Download Pharo page at http://pharo.org/download and saw the 'Development version

[Pharo-dev] Color arithmetical operations are broken

2015-03-20 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
Hi, I played with colors and found out, that arithmetical operations with colors are completely broken. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15188/Color-ariphmetical-operations-are-broken Result is not a valid Color - just garbage. It happens because alpha is not being initialized and stays nil. It

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Grapher charting engine

2015-03-20 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Grapher is indeed nice! Especially now that can get it to give me an SVG rendering with popups etc in my Seaside app. Phil Le 20 mars 2015 22:19, "Alexandre Bergel" a écrit : > Dear all, > > As many of you know, Grapher is a über-cool charting engine, part of > Roassal. > For people who do not

[Pharo-dev] The Grapher charting engine

2015-03-20 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Dear all, As many of you know, Grapher is a über-cool charting engine, part of Roassal. For people who do not know what Grapher is, here is a (compelling we hope) example: Which is obtained by the following script: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | b colors points ds pts dec lb | b := RTGrapher n

Re: [Pharo-dev] Who maintains Aconcagua & Chalten?

2015-03-20 Thread Hernan Wilkinson
Hi Sean, I answer you in the morning, contact me directly if you did not get the answer Hernan. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Hernan probably missed your emails, try to contact him directly. > Done, thanks. > > Cheers, > Sean > > --

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher: Great Tool, Confusing Name

2015-03-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
> There is some kind of "cache". The "local" template (at the top of the right > pane > lists all local (downloaded) templates. I did see that, but my understanding was that we currently have two options: 1. the same image that was last downloaded via the local template 2. and downloading the late

Re: [Pharo-dev] Validation failur ZnImageExampleDelegateTests>>#testDefaultImage

2015-03-20 Thread Nicolai Hess
Is it possible to see the result of the failing test 2015-03-05 10:40 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > All Zn tests that run local servers work like that, using a random port > from a range of 32. > > With fixed ports, we would get many more conflicts because tests and/or CI > jobs are running

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher: Great Tool, Confusing Name

2015-03-20 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-03-20 20:25 GMT+01:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > PharoLauncher is cool!! Once I realized I could specify the image folder > with > "PhLDirectoryBasedImageRepository location: aFileReference", I was very > happy (I won't start the "images don't belong in ApplicationSupport thread > again, promise ;)

Re: [Pharo-dev] LabelModel>>#text: Deprecation

2015-03-20 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 20 Mar 2015, at 20:35, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Nicolai Hess wrote >>> We can use text: I should put it back. >> If so, hurry up! > > It seems like several of the rename issues have been fixed to send #label: > already. I guess we keep it? > Yes, the community is starting to react to

Re: [Pharo-dev] LabelModel>>#text: Deprecation

2015-03-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Nicolai Hess wrote >> We can use text: I should put it back. > If so, hurry up! It seems like several of the rename issues have been fixed to send #label: already. I guess we keep it? - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/LabelModel-text-Deprecation-tp48094

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher: Great Tool, Confusing Name

2015-03-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sean P. DeNigris wrote > One other suggestion Also the matrix build hasn't run in almost a month and the 4.0, stable Mac image is an out-of-date #40511 image. I kicked off the build manually. Let's see what happens... - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Ph

[Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher: Great Tool, Confusing Name

2015-03-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
PharoLauncher is cool!! Once I realized I could specify the image folder with "PhLDirectoryBasedImageRepository location: aFileReference", I was very happy (I won't start the "images don't belong in ApplicationSupport thread again, promise ;)). There is however one thing that I think could be very

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] 203 issues tagged tagged for Pharo4

2015-03-20 Thread Marcus Denker
52. Much better! some are even already fixed (but not integrated) so we will be below 50 soon. > On 20 Mar 2015, at 10:11, Marcus Denker wrote: > > 68 > >> On 19 Mar 2015, at 08:50, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >> 88. >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/103/4-0-All >> > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Duration year

2015-03-20 Thread Richard Sargent
Maximiliano Taborda wrote > Hi all. > > The same examples using Chaltén: > February twentyninth, 2012 next: 1 yearMeasure. "=> February 28th, > 2013" This I don't get. Why would + 1 day + 1 year ever not be March 1st? ~75% of the time it would be, but ~25% it would be a day less? >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] dc5304: 40570

2015-03-20 Thread Ben Coman
I'd like to see it in Pharo 5. cheers -ben On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:23 AM, stepharo wrote: > We should rollback this change. > I did it and I will keep it for me. > > Stef > > > Le 20/3/15 17:40, Ben Coman a écrit : > > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Sean P. DeNigris > wrote: > >> GitH

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] dc5304: 40570

2015-03-20 Thread stepharo
We should rollback this change. I did it and I will keep it for me. Stef Le 20/3/15 17:40, Ben Coman a écrit : On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Sean P. DeNigris mailto:s...@clipperadams.com>> wrote: GitHub wrote > 14890 Browsing a different class should select by default the prev

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2015-03-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40571 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 93eb5c: 40571

2015-03-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 93eb5ced08fb721a2448d25cdb6264468e083569 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/93eb5ced08fb721a2448d25cdb6264468e083569 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2015-03-20 (Fri, 20 Mar 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] dc5304: 40570

2015-03-20 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > GitHub wrote > > 14890 Browsing a different class should select by default the previously > > browsed method > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14890 > > Ugh. This breaks my workflow. I often click the "Class-side" checkbox to >

[Pharo-dev] Adding a class error, 40570

2015-03-20 Thread stephan
When trying to run the Coral tests in Pharo 4, one of the tests raises an error when adding a class MNU receiver of "asNautilusSelection" is nil PPCoralCompilerTest>>testAccessIV "self debug: #testAccessIV" | c | self parse: '[ Object < #CoralTestC1 iv: ''bob'' ]'

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] dc5304: 40570

2015-03-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
GitHub wrote > 14890 Browsing a different class should select by default the previously > browsed method > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14890 Ugh. This breaks my workflow. I often click the "Class-side" checkbox to get to the class template, but now it keeps the method selected. At firs

Re: [Pharo-dev] Who maintains Aconcagua & Chalten?

2015-03-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
> Hernan probably missed your emails, try to contact him directly. Done, thanks. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Who-maintains-Aconcagua-Chalten-tp4813575p4813594.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Who maintains Aconcagua & Chalten?

2015-03-20 Thread Luc Fabresse
Hernan probably missed your emails, try to contact him directly. #Luc 2015-03-20 13:26 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano : > that was developed by Hernan Wilkinson & trouppe… no idea if they keep > maintaining it. > > Esteban > > > On 20 Mar 2015, at 13:22, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > > If the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Who maintains Aconcagua & Chalten?

2015-03-20 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
that was developed by Hernan Wilkinson & trouppe… no idea if they keep maintaining it. Esteban > On 20 Mar 2015, at 13:22, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > If there is no response, copy/fork to StHub/github ? > >> On 20 Mar 2015, at 13:03, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >> >> Any idea who maintai

Re: [Pharo-dev] Who maintains Aconcagua & Chalten?

2015-03-20 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
If there is no response, copy/fork to StHub/github ? > On 20 Mar 2015, at 13:03, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Any idea who maintains them and where to report issues? I have some > question/fixes, some of which I posted to Pharo Users... Thanks. > > > > - > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this m

[Pharo-dev] Who maintains Aconcagua & Chalten?

2015-03-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Any idea who maintains them and where to report issues? I have some question/fixes, some of which I posted to Pharo Users... Thanks. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Who-maintains-Aconcagua-Chalten-tp4813575.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers

Re: [Pharo-dev] Number>>#percent

2015-03-20 Thread Tudor Girba
Thank you. Doru On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Sean P. DeNigris wrote > > Issue 15165: Number>>#percent shouldn't force to Float > > Integrated into 4.0. Thanks everyone. > > > > - > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Numb

Re: [Pharo-dev] Number>>#percent

2015-03-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sean P. DeNigris wrote > Issue 15165: Number>>#percent shouldn't force to Float Integrated into 4.0. Thanks everyone. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Number-percent-tp4805988p4813569.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2015-03-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40570 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] dc5304: 40570

2015-03-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: dc53040c88d7e23cce1912ebcd27bf76804f2dad https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/dc53040c88d7e23cce1912ebcd27bf76804f2dad Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2015-03-20 (Fri, 20 Mar 2015

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] af97f8: 40569

2015-03-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: af97f84ad7e3e556e091805872a3ea5697ec8278 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/af97f84ad7e3e556e091805872a3ea5697ec8278 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2015-03-20 (Fri, 20 Mar 2015

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2015-03-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40569 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 585ac7: 40568

2015-03-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 585ac7b769383af76fa5e9580d109760cbba7148 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/585ac7b769383af76fa5e9580d109760cbba7148 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2015-03-20 (Fri, 20 Mar 2015

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2015-03-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40568 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] 203 issues tagged tagged for Pharo4

2015-03-20 Thread Marcus Denker
68 > On 19 Mar 2015, at 08:50, Marcus Denker wrote: > > 88. > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/103/4-0-All >