Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo bootstrap

2016-01-20 Thread Christophe Demarey
Hi Pavel, Le 19 janv. 2016 à 19:53, Pavel Krivanek a écrit : > Hi, > > amazing! Do you have any idea how to speed up it? The bootstrap process is > now running on my machine about one and half hour and it is still far from > finish. The process is indeed far too long (takes around 10 hours)

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2016-01-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/50536 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 42addc: 50536

2016-01-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/5.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 42addc0bdb04623c4fc7545e67624e7de2ddacfe https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/42addc0bdb04623c4fc7545e67624e7de2ddacfe Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2016-01-20 (Wed, 20 Jan 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter suggestions

2016-01-20 Thread David Allouche
Since you asked to keep challenging… Preamble: Sorry, I did one of those long messages again. I hope I am not annoying people with that. > On 19 Jan 2016, at 22:40, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Jan 19, 2016, at 9:18 PM, stepharo wrote: >> >> >> >> Le 19/1/16 20:25, David Allouche a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter suggestions

2016-01-20 Thread David Allouche
> On 20 Jan 2016, at 10:39, David Allouche wrote: > > And some suggestion for all lists: Another one: Esc should close Spotter. I see Cmd-W does that, but Spotter is not a "normal" window, it is an incremental search popup. Thanks.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter suggestions

2016-01-20 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 20/01/2016 10:48, David Allouche a écrit : On 20 Jan 2016, at 10:39, David Allouche mailto:da...@allouche.net>> wrote: And some suggestion for all lists: Another one: Esc should close Spotter. That one is nice to have, yes. Thierry I see Cmd-W does that, but Spotter is not a "normal"

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter suggestions

2016-01-20 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
> On 20 Jan 2016, at 10:51, Thierry Goubier wrote: > > Le 20/01/2016 10:48, David Allouche a écrit : >> >>> On 20 Jan 2016, at 10:39, David Allouche >> > wrote: >>> >>> And some suggestion for all lists: >> >> Another one: Esc should close Spotter. > > That one is

Re: [Pharo-dev] spotter: top search for senders and references

2016-01-20 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
> On 19 Jan 2016, at 22:40, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Most people I know use Shift to type an upper case, and we observed that when > people search, they often tend to still use uppercase. Not all, but many. > That is why we put this functionality on Shift. This does not mean that it is > enough

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter suggestions

2016-01-20 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, This is indeed long and I am unable to read this now. It might take a while to get to reply. Cheers, Doru > On Jan 20, 2016, at 10:39 AM, David Allouche wrote: > > Since you asked to keep challenging… > > Preamble: Sorry, I did one of those long messages again. I hope I am not > annoyi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter suggestions

2016-01-20 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, > On Jan 20, 2016, at 10:48 AM, David Allouche wrote: > > >> On 20 Jan 2016, at 10:39, David Allouche wrote: >> >> And some suggestion for all lists: > > Another one: Esc should close Spotter. It does. Doru > I see Cmd-W does that, but Spotter is not a "normal" window, it is an > inc

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter suggestions

2016-01-20 Thread David Allouche
> On 20 Jan 2016, at 11:05, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Jan 20, 2016, at 10:48 AM, David Allouche wrote: >> >> >>> On 20 Jan 2016, at 10:39, David Allouche wrote: >>> >>> And some suggestion for all lists: >> >> Another one: Esc should close Spotter. > > It does. Right. I'm puzzl

Re: [Pharo-dev] another spotter question

2016-01-20 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 at 3:37 AM stepharo wrote: > > Hmm. Thanks for describing this way of working. > > Here is the thing. We observed users working with this, and they all used > predominantly the keyboard. So, we favored keyboard use. This is not an > argument for anything, and it does not mea

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo bootstrap

2016-01-20 Thread Guillermo Polito
> On 20 ene 2016, at 9:08 a.m., Christophe Demarey > wrote: > > Hi Pavel, > > Le 19 janv. 2016 à 19:53, Pavel Krivanek a écrit : > >> Hi, >> >> amazing! Do you have any idea how to speed up it? The bootstrap process is >> now running on my machine about one and half hour and it is still far

Re: [Pharo-dev] another spotter question

2016-01-20 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > +1. Its annoying that it takes two clicks to dive into categories like > "Implementors" (one to click an item under the category to make the arrow > appear, and then another to click on it) when it would only take one if > that arrow for each c

[Pharo-dev] Rubric: spotter with preview leaks some memory

2016-01-20 Thread Nicolai Hess
Open fresh image 50536 Open Spotter, enable preview (cmd+p) search for EllipseMorph dive in instance-methods scroll through the list one item after another. open playground evaluate RubTextLine allInstances size. "553896" case 17421 is related to this, but does not fully solves this. please revi

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] OSSubprocess v0.2.0 release

2016-01-20 Thread Hilaire
Thanks, The link miss instructions about what it is and how to load it (load script and Pharo version) Thanks Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rubric: spotter with preview leaks some memory

2016-01-20 Thread Andrei Chis
Tried it in the last latest image and if I execute before #garbageCollect I just get 4 instances. Smalltalk garbageCollect. RubTextLine allInstances size "4" Now indeed if I browse the same class in nautilus I get a much smaller number of RubTextLine instances On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Ni

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] OSSubprocess v0.2.0 release

2016-01-20 Thread Hilaire
https://github.com/marianopeck/OSSubprocess/ -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2016-01-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/50537 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] f76739: 50537

2016-01-20 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/5.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: f76739bfe2d9b1fd9be13cc23587da37c1a5088c https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/f76739bfe2d9b1fd9be13cc23587da37c1a5088c Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2016-01-20 (Wed, 20 Jan 2016

[Pharo-dev] Use cases for methods with optional parameters

2016-01-20 Thread Damien Cassou
Hi, I would like to study the impact of adding optional parameters to keyword methods in Pharo. The goal of optional parameters is to facilitate the implementation of methods where some parameters are optional. For example, Seaside has: WAComponent>>request: aRequestString label: aLabelString

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo bootstrap

2016-01-20 Thread Peter H. Meadows via Pharo-dev
--- Begin Message --- Cool. Any chance someone can explain for beginners to understand what's going on here? Why is cleaning the image not as simple as running it and deleting any object that wasn't used? (Thanks in advance) On 20 January 2016 at 12:52, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Well, there is n

[Pharo-dev] [ANN][Invite] Pharo Sprint 29 Jan

2016-01-20 Thread marcus . denker
We will organize a Pharo sprint / Moose dojo Friday, 11th September, starting at 10:00am. (Local Time Lille). It will be at the Inria Lille, Building B, third floor (RMoD offices) and at the University of Chile, Santiago de Chile. Remotely, you can join us on Slack or the IRC channel #pharo on i

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN][Invite] Pharo Sprint 29 Jan

2016-01-20 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 20 Jan 2016, at 16:37, marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: > > > We will organize a Pharo sprint / Moose dojo Friday, 11th September, starting > at This is Friday, 29 Jan (next week). > 10:00am. (Local Time Lille). > > It will be at the Inria Lille, Building B, third floor (RMoD offi

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo bootstrap

2016-01-20 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Peter H. Meadows via Pharo-dev < pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: "Peter H. Meadows" > To: Pharo Development List > Cc: > Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 15:17:59 + > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo bootstrap

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rubric: spotter with preview leaks some memory

2016-01-20 Thread Nicolai Hess
2016-01-20 14:47 GMT+01:00 Andrei Chis : > Tried it in the last latest image and if I execute before #garbageCollect > I just get 4 instances. > > Smalltalk garbageCollect. > RubTextLine allInstances size "4" > > Now indeed if I browse the same class in nautilus I get a much smaller > number of Ru

Re: [Pharo-dev] How do you normally merge Git branches with Metadata-less GitFileTree?

2016-01-20 Thread Damien Pollet
Hm. I saved code in a clone of Mariano's project, and a bunch of metadata files were created. Did I miss a step on configuring the repo so it's metadataless ? On 16 January 2016 at 15:18, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > OK, thanks Thierry. > > BTW, thanks for all the help you have been giving me

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap

2016-01-20 Thread Craig Latta
Hi all-- Phil writes: > The point is not to clean but to start with an empty object engine and > fill it in with the minimum required core. Currently, the image is > the result of an evolutionary process and rebuilding it from zero was > not possible. Another approach is to modify the

Re: [Pharo-dev] How do you normally merge Git branches with Metadata-less GitFileTree?

2016-01-20 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Damien, I think the "metadata-less" name is a bit wrong. I think you did it correct. The metadataless is that only SOME of the metadata is ignored, such as "version" and I don't remember what else. I am comparing the HEAD of your clone with mine and we seem to have the same .filetree and .json so I

Re: [Pharo-dev] How do you normally merge Git branches with Metadata-less GitFileTree?

2016-01-20 Thread Damien Pollet
So ? I put *.methodProperties in .gitignore ? What about .gitattributes for the merge driver ? On 20 January 2016 at 20:19, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Damien, I think the "metadata-less" name is a bit wrong. I think you did > it correct. > The metadataless is that only SOME of the metadata i

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap

2016-01-20 Thread Brad Selfridge
Has anyone looked at the VASmalltalk Envy Packager. It let's one decide whether you want to package a headless or UI image. It then allows one to define packaging instructions, that are saved with the new application), that get fed into the packager. The instructions define prerequisite apps, un-re

Re: [Pharo-dev] How do you normally merge Git branches with Metadata-less GitFileTree?

2016-01-20 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
No, something wrong is happening. GitFileTree should have NOT generated neither "version" nor "methodProperties" files. :( On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Damien Pollet wrote: > So ? I put *.methodProperties in .gitignore ? > What about .gitattributes for the merge driver ? > > On 20 January 20

Re: [Pharo-dev] How do you normally merge Git branches with Metadata-less GitFileTree?

2016-01-20 Thread Damien Pollet
I rebuilt the image, then reloaded OSSubprocess from my own clone, on top of the one loaded by GitFileTree no metadata reappeared (so far…) On 20 January 2016 at 20:45, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > No, something wrong is happening. GitFileTree should have NOT generated > neither "version" nor

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] OSSubprocess v0.2.0 release

2016-01-20 Thread stepharo
Mariano your doc is gorgeous. I'm reading it and I will do a pull request with some typos! Le 20/1/16 02:06, Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit : Hi guys, I am happy to announce OSSubprocess v0.2.0. You can see the changelog here: https://github.com/marianopeck/OSSubprocess/releases/tag/v0.2.0 Su

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] OSSubprocess v0.2.0 release

2016-01-20 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:11 PM, stepharo wrote: > Mariano your doc is gorgeous. > > I'm reading it and I will do a pull request with some typos! > > Thanks! That will be very much appreciated. Honestly, I could not spend much time in improving the "grammar / english" text of the doc. So any impr

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] OSSubprocess v0.2.0 release

2016-01-20 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Stef, I made quite a re-organization of the readme..basically moved around a couple of sections. I am working on the dev branch. If you already started, don't worry, make the PR and I merge it. If you did NOT yet started, then start from the dev branch :) BTW, this is how it looks the new readme

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rubric: spotter with preview leaks some memory

2016-01-20 Thread Nicolai Hess
2016-01-20 19:18 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess : > > > 2016-01-20 14:47 GMT+01:00 Andrei Chis : > >> Tried it in the last latest image and if I execute before #garbageCollect >> I just get 4 instances. >> >> Smalltalk garbageCollect. >> RubTextLine allInstances size "4" >> >> Now indeed if I browse the s

[Pharo-dev] Rationale for RGClassDefinition>>definition?

2016-01-20 Thread Stephan Eggermont
is defined as ^ self realClass definition instead of ^self definitionSource and not two levels up at RGBehaviorDescription to make it work for MetaClass and Traits. Why is that? Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] How do you normally merge Git branches with Metadata-less GitFileTree?

2016-01-20 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Damien, Le 20/01/2016 20:09, Damien Pollet a écrit : Hm. I saved code in a clone of Mariano's project, and a bunch of metadata files were created. Did I miss a step on configuring the repo so it's metadataless ? If you save with a version of GitFileTree which hasn't the metadata-less forma

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rationale for RGClassDefinition>>definition?

2016-01-20 Thread Nicolai Hess
I don't know why it was defined like that. But for issue 17404 I changed that. Am 21.01.2016 12:15 vorm. schrieb "Stephan Eggermont" : > is defined as > ^ self realClass definition > instead of > ^self definitionSource > and not two levels up at RGBehaviorDescription > to make it w

[Pharo-dev] Cleaning Phao topics

2016-01-20 Thread stepharo
Hi I will go over Pharo topics on github and also clean and sync the file on the Pharo web site and I will clean the topics. I will make a list with the ones that are not clear with no mentors in case some people want to rescue them but this list should be much better and I will clean it with