Re: [Pharo-dev] Cannot use Zinc in Pharo7 anymore

2018-11-02 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
NorbertHartl wrote > In order to make myself independent I fork the projects I consider > unstable and use the fork in our product. This way I have control when > there is something updated. This could also be a good way for pharo. I was thinking the same. This is also what I do. My goal is *never

[Pharo-dev] [squeakland] strategies and tools for a comeback of Smalltalk using Scratch as entrance

2018-11-02 Thread Bernhard Höfner
Hello Stephane and Jecel, thank your for your welcome. Before I start to explain my thought and ideas I want want to write short about my background. I work with ST80 since 1990. After a computer kid career since mid 1970th with Basic, Machine language, Assembler, FORTH and Pascal I ended up wit

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cannot use Zinc in Pharo7 anymore

2018-11-02 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 02.11.2018 um 12:23 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > > >> On 2 Nov 2018, at 12:01, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >> Hi >> >>> Am 02.11.2018 um 11:15 schrieb Stephane Ducasse : >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Pay attention the following email is not nice and politically correct >>> but it is importan

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cannot use Zinc in Pharo7 anymore

2018-11-02 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 2 Nov 2018, at 12:01, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Hi > >> Am 02.11.2018 um 11:15 schrieb Stephane Ducasse : >> >> Hi >> >> Pay attention the following email is not nice and politically correct >> but it is important for the speed of improvements in Pharo. >> > thanks for the disclaimer.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cannot use Zinc in Pharo7 anymore

2018-11-02 Thread Norbert Hartl
Hi > Am 02.11.2018 um 11:15 schrieb Stephane Ducasse : > > Hi > > Pay attention the following email is not nice and politically correct > but it is important for the speed of improvements in Pharo. > thanks for the disclaimer. It is important. I copy that because mine might be not political co

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cannot use Zinc in Pharo7 anymore

2018-11-02 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Pay attention the following email is not nice and politically correct but it is important for the speed of improvements in Pharo. I think that we are doing our best when dealing with subproject code. Now if we are forced to publish each little changes on each subproject and wait that something

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cannot use Zinc in Pharo7 anymore

2018-11-02 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 02.11.2018 um 00:13 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > > >> On 1 Nov 2018, at 19:50, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >> Norbert, >> >>> On 1 Nov 2018, at 18:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> >>> I was planning on getting all changes to Zn/Zdc from pharo 7 back upstream >>> (and

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cannot use Zinc in Pharo7 anymore

2018-11-02 Thread Norbert Hartl
Hi, > Am 02.11.2018 um 00:13 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > > >> On 1 Nov 2018, at 19:50, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >> Norbert, >> >>> On 1 Nov 2018, at 18:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> >>> I was planning on getting all changes to Zn/Zdc from pharo 7 back upstream >>> (