Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-05 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:45 AM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Phil, On 05 Mar 2015, at 11:44, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Images are starting slow, that's my experience. Here, a Pharo3 on Windows

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-05 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Le 5 mars 2015 22:54, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com a écrit : On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:45 AM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Phil, On 05 Mar 2015, at 11:44, p...@highoctane.be wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-05 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:08 PM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: Le 4 mars 2015 23:08, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl a écrit : On 04/03/15 14:19, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Interesting but not

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-05 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Phil, On 05 Mar 2015, at 11:44, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Images are starting slow, that's my experience. Here, a Pharo3 on Windows with quite a bunch of things in it takes six seconds to load on first launch and

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-05 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Phil, On 05 Mar 2015, at 11:44, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Images are starting slow, that's my experience. Here, a Pharo3 on Windows with quite a bunch of things in it takes six seconds to load on first launch and three after that. And that's on a i7 4770K clocked 3.85GHz with SSD drives.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:08 PM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: Le 4 mars 2015 23:08, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl a écrit : On 04/03/15 14:19, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Interesting but not sure I'd like to have images going through decompression everytime I spin

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-04 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 04/03/15 14:19, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Interesting but not sure I'd like to have images going through decompression everytime I spin them up. Especially if there are a lot of the in a server. 2GB/s is twice as fast as you can get from a fast SSD atm. And as that is per core, that puts a

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-04 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Le 4 mars 2015 23:08, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl a écrit : On 04/03/15 14:19, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Interesting but not sure I'd like to have images going through decompression everytime I spin them up. Especially if there are a lot of the in a server. 2GB/s is twice as fast

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-04 Thread Andrei Chis
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2015-03-03 15:14 GMT+01:00 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr: On 03 Mar 2015, at 08:06, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 02 Mar 2015, at 18:29, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Other

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-04 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Le 4 mars 2015 08:51, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr a écrit : On 03 Mar 2015, at 10:20, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Size: 22.9MB (== 21.8 MiB, people obsessed with memory size tend to think binary). Another ~150KB savings for review:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-04 Thread Marcus Denker
Ok, this is now in and the image is now 22.7MB. with all examples, tests, tutorials, ConfigurationOf, Metacello... Looks like we'll be able to start boasting about that... It is a first step... There is still a lot of duplicated and dead code, for example. But aside from that: We

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-04 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Ok, this is now in and the image is now 22.7MB. with all examples, tests, tutorials, ConfigurationOf, Metacello... Looks like we'll be able to start boasting about that... It is a first step... There is

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-04 Thread Marcus Denker
On 04 Mar 2015, at 14:19, p...@highoctane.be wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Ok, this is now in and the image is now 22.7MB. with all examples, tests, tutorials, ConfigurationOf, Metacello... Looks like we'll be able to start

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-04 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 04/03/2015 14:29, Marcus Denker a écrit : On 04 Mar 2015, at 14:19, p...@highoctane.be mailto:p...@highoctane.be wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Ok, this is now in and the image is now 22.7MB. with all

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-04 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 04.03.2015 um 14:19 schrieb p...@highoctane.be: On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Ok, this is now in and the image is now 22.7MB. with all examples, tests, tutorials, ConfigurationOf, Metacello... Looks

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-04 Thread Marcus Denker
As I said: it decompresses with 2GB/second. How much slower would the startup be for a 22MB image? (The idea would be to only do that for small images) To quote https://code.google.com/p/lz4/ “…. extremely fast decoder, with speed in multiple GB/s per core, typically reaching RAM

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On 03 Mar 2015, at 15:30, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2015-03-03 15:14 GMT+01:00 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr: On 03 Mar 2015, at 08:06, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 02 Mar 2015, at

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On 03 Mar 2015, at 10:20, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Size: 22.9MB (== 21.8 MiB, people obsessed with memory size tend to think binary). Another ~150KB savings for review:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-03 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-03-03 15:14 GMT+01:00 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr: On 03 Mar 2015, at 08:06, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 02 Mar 2015, at 18:29, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Other things TODO to make it even smaller: - Hunt down that one GTPlayground

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On 03 Mar 2015, at 08:06, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 02 Mar 2015, at 18:29, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Other things TODO to make it even smaller: - Hunt down that one GTPlayground instance that is hanging around

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-03 Thread Marcus Denker
Size: 22.9MB (== 21.8 MiB, people obsessed with memory size tend to think binary). Another ~150KB savings for review: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15032/ScriptLoader-does-not-need-to-log-the-change-description

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-02 Thread Marcus Denker
On 02 Mar 2015, at 18:29, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Other things TODO to make it even smaller: - Hunt down that one GTPlayground instance that is hanging around This is *strange*. I was able to get it down to 1 Smalltalk garbageCollect. Smalltalk garbageCollect.

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-02 Thread Marcus Denker
Wow! For the download of 40524, the image is 24.2, opening it and saving it gets that down to 23.2MB.This is more than 10MB smaller than a week ago. Other things TODO to make it even smaller: - Hunt down that one GTPlayground instance that is hanging around - fix class annitations to not

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-02 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:43, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Wow! For the download of 40524, the image is 24.2, opening it and saving it gets that down to 23.2MB.This is more than 10MB smaller than a week ago. Other things TODO to make it even smaller: - Hunt down that

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-02 Thread Marcus Denker
On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:58, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:49, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:47, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:43, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-02 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:49, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:47, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com mailto:esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:43, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Wow! For

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-02 Thread Marcus Denker
On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:47, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:43, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Wow! For the download of 40524, the image is 24.2, opening it and saving it gets that down to 23.2MB.This is

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-02 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:49, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:47, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:43, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Wow! For the download of 40524, the image is 24.2, opening it and

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-02 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:43, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Wow! For the download of 40524, the image is 24.2, opening it and saving it gets that down to 23.2MB.This is more than 10MB smaller than a week ago. Other things TODO to make it even smaller: - Hunt down that

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-02 Thread Tudor Girba
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 02 Mar 2015, at 16:43, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Wow! For the download of 40524, the image is 24.2, opening it and saving it gets that down to 23.2MB.This is more than 10MB smaller than a

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Image size now 23.2MB

2015-03-02 Thread Marcus Denker
Other things TODO to make it even smaller: - Hunt down that one GTPlayground instance that is hanging around - fix class annitations to not allocate 4000 empty dictionaries: