Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-22 Thread Tudor Girba
Indeed, beautiful is indeed a good word to describe this! Doru > On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > >> On 22 Dec 2016, at 20:21, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >> >> On 21/12/16 17:34, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Berlin_attack >>>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-22 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 22 Dec 2016, at 20:21, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > > On 21/12/16 17:34, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Berlin_attack >> >> It is really sad that these things happen, that so many innocent >> people are killed and hurt. It makes me even more sad that I see

Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-22 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 21/12/16 17:34, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Berlin_attack It is really sad that these things happen, that so many innocent people are killed and hurt. It makes me even more sad that I seem to be getting used to this, that should not be the case, at all. M

Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-22 Thread Brad
Please, can we keep this kind discussion off of this board. If you want to discuss then please email each other directly or find another venue. Brad Selfridge > On Dec 22, 2016, at 9:24 AM, "p...@highoctane.be" wrote: > > Truth be told, terrorists are no match for the Snow White people. > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-22 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Truth be told, terrorists are no match for the Snow White people. I am more afraid of groups like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Zetas than of terrorists. First, these groups are better organized, have unlimited funding, and generally walk the talk. And do not need to make that constant noise

Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-22 Thread p...@highoctane.be
This is perfectly relevant to Pharo, given we have Grafoscopio http://mutabit.com/grafoscopio/index.en.html and have the tooling necessary to produce the maps with a toolchain owned and made by the people. That we should move this to Pharo-Users, yep. At the bottom of the Grafoscopio page: lots

Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-22 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 1:21 PM Peter Uhnak wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:20:36AM +, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > To talk about regression is to not be aware of how extremely lucky and > > privileged we are to live in a time that experts call "the long peace" . > > Never in the recorded

Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-22 Thread Peter Uhnak
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:48:28AM +, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > I don't see anywhere me mentioning my support for a political party or > ideology or even mention politics at all. > > You must have a very abstract definition of "politics". Rather you have a very narrow definition of politics.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-22 Thread Peter Uhnak
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:20:36AM +, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > To talk about regression is to not be aware of how extremely lucky and > privileged we are to live in a time that experts call "the long peace" . > Never in the recorded human history there were so few wars worldwide and as > much

Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-22 Thread Mark Bestley
Well it is definitely not about Pharo and it is politics whic is (from Greek: πολιτικός politikos, definition "of, for, or relating to citizens") Mark On 22/12/2016 10:48, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: I don't see anywhere me mentioning my support for a political party or ideology or even ment

Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-22 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I don't see anywhere me mentioning my support for a political party or ideology or even mention politics at all. You must have a very abstract definition of "politics". Funny thing is that you could not quote the most inappropriate case because I am completely against any form of politics includi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-22 Thread Norbert Hartl
I don't think this list is the proper place for discussing politics. So can we please not do it? thanks, Norbert > Am 22.12.2016 um 11:20 schrieb Dimitris Chloupis : > > I completely agree with you Phil, the real tragedy is this Berlin tragedy > will be the excuse to funnel billion of euros i

Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-22 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I completely agree with you Phil, the real tragedy is this Berlin tragedy will be the excuse to funnel billion of euros into a war that will bring zero results , billions that could be invested not only to save 30 or even a thousand lives but millions of lives. To talk about regression is to not b

Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-21 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Regression? Consider that 1 human on 5 is under the poverty line vs 1 on 2 not so many years ago and that a large percentage of the human population has been schooled in elementary matters (again, not the case not so far in the past). That is a massive improvement! Despite terrorist casualties, w

Re: [Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-21 Thread stepharong
Indeed, immensely sad. Humanity is under regression. When you see that in Mali they destroyed the oldest world library. What sadden me the most is that in case of attacks in France, these attacks were made by brainwashed french citezen against french citizen contrary to what ugly "politician" wo

[Pharo-dev] Berlin 2016-12-19

2016-12-21 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Berlin_attack It is really sad that these things happen, that so many innocent people are killed and hurt. It makes me even more sad that I seem to be getting used to this, that should not be the case, at all. Sven