Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour vs Spec (was: towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger))

2014-01-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Doru You know well that Glamour has a component model that it not plain smalltalk model. So why are you telling me I do not know what? Now you also know that Glamour overuse blocks with multiple optional block arguments where the order is important. So I do not undersand why you are saying

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour vs Spec (was: towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger))

2014-01-02 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Stef, Glamour does not overuse blocks any more than any caller to cull: does it. And if you look closely now, you will see that the amount of arguments have decreased significantly (you do not have to repeat the objects that are passed in by the transmission for every block). But, blocks are

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour vs Spec (was: towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger))

2014-01-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 02 Jan 2014, at 14:40, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi Stef, Glamour does not overuse blocks any more than any caller to cull: does it. And if you look closely now, you will see that the amount of arguments have decreased significantly good to know (you do not have to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour vs Spec (was: towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger))

2014-01-02 Thread Alexandre Bergel
I think that one example Stef has in mind, is the following: GLMCompositePresentation new with: [ :a | a list display: [ :input | 1 to: input ]; act: [ :list | self halt ] entitled: 'Plip' ]; openOn: 42 what is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour vs Spec (was: towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger))

2014-01-02 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Stef, On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.frwrote: On 02 Jan 2014, at 14:40, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi Stef, Glamour does not overuse blocks any more than any caller to cull: does it. And if you look closely now, you will see that

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour vs Spec (was: towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger))

2014-01-01 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.frwrote: On 01 Jan 2014, at 15:02, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: The point I apparently failed to make is that I miss the abstraction above the widget level. With Spec you have the same as in