Re: [Pharo-dev] UX problem in debugger

2014-03-04 Thread btc
Benjamin wrote: On 04 Mar 2014, at 11:15, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: A simple, quick solution would be to do an #inform: telling what was written where. In Pharo this then becomes a growl like non-obstrusive thing. Sounds more like a hack than a solution :)

Re: [Pharo-dev] UX problem in debugger

2014-03-04 Thread Benjamin
On 04 Mar 2014, at 11:15, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > A simple, quick solution would be to do an #inform: telling what was written > where. In Pharo this then becomes a growl like non-obstrusive thing. Sounds more like a hack than a solution :) Ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] UX problem in debugger

2014-03-04 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
A simple, quick solution would be to do an #inform: telling what was written where. In Pharo this then becomes a growl like non-obstrusive thing. On 04 Mar 2014, at 10:36, Jan Vrany wrote: > Hi Max, > > thanks, I already found it, remembering that the same UX flaw for > "File out" is there eve

Re: [Pharo-dev] UX problem in debugger

2014-03-04 Thread Max Leske
On 04.03.2014, at 10:36, Jan Vrany wrote: > Hi Max, > > thanks, I already found it, remembering that the same UX flaw for > "File out" is there ever since Squeak days. > > > Files are saved to the image directory as “Debugger…” > > The real question here is: How should I know? I was merely sa

Re: [Pharo-dev] UX problem in debugger

2014-03-04 Thread Jan Vrany
Hi Max, thanks, I already found it, remembering that the same UX flaw for "File out" is there ever since Squeak days. > Files are saved to the image directory as “Debugger…” The real question here is: How should I know? I was merely saying that usability/UX of tools is, say, poor (this is not t

Re: [Pharo-dev] UX problem in debugger

2014-03-04 Thread Max Leske
If there’s no file then there was probably an exception. Try again with the latest Fuel version (hasn’t been integrated into 3.0 yet). Files are saved to the image directory as “Debugger…” Cheers, Max On 04.03.2014, at 00:49, Jan Vrany wrote: > Hi, > > Just a comment on user interface: > I f

Re: [Pharo-dev] UX problem in debugger

2014-03-03 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
+1 (for Nautilus fileout) Esteban A. Maringolo 2014-03-03 20:49 GMT-03:00 Jan Vrany : > Hi, > > Just a comment on user interface: > I found a bug (#13035) and wanted to attach fueled stacktrace to report. > So I selected "Fuel out Stack". Oops, nothing happened. My first reaction > was "aha, an

[Pharo-dev] UX problem in debugger

2014-03-03 Thread Jan Vrany
Hi, Just a comment on user interface: I found a bug (#13035) and wanted to attach fueled stacktrace to report. So I selected "Fuel out Stack". Oops, nothing happened. My first reaction was "aha, another bug". What one would expect is a file dialog asking where do I want to save the file. Or a