Re: [Pharo-dev] Executive Programming

2018-04-10 Thread Ben Coman
On 11 April 2018 at 02:55, askoh wrote: > Ben: > > I have been thinking along the same lines. > Smalltalk is my PersonalOS. > Nice idea, but its a long step beyond what I had in mind. I don't expect an executive to be using Pharo daily. Their daily time is better spent elsewhere. I expect the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Executive Programming

2018-04-10 Thread Ben Coman
s case we could model it and have a DSL > (pharo) to script it. > > Stef > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 8:36 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > > This article about the "Mining Industry's Impending Digital > Metamorphosis" > > https://medium.com/@CORE_Innovation/mini

Re: [Pharo-dev] help wanted: normalising LF on tonel for Pharo project

2018-04-11 Thread Ben Coman
On 11 April 2018 at 05:05, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > > I’ve been wondering how to better fix the problem of having windows and > linux/macOS people contributing and the fact that files are written in > their native system format (crlf windows, lf for the rest of the world). > > > I dig

Re: [Pharo-dev] help wanted: normalising LF on tonel for Pharo project

2018-04-11 Thread Ben Coman
On 12 April 2018 at 01:47, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Hi Ben, > > Le 11/04/2018 à 16:37, Ben Coman a écrit : > >> >> >> On 11 April 2018 at 05:05, Esteban Lorenzano > <mailto:esteba...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Changed #atEnd primitive - #atEnd vs #next returning nil

2018-04-11 Thread Ben Coman
On 12 April 2018 at 04:25, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > > On 11 Apr 2018, at 21:44, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: > > > > I did not know about the NeoConsole. Nice because I wanted to build a > > little REPL for my minilanguage implementation. > > You are of course welcome to look at it. > But

Re: [Pharo-dev] help wanted: normalising LF on tonel for Pharo project

2018-04-11 Thread Ben Coman
On 12 April 2018 at 12:39, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Le 12/04/2018 à 03:54, Ben Coman a écrit : > >> >> I was thinking that a smalltalk-implemented merge algorithm would only be >> used for the Smalltal/Tonel code, >> not for any other files. And maybe, when a me

[Pharo-dev] request Calypso added as a "project" in Fogbugz

2018-04-13 Thread Ben Coman
Can Calypso be added as a "project" in Fogbugz? I went to create an issue but could not find an appropriate place to file it under. As a backup I add an issue to the github tracker... https://github.com/dionisiydk/Calypso/issues/235 However I have some concerns about scattering Issues away from F

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [TechTalk] April 12: GIT with Iceberg

2018-04-13 Thread Ben Coman
On 13 April 2018 at 21:14, Marcus Denker wrote: > > > On 13 Apr 2018, at 15:04, Andrei Stebakov wrote: > > Can you make the video available online? > > > https://youtu.be/A9H8jsSnBKM > I like the new "New Repo", particularly additional of GitHub alternative (not that I use them, but options is

Re: [Pharo-dev] request Calypso added as a "project" in Fogbugz

2018-04-13 Thread Ben Coman
On 13 April 2018 at 21:24, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Ben Coman wrote > > However I have some concerns about scattering Issues away from Fogbugz > > since this makes it harder to get an overview of outstanding issues > > Point taken, but: > - IIUC we will be soon movin

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [TechTalk] April 12: GIT with Iceberg

2018-04-13 Thread Ben Coman
On 14 April 2018 at 01:10, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > >> >> >> On 13 April 2018 at 23:15, Alistair Grant wrote: >> >>> On 13 April 2018 at 17:07, Cyril Ferlicot >>> wrote: >>>

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [TechTalk] April 12: GIT with Iceberg

2018-04-13 Thread Ben Coman
On 14 April 2018 at 01:55, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:34 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > >> >> >> On 14 April 2018 at 01:10, Guillermo Polito >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Ben

[Pharo-dev] DelayScheduler cleanup & Bootstrap

2018-04-15 Thread Ben Coman
I am doing a pass to cleanup the DelayScheduler hierarchy. I'll be refactoring of the hierarchy to aid code understanding and eliminate redundant instance variables from the original code. The target structure is DelayNullScheduler -- minimum interface to avoid errors in rest of system (6 empty

[Pharo-dev] Critiques - Temporaries read before written.

2018-04-15 Thread Ben Coman
The greater prominence of Critiques in Calypso encourages me to try to clean them out. I bumped into a false positive "Temporaries read before written." that I've condensed to the following example. test |x| [ x := nil ] whileNil: [ x ifNil: [ x := 1] ] Now before I log an Is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Critiques - Temporaries read before written.

2018-04-15 Thread Ben Coman
On 16 April 2018 at 03:07, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > > > 2018-04-15 20:40 GMT+02:00 Martin McClure : >> >> On 04/15/2018 07:42 AM, Ben Coman wrote: >> >> The greater prominence of Critiques in Calypso >> encourages me to try to clean them out. >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] File path encoding

2018-04-16 Thread Ben Coman
On 16 April 2018 at 17:51, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi, > > Some people raise issues with file path encoding with non-ASCII characters. > > The following works fine for me (macOS, Pharo 7, using new File class): > > "works" > > (FileLocator temp / 'foo' , 'txt') writeStreamDo: [ :out | out <

Re: [Pharo-dev] File path encoding

2018-04-16 Thread Ben Coman
On 16 April 2018 at 18:52, Ben Coman wrote: > On 16 April 2018 at 17:51, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Some people raise issues with file path encoding with non-ASCII characters. >> >> The following works fine for me (macOS, Pharo 7, us

Re: [Pharo-dev] File path encoding

2018-04-16 Thread Ben Coman
>> On 16 Apr 2018, at 13:05, Ben Coman wrote: >> >> On 16 April 2018 at 18:52, Ben Coman wrote: >>> On 16 April 2018 at 17:51, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Some people raise issues with file path encoding with

Re: [Pharo-dev] distribute aplication lockdown image

2018-04-18 Thread Ben Coman
On 19 April 2018 at 04:20, Juan wrote: > Hi there, > > I write here, to ask what is the best way to distribute an image, > without starting in the development tools, and start a window of my > application. > Perhaps having a look at PhLDeployment in Pharo Launcher would help. http://files.pharo.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do we kill the catalog?

2018-04-19 Thread Ben Coman
> > > > > Esteban > > > >> On 19 Apr 2018, at 08:42, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: > >> > >> Hi guys > >> > >> What do we do with it? > >> What alternatives? > >> > >> Stef > >> > > > On 19 April 2018 at 14:59, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > > > On 19 Apr 2018, at 08:46, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-dev] DelayScheduler cleanup & Bootstrap

2018-04-19 Thread Ben Coman
On 19 April 2018 at 15:38, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 3:19 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > >> I am doing a pass to cleanup the DelayScheduler hierarchy. >> I'll be refactoring of the hierarchy to aid code understanding >> and eliminate re

[Pharo-dev] learning about ClassTestCase

2018-04-21 Thread Ben Coman
I bumped into ClassTestCase for the first time, with class comment... "This class is intended for unit tests of individual classes and their metaclasses. It provides methods to determine the coverage of the unit tests. Subclasses are expected to re-implement: #classesToBeTested and #select

[Pharo-dev] Calypso zero class refs for TComparable

2018-04-21 Thread Ben Coman
I expected TComparable to be used somewhere in the Image? So I was surprised that with Calypso, right-clicking on TComparable and choosing "Class refs" brought up zero results. Is this expected behaviour? (in 70793) cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Calypso zero class refs for TComparable

2018-04-22 Thread Ben Coman
cause all my projects are around Seaside which does not load in >> P7) >> >> >>> Is this expected behaviour? (in 70793) >>> >>> cheers -ben >>> >> > 2018-04-22 11:59 GMT+02:00 Cyril Ferlicot : > >> >> On dim. 22 avr. 2018 a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Calypso zero class refs for TComparable

2018-04-22 Thread Ben Coman
On 22 April 2018 at 22:16, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > 2018-04-22 16:01 GMT+02:00 Ben Coman : >> >> On 22 April 2018 at 18:45, Denis Kudriashov wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> When you select trait new hierarchy mode appears: trait users. >&

Re: [Pharo-dev] learning about ClassTestCase

2018-04-22 Thread Ben Coman
On 23 April 2018 at 00:48, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > No idea. May be people were thinking that printOn: were not worth tests. > Now I would like to revisit some unused features of Sunit such as the > history. > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 3:44 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > > I bump

[Pharo-dev] Pharo Bootstrap familiarity

2018-05-02 Thread Ben Coman
I found it hard to find info on the Pharo Bootstrap, so I went looking to understand the it by identifying very first creation on disk of the smallest "seed".image file that will later become the final build artifact. I'm sharing here to have a record I can refer to later, and maybe others find

Re: [Pharo-dev] Aboud CI test retries

2018-05-04 Thread Ben Coman
On 3 May 2018 at 23:35, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi all, > > Initially the pharo build had tests that were failing randomly. > To cope with that, we introduced a retry of the tests. > > Nowadays, this situation is actually very rare. Tests that fail, fail > always, and randomly failing tests are

Re: [Pharo-dev] Aboud CI test retries

2018-05-04 Thread Ben Coman
On 4 May 2018 at 17:19, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > >> >> >> On 3 May 2018 at 23:35, Guillermo Polito >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Initially the pharo build had tes

[Pharo-dev] Curious context change latency experiment results (wrt DelayScheduler)

2018-05-05 Thread Ben Coman
One of the key parts of Delay scheduling is setting the resumption time. There are two places this could be done. a. In Delay>>#schedule, running (for example) at userSchedulingPriority=40 b. In DelayMicrosecondScheduler>>#handleTImerEvent:, running at timingPriority=80 When we were using the mill

Re: [Pharo-dev] Curious context change latency experiment results (wrt DelayScheduler)

2018-05-05 Thread Ben Coman
On 5 May 2018 at 22:10, Ben Coman wrote: > One of the key parts of Delay scheduling is setting the resumption time. > There are two places this could be done. > a. In Delay>>#schedule, running (for example) at userSchedulingPriority=40 > b. In DelayMicrosecondScheduler&

Re: [Pharo-dev] LibFFI/NB Cairo External Module Not Found debugging

2018-05-20 Thread Ben Coman
I've not used this, just found it poking around... https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/junfeng/2006/11/20/debugging-loadlibrary-failures/ cheers -ben On 19 May 2018 at 19:37, Peter Uhnák wrote: > Hi, > > some Windows users are repeatedly running into Pharo failing to load Cairo > library on Window

Re: [Pharo-dev] Crash on GC garbageCollect

2018-05-25 Thread Ben Coman
There was a period where a new GC algorithm had some teething issues, but those were resolved. Where did you get the newest VMs? The one from your report seems old... "VM: 201708271955" What platform are you on? How are your starting your Image? Can you move your development to a fresh download

Re: [Pharo-dev] Crash on GC garbageCollect

2018-05-26 Thread Ben Coman
On 26 May 2018 at 08:27, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > Esteban Lorenzano > wrote: > > > > > >> On 25 May 2018, at 23:48, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > >> > >> Esteban Lorenzano > >> wrote: > >>> that’s because 6.1 images still comes with an old VM. > >>> I think I will backport the newer, but next w

[Pharo-dev] CI memory leak testing

2018-05-26 Thread Ben Coman
On 26 May 2018 at 18:21, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, Glamour is stable since years. Yes, we did have some leak issues that > appeared along the way. Last year, we discovered that a memory leak came > from Rubric (specifically there was a global variable in it). People saw > inspectors layin

Re: [Pharo-dev] Curious context change latency experiment results (wrt DelayScheduler)

2018-05-26 Thread Ben Coman
On 6 May 2018 at 04:20, Eliot Miranda wrote: > Hi Ben, > > > On May 5, 2018, at 7:25 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > > > > On 5 May 2018 at 22:10, Ben Coman wrote: > >> One of the key parts of Delay scheduling is setting the resumption time. >> There are two pl

Re: [Pharo-dev] IMPORTANT: ML Etiquette

2018-05-27 Thread Ben Coman
On 28 May 2018 at 11:48, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Dear all, > > There were several posts in the "Beacon for Pharo 7" thread which > top-posted > on top of massive unsnipped quotes that were several-previous-posts deep. > IMHO this made the conversation impossible to follow. This issue has > crop

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 10th Anniversary

2018-05-30 Thread Ben Coman
On 30 May 2018 at 16:10, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi, > > This short post by Stéphane Ducasse is worth sharing: > > https://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2018/05/29/pharo-got-10-years/ > > Congratulation ! > Happy birthday Pharo. Good software takes 10 years... https://www.joelonsoftware.c

[Pharo-dev] server slow

2018-05-31 Thread Ben Coman
Server access is very slow for me right now. It took 20 seconds to bring up the directory index for... https://files.pharo.org/image Is it just me? cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image format not recognized

2018-05-31 Thread Ben Coman
On 1 June 2018 at 03:27, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > Did you see https://github.com/DraagrenKirneh/PngSuiteExplorer ? We score > 100% on the http://www.schaik.com/pngsuite2011 test suite. > So would it be worthwhile integrating those directly into Pharo? cheers -ben

[Pharo-dev] curious behaviour - disappearing variable scope

2018-06-01 Thread Ben Coman
I'm curious about the following behaviour... "In Playground, first evaluate..." s := Semaphore new. [ [ s wait. Transcript crShow: 'x' ] whileTrue ] fork. "then later..." s signal. ==> 'x' is seen in Transcript but then an error pops up "#wait was sent to nil" So... 's' *was* valid and the

Re: [Pharo-dev] curious behaviour - disappearing variable scope

2018-06-01 Thread Ben Coman
On 1 June 2018 at 14:59, Ben Coman wrote: > I'm curious about the following behaviour... > > "In Playground, first evaluate..." > s := Semaphore new. > [ [ s wait. Transcript crShow: 'x' ] whileTrue ] fork. > > "then later..." > s si

Re: [Pharo-dev] curious behaviour - disappearing variable scope

2018-06-01 Thread Ben Coman
On 1 June 2018 at 15:23, Ben Coman wrote: > > > On 1 June 2018 at 14:59, Ben Coman wrote: > >> I'm curious about the following behaviour... >> >> "In Playground, first evaluate..." >> s := Semaphore new. >> [

[Pharo-dev] Calypso debugging across #wait with multithreaded tests

2018-06-03 Thread Ben Coman
Before I log an issue... in Pharo 7 using Calypso to run a test by clicking its status-dot, when trying to step a semaphore #wait the UI locks up. I presumed this was due to the #wait effectively occurring in the main UI thread, so I solved this by forking the test as follows. Is that a reasonab

[Pharo-dev] Empirical Analysis of Programming Language Adoption

2018-06-08 Thread Ben Coman
I bumped into a paper "Empirical Analysis of Programming Language Adoption" that I thought might be of interest to others since we'd like to increase Pharo's mindshare. (http://sns.cs.princeton.edu/docs/asr-oopsla13.pdf) TLDR; my top three take outs were... Figure 5 indicates that simple syntax a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Empirical Analysis of Programming Language Adoption

2018-06-08 Thread Ben Coman
On 8 June 2018 at 20:49, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Ben Coman wrote > > the most important are... > > performance, portability and development speed. > > I wonder about this because Ruby and Python are no speed demons and it's > hard to imagine anyone (except may

Re: [Pharo-dev] Empirical Analysis of Programming Language Adoption

2018-06-09 Thread Ben Coman
On 8 June 2018 at 23:06, Thomas Dupriez wrote: > Hello, > I wanted to just write a quick comment, but it turned into an essay, > sorry. ^^ > > Le 08/06/2018 à 16:35, Nicolas Cellier a écrit : > > > > 2018-06-08 14:50 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier : > >> >> Note that this is used in Smalltalk, when yo

[Pharo-dev] problem debugging - correctly sequencing debug of multi-threaded code per process priorities

2018-06-12 Thread Ben Coman
I'm not sure if I'm doing the wrong thing, or if I've bumped into a problem with step . I'm trying to add some debugging support into multi-threaded code to help properly sequence debugging different priority processes. I've extracted a little demo... TestCase subclass: #Example instanceVariableNa

Re: [Pharo-dev] problem debugging - correctly sequencing debug of multi-threaded code per process priorities

2018-06-12 Thread Ben Coman
On 13 June 2018 at 11:46, Ben Coman wrote: > I'm not sure if I'm doing the wrong thing, or if I've bumped into a > problem with step . > I'm trying to add some debugging support into multi-threaded code to help > properly sequence debugging different priority proc

[Pharo-dev] hard to debug multi-threaded tests

2018-06-13 Thread Ben Coman
In Pharo 5, it was possible to do... TestCase subclass: #Example etc Example >> test1 [ Transcript crShow: Processor activeProcess priority printString; tab; show: Processor activeProcess name. self halt. Transcript crShow: Processor activeProcess effectiveProcess priority printString; tab; s

Re: [Pharo-dev] hard to debug multi-threaded tests

2018-06-13 Thread Ben Coman
On 13 June 2018 at 20:29, Ben Coman wrote: > In Pharo 5, it was possible to do... > > TestCase subclass: #Example > etc > > Example >> test1 > [ Transcript > crShow: Processor activeProcess priority printString; > tab; > show: Processor activeProcess name

Re: [Pharo-dev] problem debugging - correctly sequencing debug of multi-threaded code per process priorities

2018-06-13 Thread Ben Coman
On 13 June 2018 at 11:46, Ben Coman wrote: > I'm not sure if I'm doing the wrong thing, or if I've bumped into a > problem with step . > I'm trying to add some debugging support into multi-threaded code to help > properly sequence debugging different priority proc

[Pharo-dev] Sista & Pharo 7

2018-06-13 Thread Ben Coman
Is Sista operational in the latest Pharo 7 builds? What is the plan for Sista in relation to Pharo 7? cheers -ben

[Pharo-dev] reinstating original UI thread after debugging

2018-06-13 Thread Ben Coman
I notice... DebugSession >> resumeProcess "Make sure the interrupted process is restored properly and restart the low space handler" interruptedProcess isTerminated ifFalse: [ errorWasInUIProcess ifTrue: [ UIManager default resumeUIProcess: interruptedProcess ] ifFalse: [ interruptedProcess re

[Pharo-dev] unnamed processes

2018-06-14 Thread Ben Coman
An uncommon situation but it exposes something that would be nice to correct anyhow... If interCyclePause is commented out like... WorldState >>doOneCycleFor: aWorld "self interCyclePause: MinCycleLapse." self doOneCycleNowFor: aWorld. in Process Browser there is a build-up of unnamed priori

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugger Button Positioning

2018-06-14 Thread Ben Coman
On 15 June 2018 at 03:47, Henrik-Nergaard wrote: > Hi, > > Moving the icons down to the middle row is as simple as changing: > > *** > codeActionsPragmas > ^ #( stackDebuggingActions codeDebuggingActions ) > Thanks for the tip. Note this needs to be stackDebuggingAction cheers -ben

[Pharo-dev] strange debugging

2018-06-14 Thread Ben Coman
Not sure if this is intended behaviour... in a brand new build 71053, open a browser GTGenericStackDebuggerTest >> testBasic right-click and choose "Debug" the debugger opens about on the third statement. Clicking doesn't improve things, and then clicking shows the stack on MetaLink>>uninstall

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugger Button Positioning

2018-06-14 Thread Ben Coman
On 15 June 2018 at 06:51, Ben Coman wrote: > > > On 15 June 2018 at 03:47, Henrik-Nergaard wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Moving the icons down to the middle row is as simple as changing: >> >> *** >> codeActionsPragmas >> ^ #( stackDebuggingAc

Re: [Pharo-dev] [CI] Cause of the random failures in the CI

2018-06-20 Thread Ben Coman
On 19 June 2018 at 22:55, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: > Hi, > > Since months now there are a lot of random failure on the CI making it > hard to work. > > There is different kind of failures: > - Network problems > - Failing tests > - Incomprehensible problems > > Now I don't see much failure due to

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange debugging

2018-06-21 Thread Ben Coman
>> On 15 Jun 2018, at 01:07, Ben Coman wrote: >> >> Not sure if this is intended behaviour... >> >> in a brand new build 71053, open a browser GTGenericStackDebuggerTest >> testBasic >> >> right-click and choose "Debug" >> >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] About the infinite debugger

2018-06-29 Thread Ben Coman
On 29 June 2018 at 22:48, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi all, > > during today's sprint we have been working with lots of people on the > infinite debugger problem (https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/22085/). We > have checked the emails sent in the latest month. Then, together with > Quentin, Pablo

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New Academic Partner: SQLab

2018-07-04 Thread Ben Coman
On 4 July 2018 at 17:29, Marcus Denker wrote: > The Pharo Consortium is very happy to announce that SQLab has joined as a > Academic Partner. > > About > - Software Quality Laboratory, Part of University of Novi Sad: > https://sqlab.pmf.uns.ac.rs > - Pharo Consortium: http://consortium.pharo.org

[Pharo-dev] Win10/Launcher/Pharo7.1122--ZdcPluginMissing: SSL/TLS plugin initailization failed (VM plugin missing ? OS libraries missing ?)

2018-07-11 Thread Ben Coman
I just just downloaded and installed the latest PharoLauncher and running build 7.1122. After enabling Custom SSH Keys and opening Iceberg, doing "Repair repository" on "iceberg" repo, clicking "Clone again this repository" Clone from github Owner name: pharo-vcs Project name: iceberg

Re: [Pharo-dev] Win10/Launcher/Pharo7.1122--ZdcPluginMissing: SSL/TLS plugin initailization failed (VM plugin missing ? OS libraries missing ?)

2018-07-11 Thread Ben Coman
On 12 July 2018 at 01:41, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: > Le 11/07/2018 à 19:35, Ben Coman a écrit : >> I just just downloaded and installed the latest PharoLauncher >> and running build 7.1122. >> >> After enabling Custom SSH Keys and opening Iceberg, >> doing &quo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Win10/Launcher/Pharo7.1122--ZdcPluginMissing: SSL/TLS plugin initailization failed (VM plugin missing ? OS libraries missing ?)

2018-07-11 Thread Ben Coman
On 12 July 2018 at 11:18, Ben Coman wrote: > On 12 July 2018 at 01:41, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: >> Le 11/07/2018 à 19:35, Ben Coman a écrit : >>> I just just downloaded and installed the latest PharoLauncher >>> and running build 7.1122. >>> >>> After

Re: [Pharo-dev] Win10/Launcher/Pharo7.1122--ZdcPluginMissing: SSL/TLS plugin initailization failed (VM plugin missing ? OS libraries missing ?)

2018-07-12 Thread Ben Coman
On 12 July 2018 at 12:06, Ben Coman wrote: > On 12 July 2018 at 11:18, Ben Coman wrote: >> On 12 July 2018 at 01:41, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: >>> Le 11/07/2018 à 19:35, Ben Coman a écrit : >>>> I just just downloaded and installed the latest PharoLauncher

Re: [Pharo-dev] Win10/Launcher/Pharo7.1122--ZdcPluginMissing: SSL/TLS plugin initailization failed (VM plugin missing ? OS libraries missing ?)

2018-07-12 Thread Ben Coman
So the quicker test is evaluating... ZnClient new get: 'https://files.pharo.org/get-files/70/pharo-win-stable.zip'. which results in... ZdcPluginMissing: SSL/TLS plugin initailization failed (VM plugin missing ? OS libraries missing ?) # Debug console # To close: F2 -> 'debug options' -> 'show

Re: [Pharo-dev] Win10/Launcher/Pharo7.1122--ZdcPluginMissing: SSL/TLS plugin initailization failed (VM plugin missing ? OS libraries missing ?)

2018-07-13 Thread Ben Coman
On 12 July 2018 at 11:18, Ben Coman wrote: > This time I also saw some additional info in the debug console... > # Debug console > # To close: F2 -> 'debug options' -> 'show output console' > # To disable: F2 -> 'debug options' -> 'sho

Re: [Pharo-dev] Esteban's ChangeLog week of 16 July 2018

2018-07-23 Thread Ben Coman
On 23 July 2018 at 14:00, wrote: > Hello! > > This is my weekly ChangeLog, from 16 July 2018 to 22 July 2018. > You can see it in a better format by going here: > http://log.smallworks.eu/web/search?from=16/7/2018&to=22/7/2018 > > ChangeLog > = > > 19 July 2018: > - > > *

Re: [Pharo-dev] Minheadless trial

2018-08-05 Thread Ben Coman
On 6 August 2018 at 11:50, Ben Coman wrote: > wow time flies, its been 18 months since Ronie announced his > Minheadless VM branch... > [1] http://forum.world.st/Minheadless-VM-flavour-status-update-td4928091.html In Visual Studio... > (with x64-Debug & pharo.exe selected) > I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Minheadless trial

2018-08-06 Thread Ben Coman
man/opensmalltalk-vm/compare/MinimalisticHeadless...bencoman:MinimalisticHeadless-x64-msvc2017 On 6 August 2018 at 13:22, Ben Coman wrote: > On 6 August 2018 at 11:50, Ben Coman wrote: > > https://github.com/ronsaldo/opensmalltalk-vm/blob/be7b1c03/platfo

[Pharo-dev] debugger "Step Out"

2018-08-09 Thread Ben Coman
A very quick note because its hardly important so I know I'll forget it. Using MSVC recently and jumping back in the Pharo debugger I had a moment when I missing their "Step Out" debugger feature. Probably less important in Pharo where we tend to have shorter methods, and you can always select up

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] feenk log

2018-08-17 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 at 12:48, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Hi, > > We again got carried away and forgot to update the world about what is up in > our corner. Here is a summary: Thanks for the update. Nice to see the progress. > > -- > Bloc & Brick > -- > > - Text editor stability has been significan

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo and Docker (some steps)

2018-08-22 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 at 21:12, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > For those interested in Docker: > > I recently played with Pharo and Docker and summarized some of my steps in a > small tutorial > in my Pharo wiki: > > http://wiki.astares.com/pharo/613 > > There is also a page following Mike Filonov

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher : Image version determination error

2018-08-22 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 21:33, Christophe Demarey wrote: > > Hi Alistair, > > > Le 22 août 2018 à 12:02, Alistair Grant a écrit : > > > > Hi Christophe, > > > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 09:36, Christophe Demarey > > wrote: > >> > >> ... > >> > >> As a workaround for now, we are thinking to ship the

[Pharo-dev] Iceberg > review pull request & repo name clash

2018-09-06 Thread Ben Coman
Two concerns from one flow of events... I was trying out "review a pull request" feature for the first time. This looks very promising, but I got stuck. In Pharo 6.1... Downloaded http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo6.1-win.zip Updated Icerberg per https://github.com/pharo-vcs/iceberg#update-ic

[Pharo-dev] Bloc consideration - TextActions

2018-09-06 Thread Ben Coman
This is may not be worth investigating much in Morphic, but tips are welcome. Mainly this is a use case for consideration with the TextAction equivalent in Bloc. For the #text: of a TextEntryDialogWindow I wanted clickable link similar to the bottom of ```WelcomeHelp open``` which would open a lin

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc consideration - TextActions

2018-09-07 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 at 14:52, Ben Coman wrote: > This is may not be worth investigating much in Morphic, but tips are > welcome. > Mainly this is a use case for consideration with the TextAction equivalent > in Bloc. > > For the #text: of a TextEntryDialogWindow > I wanted c

[Pharo-dev] Iceberg goodness plus ideas

2018-09-09 Thread Ben Coman
First, kudos to Iceberg team for detecting the mistake I made messing around at the command line under the feet of an Iceberg managed repo. I'm interested in some general discussion of a few ideas before logging any issues. I had an Iceberg managed repo branch "ready-multiple-commands" as shown at

Re: [Pharo-dev] Iceberg goodness plus ideas

2018-09-09 Thread Ben Coman
I found a related issue https://github.com/pharo-vcs/iceberg/issues/762 and attached there the pic I left off the previous post. cheers -ben On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 at 23:06, Ben Coman wrote: > First, kudos to Iceberg team for detecting the mistake I made messing > around at the command line

Re: [Pharo-dev] Iceberg goodness plus ideas

2018-09-09 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 at 23:06, Ben Coman wrote: > d. In [D], its not clear the difference between: > "Discard local changes" > "Discard image changes" > Sorry, disregard [d.]. I missed that I could click on these to get a description. cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Iceberg goodness plus ideas

2018-09-09 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 03:40, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi Ben, > > I'm really interested on improving on this. Please read below :) > > On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 5:07 PM Ben Coman wrote: > >> First, kudos to Iceberg team for detecting the mistake I made messing >&g

[Pharo-dev] ZnMimePart Disposition-Content spaces

2018-09-17 Thread Ben Coman
Hi Sven, We encountered a ZnMimePart Content-Disposition header problem with a server expecting a space following the "form-data;" string. The diff here... https://www.diffchecker.com/ETIfCUzx * on the left shows the working request from the default command-line tool * on the right shows the non

[Pharo-dev] Debugger should step silently over #halt

2018-09-20 Thread Ben Coman
I'll often put several breakpoints in code like this... ``` debug := true. "Somewhere else in application code..." debug ifTrue: [ self halt ]. 1 + 1. "Representing some longer bit of application code" debug ifTrue: [ self halt ]. 2 + 2. "Representing some longer bit of application code" debug ifTr

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugger should step silently over #halt

2018-09-20 Thread Ben Coman
already halted, so no-op. cheers -ben > > Tim > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 20 Sep 2018, at 08:42, Ben Coman wrote: > > I'll often put several breakpoints in code like this... > ``` > debug := true. > "Somewhere else in application code..." > de

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo Consortium upgrade to Platinum: ZWEIDENKER

2018-09-25 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 20:03, Marcus Denker wrote: > The Pharo Consortium is very happy to announce that ZWEIDENKER has ugraded > to be a Platinum member. > Its great to see your support and commitment to Pharo - in addition to the many direct code contributions. cheers -ben

[Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher based test resporting centre

2018-09-27 Thread Ben Coman
Just a random idea... when running Testrunner locally and a random test causes the image to freeze, its a bit of an effort to identify which test was being run. You need to restart and then start bisecting the tests and perhaps it is intermittent so the bisect doesn't work... but now that PharoLau

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher based test resporting centre

2018-09-27 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 at 10:23, Ben Coman wrote: > Just a random idea... > when running Testrunner locally and a random test causes the image to > freeze, its a bit of an effort to identify which test was being run. You > need to restart and then start bisecting the tests and p

Re: [Pharo-dev] Reach of Iceberg/git/tonel ?

2018-09-29 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 at 20:40, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi, > > So the future for Pharo is Iceberg/git/tonel and that is fine. > > My question however is: if I convert my external libraries to this new > format, what is the reach of this new technology ? Can people still load > code in older

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] 22477 DelayScheduler cleanup and refactoring [was: Where do we go now ?]

2018-10-01 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 at 13:56, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users < pharo-us...@lists.pharo.org> wrote: > Do we really need 8 delay schedulers (DelayMicrosecondScheduler, > DelayMillisecondScheduler, DelayNullScheduler, > DelayExperimentalSpinScheduler, DelaySpinScheduler, DelayTicklessScheduler, > Del

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] 22477 DelayScheduler cleanup and refactoring [was: Where do we go now ?]

2018-11-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 20:02, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > Ben Coman wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 at 13:56, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users < > > pharo-us...@lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > > What is the current status of this? DelaySpinScheduler is default in my

Re: [Pharo-dev] Now this is fun ...

2018-11-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 23:43, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > https://github.com/pharo > > ;-) > Beat us to it in 2011. But with only 4 repositories, I wonder did anyone politely reach out to describe out community and ask if we might allowed to adopt that url? You can't know anyone's situation a

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] 22477 DelayScheduler cleanup and refactoring [was: Where do we go now ?]

2018-11-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 22:17, Ben Coman wrote: > On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 20:02, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > >> Ben Coman wrote: >> > On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 at 13:56, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users < >> > pharo-us...@lists.pharo.org> wrote: >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Looking for a good shortcut for "contextual spotter"

2018-11-06 Thread Ben Coman
Not really sure if this is a good idea, but why not share... How about Shift-Enter-Enter. Kind of like a double click. Because "local" is kind of like going deeper, kind of like entering a house and then entering a room, kind of like entering twice. Yeah, I know a lot of "kind of like"s chee

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #1365: 22635-Welcome-help-should-show-build-hash-

2018-11-06 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 20:57, wrote: > There is a new Pharo build available! > > The status of the build #1365 was: SUCCESS. > > The Pull Request #1955 was integrated: > "22635-Welcome-help-should-show-build-hash-" > Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/1955 I noticed th

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cannot use Zinc in Pharo7 anymore

2018-11-06 Thread Ben Coman
I get the feeling what is needed is mirroring all dependent repos from the canonical location under http://github.com/pharo-project and a Slice-like tool (probably keeping the name "Slice") which... 1. Pulls all dependent repos to the local machine 2. Simultaneously commits to the local repos with

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cannot use Zinc in Pharo7 anymore

2018-11-07 Thread Ben Coman
d also ensure things get committed in the right > > order (eg doc the dependency chain a bit better). > > > > For me, after a few days I forgot about my Calypso changes and realised a > > few weeks later (by accident) and so could chase Denis. > > > > I think

Re: [Pharo-dev] Better management of encoding of environment variables

2018-11-12 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 18:02, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi all, > > following the meeting we had here @Inria headquarters, I'll be backporting > some of the improvements we did in the launcher this last month regarding > the encoding of environment variables. > > I've opened for this issue https:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anyone else seen crashes like these ?

2018-11-12 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 21:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi, > > I run Pharo 7 64-bit on a macOS laptop, where the images are kept running > across sleep/wake cycles. > Just to confirm, you mean your laptop sleep/wake cycle. On my Window 10 laptop I do the same quite often with no problems.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anyone else seen crashes like these ?

2018-11-12 Thread Ben Coman
I meant to also post a link showing the pattern of the recent primitives... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QzY8iL_3kvHJg1xMg1yvCFzDpQf3Tl9zuVkzfom4cx4/edit?usp=sharing On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 00:50, Ben Coman wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 21:37, Sven Van Caekenberg

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anyone else seen crashes like these ?

2018-11-12 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 02:18, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Yes I mean laptop sleep/wake. > Thanks for looking into this. > But I think the first step is to see if this is repeatable for someone > else. > It is probably some graphics primitive rather than scheduling (I am > guessing here). > Se

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