Re: [Pharo-project] About Flap

2008-09-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
OK we will go slowly there. One of the problem is that flaps are taking also a cpu On Sep 27, 2008, at 12:27 AM, Gary Chambers wrote: I quite like the tools flap, when configured for auto-popout and with "solid" style... Just my 2c Gary. - Original Message - From: "Igor Stasenko"

Re: [Pharo-project] A .mcz of Pinesoft's accumulated fixes applicable to Pharo

2008-09-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Sep 26, 2008, at 10:07 PM, Simon Kirk wrote: hi Stef. Hmm, strange. How are you viewing the diffs? If I browse the MCZ in a Monticello browser I see extensions to these classes: BrowserCommentTextMorph BrowserRequestor CanvasCharacterScanner Character ConnectionQueue GrafPort MultiCanva

Re: [Pharo-project] About Flap

2008-09-26 Thread Gary Chambers
I quite like the tools flap, when configured for auto-popout and with "solid" style... Just my 2c Gary. - Original Message - From: "Igor Stasenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open-sourceSmalltalk" Sent: Wednesday, September 24,

Re: [Pharo-project] A .mcz of Pinesoft's accumulated fixes applicable to Pharo

2008-09-26 Thread Simon Kirk
hi Stef. Hmm, strange. How are you viewing the diffs? If I browse the MCZ in a Monticello browser I see extensions to these classes: BrowserCommentTextMorph BrowserRequestor CanvasCharacterScanner Character ConnectionQueue GrafPort MultiCanvasCharacterScanner NaturalLanguageTranslator Random

Re: [Pharo-project] A .mcz of Pinesoft's accumulated fixes applicable to Pharo

2008-09-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I'm trying to understand the problem I have the hypothesis that this is linked with the class extension or the fact that the package does not exist in the image. Can you also check that you can see diff when the changes is in an class extension? Because this is strange with some packages I c

Re: [Pharo-project] A .mcz of Pinesoft's accumulated fixes applicable to Pharo

2008-09-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Simon with which machine did you create you mcz? Because apparently I can see the diffs for other packages. Can somebody else check the pinesoft package I put in the pharoInbox? Stef Hi all. Gary and I decided we ought to give out an MCZ of our fixes that we've put together over the last

[Pharo-project] who is YM

2008-09-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
because there is a package Network YM 44 Please please avoid to use initials. Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

[Pharo-project] Bug? I cannot see the diff anymore doing merge or browse

2008-09-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi I'm tracking a problem I have and which is quite annoying I cannot see the diff when I do a merge or browse with MC. I'm with 10074 and I woudl like to know if you have the same behavior. Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gfor

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside-dev] preliminary Seaside 2.9 alphauniverse

2008-09-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
My objection, the big ball of mud called Kernel-Extensions and the liberal use of overrides, which I think are evil. I like using packages that do their best to only use extensions and don't just go around the system willy nilly monkey patching everything. I don't trust packages with ov

Re: [Pharo-project] A .mcz of Pinesoft's accumulated fixes applicable to Pharo

2008-09-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
This is GREAT! you checked with Pharo, so I will check to see and publish that. Stef On Sep 26, 2008, at 6:36 PM, Simon Kirk wrote: Hi all. Gary and I decided we ought to give out an MCZ of our fixes that we've put together over the last two years. Obviously some of those we found have b

RE: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside-dev] preliminary Seaside 2.9 alphauniverse

2008-09-26 Thread Ramon Leon
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Lukas Renggli > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One problem I see with Sake/Packages is that these tools depend on a > > lot of other packages, that I don't necessarily want to > have loaded in > > my images: Logging, Rio, Installer, Sake, Packages ... > > > > I

[Pharo-project] A .mcz of Pinesoft's accumulated fixes applicable to Pharo

2008-09-26 Thread Simon Kirk
Hi all. Gary and I decided we ought to give out an MCZ of our fixes that we've put together over the last two years. Obviously some of those we found have been pulled into Pharo already, but the attached MCZ represents those that we think are still relevant :) This is a rough list of th

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside-dev] preliminary Seaside 2.9 alpha universe

2008-09-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Damien can you post the code to load Sake Packages MC1.6 For me I'm always lost. Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside-dev] preliminary Seaside 2.9 alpha universe

2008-09-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
What is Packages? compared to Sake I tried to understand some of the emails keith sent a while back to squeak-dev but I could not get it. Setf Sake/Packages is just about that: a declarative way to specify packages. Nothing more. And there is a script which converts a Universe to a set o

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside-dev] preliminary Seaside 2.9 alpha universe

2008-09-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Sep 26, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - For example I would like to have a real look at MC1.6 but the message around it is blurry MC1.6 is not the topic here. Still this is the same :). It is a communica

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside-dev] preliminary Seaside 2.9 alpha universe

2008-09-26 Thread Damien Cassou
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Janko Mivšek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you answered already: no GUI, no integration with tools. I see that > as the only obstacle to a broader acceptance of Keith's work. For a long time, debian linux systems did not have any GUI to manage their packages

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside-dev] preliminary Seaside 2.9 alpha universe

2008-09-26 Thread Damien Cassou
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Lukas Renggli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One problem I see with Sake/Packages is that these tools depend on a > lot of other packages, that I don't necessarily want to have loaded in > my images: Logging, Rio, Installer, Sake, Packages ... > > I guess one could ar

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside-dev] preliminary Seaside 2.9 alpha universe

2008-09-26 Thread Damien Cassou
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - For example I would like to have a real look at MC1.6 but the > message around it is blurry MC1.6 is not the topic here. > I tried LFP and it broke on me. It worked fine for me. You may want to try again and send bu

[Pharo-project] Interesting news

2008-09-26 Thread Bill Schwab
Hello all, Have a look at: http://www.object-arts.com/content/news/excitingNews.html Object Arts and Lesser Software are collaborating on a new version of Dolphin. They are still sticking to the Windows-only angle, which I find disappointing. However, even if they hold to that, we are better

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside-dev] preliminary Seaside 2.9 alpha universe

2008-09-26 Thread Janko Mivšek
Damien Cassou wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Keith Hodges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do have a look at Sake/Packages equivalent to universes. I agree with Keith. Sake/Packages have all the features of universes without a GUI but provide an easy way to define your own universe as you