Re: [Pharo-project] Formalised UI

2008-10-02 Thread Antony Blakey
On 03/10/2008, at 2:50 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: By professional we mean: clean and robust, Of course we would like to have a good layout and UI. But someone has to do it. :) What is also important is that people get the fredom to invent new things and that pharo keeps making progress even

Re: [Pharo-project] Did you harvest Kernel-dc.198

2008-10-02 Thread Marcus Denker
On 02.10.2008, at 21:59, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi marcus did you harvest ? No, but this looks good. Marcus Name: Kernel-dc.198 Author: dc Time: 28 September 2008, 4:00:03 pm UUID: 3b2eeec4-6461-4d22-94d1-e7f692e7e177 Ancestors: Kernel-marcus.denker.197 - M7166: speedup allSele

Re: [Pharo-project] Formalised UI

2008-10-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi antony Yes I like your look. If Pharo is meant to be a 'professional' environment then IMO you should concentrate on implementing known and tested solutions for layout, rather than inventing a new system. By professional I am assuming people mean interfaces as you see in Windows and O

Re: [Pharo-project] Formalised UI

2008-10-02 Thread Antony Blakey
If Pharo is meant to be a 'professional' environment then IMO you should concentrate on implementing known and tested solutions for layout, rather than inventing a new system. By professional I am assuming people mean interfaces as you see in Windows and OSX applications e.g. fields, button

Re: [Pharo-project] Formalised UI

2008-10-02 Thread Igor Stasenko
The idea behind ordinates is to deal with morphic layouts. Any morph , can define an arbitrary set of ordinates, then another morph can say - lets my ordinate 'center' be a function which calculates its position by taking another morph ordinate into account. There can be infinite number of combina

[Pharo-project] Re: Exupery's VMMaker on SqueakSource now has closures

2008-10-02 Thread Markus Fritsche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > I can supply a built VM if anyone wants to try it immediately. If > not I'll package one up after finishing tidying up. Hello Bryce, I'd like to try it out immediately. But... What are the premises? Do I have to build a special VM for Exupery (your post indicates th

Re: [Pharo-project] History and SUnit

2008-10-02 Thread Keith Hodges
Oh and in the ss/Testing repo the master packages are still SUnit and SUnitGUI, the "Testing" heirarchy is a proposed reorganisation for the future. Keith ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cg

Re: [Pharo-project] History and SUnit

2008-10-02 Thread Keith Hodges
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks > I will have a look. I do not really understand what is written, this > is too cryptic. > Does the framework changes remove the fact that tests should start > with test? > > Stef Yes, although the default behaviour is preserved, TestCase subclasses can publish thei

[Pharo-project] Exupery's VMMaker on SqueakSource now has closures

2008-10-02 Thread bryce
I can supply a built VM if anyone wants to try it immediately. If not I'll package one up after finishing tidying up. Looking at the bytecodes, they're suppressing context recycling whenever a closure is created. The only reason that closures refer to their surrounding contexts is to support ^ re

[Pharo-project] Re: Universe Browser - search

2008-10-02 Thread Dan Corneanu
Just made an update and seen the Univers Browser (enhanced). It seems to have what I wanted :) On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Dan Corneanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I know it is not decided yet what will pharo use for loading code, but > I would really appreciate a search button in the

[Pharo-project] Universe Browser - search

2008-10-02 Thread Dan Corneanu
Hi, I know it is not decided yet what will pharo use for loading code, but I would really appreciate a search button in the Univers Browser. I always find myself lost in the tree. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://

[Pharo-project] Did you harvest Kernel-dc.198

2008-10-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi marcus did you harvest ? Name: Kernel-dc.198 Author: dc Time: 28 September 2008, 4:00:03 pm UUID: 3b2eeec4-6461-4d22-94d1-e7f692e7e177 Ancestors: Kernel-marcus.denker.197 - M7166: speedup allSelectors add allSelectorsBelow:. Firstly #allSelectors inefficiently creates multiple intermediate

Re: [Pharo-project] History and SUnit

2008-10-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks I will have a look. I do not really understand what is written, this is too cryptic. Does the framework changes remove the fact that tests should start with test? Stef http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/SUnit%20for%203.10 -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gil

Re: [Pharo-project] Formalised UI

2008-10-02 Thread Gary Chambers
Well, I've done a bit with CSS (3.0) not fully looked though, just enough that our Report Builder file format (XML) is roughly equivalent. Just a thought about states of "widgets" I've seen in the wild... base Morphic doen't honour any of them by default... hence lots of extra code for dealing

Re: [Pharo-project] Formalised UI

2008-10-02 Thread Michael Rueger
Gary Chambers wrote: Just some thoughts picked up over the years. Things that all Morphs should have, at least, defaults for... UI States: how does this list compare to the list of possible CSS states? Transitions would be nice, but might be a bit overboard... Igor and I discussed a framew

[Pharo-project] Formalised UI

2008-10-02 Thread Gary Chambers
Just some thoughts picked up over the years. Things that all Morphs should have, at least, defaults for... UI States: Enabled Enabled Mouse over Enabled Mouse down inside Enabled Mouse down outside (?) Enabled Selected Enabled Selected Mouse over Enabled Selected Mouse down inside Enabled Sele

Re: [Pharo-project] History and SUnit

2008-10-02 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can you tell us more? http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/SUnit%20for%203.10 -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Re: [Pharo-project] How to integrate Kernel-Extensions

2008-10-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I propose to harvest the cleaning behavior. I will go over the list and check Stef On Oct 1, 2008, at 10:53 PM, Damien Pollet wrote: Hi list, we (with Stef) are browsing Kernel-Extensions, here are some notes for discussion, as we think there is stuff that should be merged in Pharo. Null and

Re: [Pharo-project] Changes from COG

2008-10-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks mathieu. We will include that since COG is MIT Stef On Oct 2, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Mathieu Suen wrote: Hi, If you don't mind Eliot, I have taken a changeset from COG to Pharo. You can integrate it. It should work fine This change is for having a better CompiledMethod explorer. See attac

[Pharo-project] Package browser bugs

2008-10-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi david 2 bugs: - when I select a class in a hierarchy when I click on package, the package is not selected - the drag and drop on a package does not work with me. Let me know if you need a more precise example Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list

[Pharo-project] Changes from COG

2008-10-02 Thread Mathieu Suen
Hi, If you don't mind Eliot, I have taken a changeset from COG to Pharo. You can integrate it. It should work fine This change is for having a better CompiledMethod explorer. See attached file. BytecodeBrowsing.2.cs Description: Binary data Mth

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] re: Squeak 4

2008-10-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
for information. I will continue to harvest etoy removals and gary/simon enh. Stef From: Craig Latta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: October 1, 2008 10:49:14 PM CEDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [squeak-dev] re: Squeak 4 Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: [Pharo-project] A .mcz of Pinesoft's accumulatedfixesapplicableto Pharo

2008-10-02 Thread Gary Chambers
Indeed. I've poked around a bit and it doesn't pick up stuff in image for new packages it would seem. Only changes for previous versions of the package being merged. I think it looks possible to change it to do so though! Gary. - Original Message - From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <[EMAIL PR

Re: [Pharo-project] A .mcz of Pinesoft's accumulated fixesapplicableto Pharo

2008-10-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok I think that this is a MC "bug" Stef On Oct 2, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Gary Chambers wrote: Though that seems to make no difference... Gary - Original Message - From: "Gary Chambers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: "An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to anopen- sourceSmalltalk

Re: [Pharo-project] A .mcz of Pinesoft's accumulated fixesapplicableto Pharo

2008-10-02 Thread Gary Chambers
Though that seems to make no difference... Gary - Original Message - From: "Gary Chambers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to anopen-sourceSmalltalk" Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A .mcz of Pinesoft's

Re: [Pharo-project] A .mcz of Pinesoft's accumulated fixes applicableto Pharo

2008-10-02 Thread Gary Chambers
Hi Stef, my fault. The override methods are not categorised properly, I'll fix and send a gain if you like. Gary. - Original Message - From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open-sourceSmalltalk" Sent: Sunday, Septe