> As you can see I am still finding my feet here :) Amazing
> though, that
> during my research I didn't come across
> http://squeaksource.com
> squeaksource.com myself. I actually had come across
> SqueakSource some time
> ago when I started to look at Squeak.
>
> So, am I correct in assum
Geert wrote:
> Ramon Leon wrote:
>
>> You named everything but the thing you're looking for. We have
>> squeaksource.com, which is kind of like github, a place to share
>> Monticello
>> packages.
>>
>> Ramon Leon
>> http://onsmalltalk.com
>>
>>
>
> As you can see I am still finding my feet
Ramon Leon wrote:
>
> You named everything but the thing you're looking for. We have
> squeaksource.com, which is kind of like github, a place to share
> Monticello
> packages.
>
> Ramon Leon
> http://onsmalltalk.com
>
As you can see I am still finding my feet here :) Amazing though, that
d
> Monticello actually? Are there any plans for the Pharo
> Project to create
> some sort of PharoHub or MonticelloHub (taking the example of
> GitHub here)
> where everyone can browse through available repositories and
> their packages?
> Anyhow, maybe I am jumping ahead a bit since the first
At first it usually takes some time to get one's head around the Smalltalk
way of working in a live image. The next question is usually something
around, how can I make this work in a team environment, what about version
control, how can I share and/or re-use external packages/classes?
After som
Maybe Nabble should be added on the " http://pharo-project.org/community
pharo-project.org/community " page as an alternative interface which allows
users to browse and search archived emails in an online forum and where
members can post and reply to the mailing list?
Thanks
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Lukas Renggli wrote:
>> When I took up the role of maintaining MC1.5, I did so with the express
>> purpose of integrating all of the MC forks for the benefit of the whole
>> community. If I had known that this idea was conceptually a waste of
>> time then I wouldn't have bothered. I did it because
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:19 PM, John M McIntosh
wrote:
>> How much would it take to have the primitive return the normalized UTF-8
>> string directly?
> Er, case of beer?
What kind? :-)
Duckstein?
> Seriously tho you need to define if the UTF8 you expect squeak to work with
> is precomposed
Cool!
I like the way you cut into the jungle :).
It is good to have some mercenaries :)
On Feb 12, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Alain Plantec wrote:
> Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
>> Alain can you check?
>> The changeset code should be in.
>>
> yep!
> all is ok :)
> thanks
>> Stef
>>
>> _
Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
> Alain can you check?
> The changeset code should be in.
>
yep!
all is ok :)
thanks
> Stef
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Alain can you check?
The changeset code should be in.
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> I honestly do not understand what LPF means. It is probably because I
> am not a native speaker.
>
>
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/228650.html
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On 12-Feb-09, at 5:12 AM, Michael Rueger wrote:
> John M McIntosh wrote:
>> No, it's just more smalltalk coding, the utf8-plain-text bytes need
>> to be translated into bytes according to
>
> Somewhere in the call chain it is finally FFI calls as you
> illustrate below.
>
> How much would it
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> I like the idea to have to load speech to get curl :)
> But this would be nice to fix that
There is also a curl implementation in Sophie by Steven Riggins, not
sure what it originally was based on.
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I like the idea to have to load speech to get curl :)
But this would be nice to fix that
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Paul DeBruicker
> Date: February 12, 2009 6:35:53 PM CEST
> To: Seaside - general discussion
> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Loading Curl Pb (was: Google Maps API
> Services Geo
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> apparently there was a problem when I did 10233 so your fixe works.
Great :-)
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apparently there was a problem when I did 10233 so your fixe works.
Stef
On Feb 12, 2009, at 6:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Hi mike
>
> I integrated your changes but I still get a problem when I drag and
> drop a file.
> Can you check that you changes are really in?
> and let us know
>
> Tx
No idea
>> time
>> time time
>> have you seen that adrian is working on trait sharing and that we are
>> waiting for that
>> since a couple of months or more.
>>
>> Stef
>>
> Will it load into 3.10?
>
> Keith
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> We believe your work (MC, SUnit, Sake and Packages) is important
> enough for an integration into Pharo. We don't want to consider it as
> an external package.
I think that you should consider it as an external package, because it
IS an external package.
And it is used by code that is not Ph
sorry.
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Hi mike
I integrated your changes but I still get a problem when I drag and
drop a file.
Can you check that you changes are really in?
and let us know
Tx
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> time
> time time
> have you seen that adrian is working on trait sharing and that we are
> waiting for that
> since a couple of months or more.
>
> Stef
>
Will it load into 3.10?
Keith
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>
>
> We stopped fixing the kernel in order to try and facilitate some
> harmony
> through some tools support. One result was LPF, another MC1.6, and of
> course the invisible man, Bob.
>
> Now you have all the experts, why doesnt someone who knows about
> traits
> help Matthew to fix
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:57:40 +0100, Damien Cassou wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just uploaded new dev and web images based on
> Squeak3.9.1-7075, Squeak3.10.2-7179 and Pharo0.1-10231.
>
> More information and download:
> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st/Smalltalk/squeak-dev
> Pharo-based images can b
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> On Feb 12, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Keith Hodges wrote:
>
>
>>> Our goal is to make progress. Squeak is dying don't see it?
>>>
>>>
>> The reason it is dying is because once anyone starts a significant
>> project they are stuck with the same image that they started with
I am close enough to Stef to affirm you that he respects your work
and
he is really willing to have a look at your code. As I do. I said
that
I would look at your SUnit extension a long while ago. However Stef
and I are extremely busy. We are leading a group of 8 peopl
On 12 févr. 09, at 14:43, David Röthlisberger wrote:
> Hi Simon
>
>> Using the latest pharo dev 10231dev09.02.1, I cant use the search bar
>> anymore. I got a OBEnhancementMetaNode(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand:
>> #fan:
>
> I fixed this in latest OBAlpha.
> Can you check if it works for you too?
On Thursday 12 February 2009 15:51:14 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Begin forwarded message:
> > From: Keith Hodges
> > Date: February 12, 2009 2:38:41 PM CEST
> > To: Alexandre Bergel , stephane ducasse
> > >
> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Workspace API
> >
> > Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> >> Hi Kei
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
wrote:
>> So again I am not complaining about the fact that you haven't looked
>> at
>> this or that bit of code. Your response of "we havent had time to look
>> at that " winds me up, because I hear it as "we havent had time to
>> audit
>> your po
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Keith Hodges
> Date: February 12, 2009 2:38:41 PM CEST
> To: Alexandre Bergel , stephane ducasse
> >
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Workspace API
>
> Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> I am close enough to Stef to affirm you that he respects your work
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On Feb 12, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Keith Hodges wrote:
>
>> Our goal is to make progress. Squeak is dying don't see it?
>>
> The reason it is dying is because once anyone starts a significant
> project they are stuck with the same image that they started with.
> Thus
> everyone gets left along the pa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I thought that MinimalMorphic was released 2 years ago?
>>
>>
ok I was mistaken, I meant the etoys removal script
Keith
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Maybe some comments could be added in the class OBCommand
Shall I do it? But I cannot say more than what you just said
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 12 Feb 2009, at 14:49, David Röthlisberger wrote:
>
>> #isActive would probably better be called #isVisible.
>
> yeah, that's true.
>
> So #isActive in the
> #isActive would probably better be called #isVisible.
yeah, that's true.
So #isActive in the context of a command tells you whether this command is
present
for the given entity and #isEnabled whether it's also selectable.
For an example see 'redo' of OB-Refactory. If there is no redo-action
Hi Simon
> Using the latest pharo dev 10231dev09.02.1, I cant use the search bar
> anymore. I got a OBEnhancementMetaNode(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #fan:
I fixed this in latest OBAlpha.
Can you check if it works for you too?
David
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Come on this is not the same
On Feb 12, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Keith Hodges wrote:
> Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>> I know. I just want to tell you that nothing is easy.
>> Now saying that we do not pay attention is not exact.
>> But really beside integrating fixes and cleaning etoy I have no time.
>>
John M McIntosh wrote:
> No, it's just more smalltalk coding, the utf8-plain-text bytes need to
> be translated into bytes according to
Somewhere in the call chain it is finally FFI calls as you illustrate below.
How much would it take to have the primitive return the normalized UTF-8
string di
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> I know. I just want to tell you that nothing is easy.
> Now saying that we do not pay attention is not exact.
> But really beside integrating fixes and cleaning etoy I have no time.
>
> Stef
>
>
I thought that MinimalMorphic was released 2 years ago?
Keith
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> Our goal is to make progress. Squeak is dying don't see it?
>
The reason it is dying is because once anyone starts a significant
project they are stuck with the same image that they started with. Thus
everyone gets left along the path of progress. They keep up or get left
behind to fork their
#isActive would probably better be called #isVisible.
Lukas
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Alexandre Bergel
wrote:
> Dear OBers,
>
> What is the difference between these two methods?
>
> Alexandre
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Dear OBers,
What is the difference between these two methods?
Alexandre
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Paul this is not a problem. I understand what keith is saying but we
have a bootstrap problem:
how can people help building better extensions.
stef
On Feb 12, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Provoost, P (Paul) wrote:
> Keith,
>
> I think that you should not raise your voice the way you do in this
> maili
>> You still dont get it do you. *** really look at it *** means pick
>> over
> the carcass. Adopting it means JOINING IN AND MAKING EVERYTHING BETTER
> FOR EVERY ONE.
I know.
>
>
> You guys have the expertise to fix things I dont,
I'm not sure :)
> and test things that I
> dont. I dont have
I know. I just want to tell you that nothing is easy.
Now saying that we do not pay attention is not exact.
But really beside integrating fixes and cleaning etoy I have no time.
Stef
On Feb 12, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Keith Hodges wrote:
> Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>> About MC1.5 here is what I receive
Keith,
I think that you should not raise your voice the way you do in this mailing
list.
Please don't be rude in this list, it spoils the positive and friendly
atmosphere of it.
If you want to quarrel with Stef, then please do it in private mails.
Thanks,
Paul
Keith wrote:
>You still dont g
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> About MC1.5 here is what I received as a private email.
> So I imagine that the person is a bit too negative too but you can
> understand that we pay attention and need time
> to ***really*** look at it.
>
> I hope you don't include Monticello 1.5 in Pharo. All cod
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> About MC1.5 here is what I received as a private email.
> So I imagine that the person is a bit too negative too but you can
> understand that we pay attention and need time
> to ***really*** look at it.
>
> I hope you don't include Monticello 1.5 in Pharo. All cod
Begin forwarded message:
> From: John M McIntosh
> Date: February 12, 2009 6:13:50 AM CEST
> To: Keith Hodges
> Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> >
> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] ditching Monticello objects.
> Reply-To: john...@smalltalkconsulting.com, The general-purpose
> Squ
On Feb 11, 2009, at 7:34 PM, Keith Hodges wrote:
> Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>> Where? When?
>> Keith
>> in the long run it would be nice that yu do not bash us
>> systematically.
>> Yes we have a different way of working but normally this is often by
>> pure lack of time or information
>> that w
About MC1.5 here is what I received as a private email.
So I imagine that the person is a bit too negative too but you can
understand that we pay attention and need time
to ***really*** look at it.
I hope you don't include Monticello 1.5 in Pharo. All code that we
have seen so fa
thanks a lot!
Stef
On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:28 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=505
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> The Pharo Smalltalk mailing list should now also be available on
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