Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10252

2009-03-16 Thread Sebastian Sastre
noob question: downloadable from? or is just updating a 243? sebastian > -Mensaje original- > De: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] En > nombre de Stephane Ducasse > Enviado el: Friday, March 13, 2009 18:27 > Para: Pharo D

Re: [Pharo-project] Removing more classes from Pharo

2009-03-16 Thread Michael Rueger
Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Ffenestri is a possible route to host windows. I am *not* a "native > widgets or bust guy" (emulation has its points, performance under > scaling being high on the list), but there are reasons to want to use > host windows too. I would hesitate to remove this too quickly

Re: [Pharo-project] Removing more classes from Pharo

2009-03-16 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Ffenestri is a possible route to host windows. I am *not* a "native widgets or bust guy" (emulation has its points, performance under scaling being high on the list), but there are reasons to want to use host windows too. I would hesitate to remove this too quickly, unless Pinesoft tells us th

Re: [Pharo-project] Removing more classes from Pharo

2009-03-16 Thread John M McIntosh
On 16-Mar-09, at 2:21 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > In quest of modularizing Pharo and reducing its memory footprint, I > was wondering whether the following packages should be removed: > > - TrueType and related classes in Multilingual-Display (are obsolete > since we have FreeType, no?) > - Serv

Re: [Pharo-project] Removing more classes from Pharo

2009-03-16 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Pavel, Nice to see others interested and working on this too :) If I apply my cleanup script on your image (see ScriptLoader>>cleanUpForRelease) I get an image size of 8.6MB, cool! (A standard Pharo core image is reduced to 9.1MB if you also remove the MC ancestory). I think we should -

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the package of a class ?

2009-03-16 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Maybe here: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CodeSnippets. We can also create a new page on the wiki if necessary. Cheers, Adrian On Mar 16, 2009, at 23:21 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > This mail remember me something: it would be nice to have a place > (perhaps > the same of code snip

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the package of a class ?

2009-03-16 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
This mail remember me something: it would be nice to have a place (perhaps the same of code snippets). Not only thing related to pharo, but to squeak in general. For example: - The subject of this mail (How to get the package of a class) - How to copy to clipboard a wallback -> very useful for bug

Re: [Pharo-project] Losing click event

2009-03-16 Thread David Röthlisberger
> Have you tried the following? > TransferMorph allInstances do: [:ea | ea delete] or: Utilities cleanseOtherWorldlySteppers David > from > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-December/133369.html > HTH, > Adrian > > On Mar 16, 2009, at 17:17 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] Removing more classes from Pharo

2009-03-16 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Hi Adrian, I've tried to do some steps in this direction so here's a little cleaned exerimental image without sound, with less unimplemented calls etc.: http://comtalk.eu/public/pub/pharo/Pharo0.1Core-10248.9.zip FreeType package can be removeable, in fact it is easier to remove that TrueType. -

Re: [Pharo-project] Removing more classes from Pharo

2009-03-16 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Never used any of them as well... Cheers, Alexandre On 16 Mar 2009, at 22:21, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > In quest of modularizing Pharo and reducing its memory footprint, I > was wondering whether the following packages should be removed: > > - TrueType and related classes in Multilingual-Display

Re: [Pharo-project] Removing more classes from Pharo

2009-03-16 Thread Lukas Renggli
> What do others think? Yeah, it sounds reasonable to remove those classes. Never used any of them. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi

Re: [Pharo-project] Removing more classes from Pharo

2009-03-16 Thread Rob Rothwell
I've only ever worked with Sound, and when I didn't know how to do much with packages and had to make changes to the Sound package I just saved the whole thing loaded it into a new image, so I think it should be relatively straightforward to do as you suggest. However, if the Polymorph "sound" the

[Pharo-project] Removing more classes from Pharo

2009-03-16 Thread Adrian Lienhard
In quest of modularizing Pharo and reducing its memory footprint, I was wondering whether the following packages should be removed: - TrueType and related classes in Multilingual-Display (are obsolete since we have FreeType, no?) - Services (does not seem to be used, except by a subclass in Po

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

2009-03-16 Thread Rob Rothwell
Yes... Preferences resetHaloSpecifications "works," but notice that when selecting a "plain old" Morph (like Morph new), it is overwritten by the background color... Rob On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Ok I got it and I opened an issue. > > Stef > > On Mar 16, 2009,

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

2009-03-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok I got it and I opened an issue. Stef On Mar 16, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Gary Chambers wrote: > Not one of mine... > The halo item in question is the addPaintBgdHandle which is still > present in > the images but removed. > Preferences resetHaloSpecifications needs to be invoked. > > Regards, Gar

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the package of a class ?

2009-03-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
or mostSpecificPackageOfClass: in Pharo :) stef On Mar 16, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > PackageOrganizer default packageOfClass: aClass > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Alain Plantec > wrote: >> thanks >> Alain >> >> ___ >> Pharo-pro

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the package of a class ?

2009-03-16 Thread Lukas Renggli
PackageOrganizer default packageOfClass: aClass On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: > thanks > Alain > > ___ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pha

[Pharo-project] How to get the package of a class ?

2009-03-16 Thread Alain Plantec
thanks Alain ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] Losing click event

2009-03-16 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Have you tried the following? TransferMorph allInstances do: [:ea | ea delete] from http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-December/133369.html HTH, Adrian On Mar 16, 2009, at 17:17 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > No, there is no hidden morph. There is a variation in the bug, a

Re: [Pharo-project] Losing click event

2009-03-16 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
No, there is no hidden morph. There is a variation in the bug, as for some time I need to move slighly the mouse to get the clic event handled. I remove all Morph from screen including taskbar, does not get better. I try with different theme Nothing special in the process browser, at least no proce

Re: [Pharo-project] Losing click event

2009-03-16 Thread Gary Chambers
Not seen that recently, since I fixed the DockingBar (if you use one) layering and the putting of minimised window (invisible with taskbar) well offscreen. Perhaps you have an inivisble Morph around (World submorphs should verify). Regards, Gary - Original Message - From: "Hilaire Fer

[Pharo-project] Losing click event

2009-03-16 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
I have something strange happening in an image. Randomly, mouse click event seems to be lost. I have to click two or three times to get the event handled. It happens anywhere in the image. Is there a way to fix that? Hilaire -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire _

Re: [Pharo-project] about reliability of installer

2009-03-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Mar 16, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Stéphane Ducasse > wrote: >> I do not understand what you mean since I spelt it correctly. > > Have a look at the squeaksource page: > http://www.squeaksource.com/BreakOut/. You will see that the latest > mcz

Re: [Pharo-project] about reliability of installer

2009-03-16 Thread Damien Cassou
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > I do not understand what you mean since I spelt it correctly. Have a look at the squeaksource page: http://www.squeaksource.com/BreakOut/. You will see that the latest mcz named BreakOut is BreakOut-rk.11.mcz. The latest one named Breako

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

2009-03-16 Thread Gary Chambers
Not one of mine... The halo item in question is the addPaintBgdHandle which is still present in the images but removed. Preferences resetHaloSpecifications needs to be invoked. Regards, Gary - Original Message - From: "Stéphane Ducasse" To: Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:12 AM Subjec

Re: [Pharo-project] about reliability of installer

2009-03-16 Thread Keith Hodges
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > I was going over the chapter on installer and I played a bit with it. > But I got the following behavior > > | monticello | > monticello := Installer monticello > http: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/BreakOut'. > monticello addPackage: 'BreakO

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

2009-03-16 Thread Rob Rothwell
"Resetting the halo specs?" What do you mean? Putting back other removed methods? Rob 2009/3/15 Gary Chambers > I noticed the halo problem in the dev image too. Resetting the halo specs > is needed since one has been removed... > > Regards, Gary > > - Original Message - > *From:* Rob

Re: [Pharo-project] about reliability of installer

2009-03-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
>> > > According to http://www.squeaksource.com/BreakOut/: > - the latest version of BreakOut is BreakOut-rk.11.mcz. > - the latest version of Breakout is Breakout-rkrk.119.mcz > > The Installer seems to work quite fine for me, just spell the name of > the game correctly :-). I do not understand w

Re: [Pharo-project] about closures integration

2009-03-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
ok I will try this evening. Stef On Mar 16, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Stéphane Ducasse > wrote: >> what is the case for the linux and windows one? > > Give me an image or the steps to make one and I will tell you if it > works. The Exupery VM wo

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

2009-03-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Once you arrive to a fix point let me know what I should integrate. Stef On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > I noticed the halo problem in the dev image too. Resetting the halo > specs is needed since one has been removed... > > Regards, Gary > - Original Message - > Fr

Re: [Pharo-project] about reliability of installer

2009-03-16 Thread Damien Cassou
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > I was going over the chapter on installer and I played a bit with it. > But I got the following behavior > > | monticello | > monticello := Installer monticello >                http: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/BreakOut'. >        montic

Re: [Pharo-project] about closures integration

2009-03-16 Thread Damien Cassou
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > what is the case for the linux and windows one? Give me an image or the steps to make one and I will tell you if it works. The Exupery VM works fine and I use it everyday. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st ___

[Pharo-project] about closures integration

2009-03-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi all we could get ready for a closure integration attempt. this means - produce a new image - publish all the packages - from then one use new VM - and we could try to continue from there Now may be we could use another stream? what do you think?

[Pharo-project] about reliability of installer

2009-03-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys I was going over the chapter on installer and I played a bit with it. But I got the following behavior | monticello | monticello := Installer monticello http: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/BreakOut'. monticello addPackage: 'BreakOut'. monticello install th

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

2009-03-16 Thread Gary Chambers
I noticed the halo problem in the dev image too. Resetting the halo specs is needed since one has been removed... Regards, Gary - Original Message - From: Rob Rothwell To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

2009-03-16 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Rob, Sounds like that worked - I yield all credit to Pinesoft for getting it right. I still think that halos, or an equivalent are important. Dolphin's view composer is a very nice tool, both for making layout changes and for browsing the structure of existing views. Dolphin's MVP framework

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

2009-03-16 Thread Rob Rothwell
If you put back: HaloMorpth>>addPaintBgdHandle: haloSpec (innerTarget isKindOf: PasteUpMorph) ifTrue: [self addHandle: haloSpec on: #mouseDown send: #paintBackground to: innerTarget]. from an older version, you can select a Morph again, but for "simple" Morphs (like Mo

Re: [Pharo-project] Unicode test II

2009-03-16 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Michael Rueger wrote: > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Sorry for the bad news. But still doesn't work. The first time I type > > "á" when I open the image, works perfect. But after that, every time I > > type that, I have the detailed wallback. > > Hmm, if I cou

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] newDelta >0 failed in sqUnixMemory -- Was Re: Incompatibility between Pharo and Seasidehosting

2009-03-16 Thread Bruce O'Neel
Hi, Thanks, I've finally gotten back to this and tested it. It works fine except for sound, which is broken in the same way that the 3-10.4 ones are broken (on at least ppc). They sound very bad. Does sound work on x86? If true, then it's probably a byte swapping problem and I can track that d

Re: [Pharo-project] Unicode test II

2009-03-16 Thread Michael Rueger
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: If I manually call #determineCurrentLocale manually to set CurrentPlatform, its locale becomes ja-JP but knownEnvironments only contains key for "ja" and couldn't find it. Please try the attached patch. Thanks! Michael LanguageEnvironment class-localeID.st.gz Descr