Re: [Pharo-project] old debugger and Cloasure vm on unix

2009-04-01 Thread Damien Cassou
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Dale Henrichs wrote: > What a coincidence, I was poking around in the same area and have found that > you need to use 10259-ClosureBeta1 you'll get what appears to be the right > image ... at least only 2 of the tests fail... Yes, dev-images are not built on top

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] VM for closures on pharo web site

2009-04-01 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > so would you please link to > http://squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.11.2-bin.zip as the newest > official Win32 VM and keep the link to Exupery as an optional alternative. done -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seaside

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] VM for closures on pharo web site

2009-04-01 Thread Damien Cassou
Ok, I've updated the page On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Hi Damien, > >>> damien could you edit a page on the wiki with a link to these vms? >> >>http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2 >> > > I dont know why you linked to the Exupery VM for Win32 on this pag

Re: [Pharo-project] old debugger and Cloasure vm on unix

2009-04-01 Thread Dale Henrichs
- "Dale Henrichs" wrote: | I'm trying to reproduce the problem that Michael Roberts reported. But | I'm running into a couple of problems. | | I'm running on a linux system, so I grabbed exupery-vm-0.15-linux.tz | from the downloads page on google. I'm using the prebuilt squeak vm in | this

[Pharo-project] old debugger and Cloasure vm on unix

2009-04-01 Thread Dale Henrichs
I'm trying to reproduce the problem that Michael Roberts reported. But I'm running into a couple of problems. I'm running on a linux system, so I grabbed exupery-vm-0.15-linux.tz from the downloads page on google. I'm using the prebuilt squeak vm in this download. I grabbed pharo0.1-10259dev09.

[Pharo-project] Plugins overview

2009-04-01 Thread Torsten Bergmann
So more plugins identified include: Rome, DBus, GStreamer, Ogg, Kedama, DShowVideoDecoderPlugin, Windows File dialog plugin, Spoons flow plugin Bye Torsten -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 ___

[Pharo-project] [ANN] VM for closures on pharo web site

2009-04-01 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Damien wrote: >I really don't care :-). I did that because I didn't know the linked >VM had closure support. Bryce wrote: >You're probably better off using Andreas's VM than mine for general use. Hi Damien, so would you please link to http://squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.11.2-bin.

[Pharo-project] Schedule

2009-04-01 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Yes - Pharo is late. But I think it's worth to wait until Unicode and Closures are completely integrated and bugs have settled down. But someone should adjust the schedule: http://pharo-project.org/home Thanks Torsten -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen

Re: [Pharo-project] SUnit History

2009-04-01 Thread Alexandre Bergel
yes, I will fix this Alexandre On 1 Apr 2009, at 19:39, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > so will you fix it? Alex? > > > Stef > >> Hi Lukas, >> >> Thanks for your review. We made this in a couple of days. >> You suggested some cool changes, indeed. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 1 Apr 2009, at

Re: [Pharo-project] about the closure

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
yeap you re right > I definitely care about the tests all green ;-) I just don't want to > debug into tests when there is no point. I'm not in favour of the > wiki idea either. So I'll have a look at expected failures. sounds > like we need to mark those two of Lukas' if they are not already >

[Pharo-project] About unicodeToMacRoman

2009-04-01 Thread Nicolas Cellier
Hello list, that's just a detail, but I do not much like Character>>unicodeToMacRoman. Why? Because a Character does not explicitely carry encoding information. On the contrary, Character are implicitely considered as unicode encoded in 99% of code. So, pretending a Character can change encoding

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] VM for closures on pharo web site

2009-04-01 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 14:48 +0200, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Hi Damien, > > >> damien could you edit a page on the wiki with a link to these vms? > > > >http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2 > > > > I dont know why you linked to the Exupery VM for Win32 on this page? > Maybe because

Re: [Pharo-project] about the closure

2009-04-01 Thread Michael Roberts
I definitely care about the tests all green ;-) I just don't want to debug into tests when there is no point. I'm not in favour of the wiki idea either. So I'll have a look at expected failures. sounds like we need to mark those two of Lukas' if they are not already thanks, Mike On Wed, Apr 1

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] VM for closures on pharo web site

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> Thanks for the information. Since I'm only a mac user I was not aware of that So we will link to the others. Stef >>> I dont know why you linked to the Exupery VM for Win32 on this page? > Maybe because Bryce wrote in [1] that his VM has the closure > bytecodes compiled in too. > > But AFAIK cl

Re: [Pharo-project] SUnit History

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
so will you fix it? Alex? Stef > Hi Lukas, > > Thanks for your review. We made this in a couple of days. > You suggested some cool changes, indeed. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 1 Apr 2009, at 12:07, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> I have a few questions to the authors of the SUnit History feature:

Re: [Pharo-project] Changing the size of a font

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
>> > that's why you are a Professor and I'm a student ;-) Ok luke. I just know that I feel stupid when I do not know something and that this is cool to collect these snippets :) Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr h

Re: [Pharo-project] about the closure

2009-04-01 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I would like to see the pattern "all tests always green" (except for expected failures, see below). Maybe this is too rigorous in practice since not everybody seems to care that much about tests. It would mean that no new updates are pushed in the stream until all tests that were broken by

Re: [Pharo-project] about the closure

2009-04-01 Thread Michael Roberts
It would be good to document this knowledge of what is expected in our test suites. Especially if some are known to fail. Is there a pattern already in use? E.g. Method comment, pragma, wiki page entry? If not what should we adopt? Thanks mike On 4/1/09, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 01.04.2009, a

[Pharo-project] Interesting link

2009-04-01 Thread Damien Cassou
Damien P just gave me this link: http://factor-language.blogspot.com/2009/04/sup-dawg-we-heard-you-like-smalltalk-so.html Might interest some of you -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@li

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] VM for closures on pharo web site

2009-04-01 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > So the new pharo closure image from Marcus [4] should work with > that too and I would rather see the standard Squeak VM linked on the page > if we have full closure support there. But I would mention Exupery Win32 VM > as another option.

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] VM for closures on pharo web site

2009-04-01 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Bryce Kampjes > wrote: > > I was afraid that mentioning that would cause confusion. Exupery is a > > JIT written in Smalltalk, the compiler runs as a normal Smalltalk > > process in the image just like any ot

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] #10262cl

2009-04-01 Thread Dale Henrichs
- "Stéphane Ducasse" wrote: | It would be great. I mean Really great. | Even if we want to have a better OB based may be system having a fall | | back is really important Okay ... I'll take a crack at the old debugger... Dale ___ Pharo-project

[Pharo-project] [ANN] VM for closures on pharo web site

2009-04-01 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Damien, >> damien could you edit a page on the wiki with a link to these vms? > >http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2 > I dont know why you linked to the Exupery VM for Win32 on this page? Maybe because Bryce wrote in [1] that his VM has the closure bytecodes compiled in too.

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] VM for closures on pharo web site

2009-04-01 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > damien could you edit a page on the wiki with a link to these vms? http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2 -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st ___ Pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] SUnit History

2009-04-01 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi Lukas, Thanks for your review. We made this in a couple of days. You suggested some cool changes, indeed. Cheers, Alexandre On 1 Apr 2009, at 12:07, Lukas Renggli wrote: > I have a few questions to the authors of the SUnit History feature: > > 1. I noticed is that all the results are stored

Re: [Pharo-project] Changing the size of a font

2009-04-01 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > you see damien :) that's why you are a Professor and I'm a student ;-) -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.f

Re: [Pharo-project] SUnit History

2009-04-01 Thread Lukas Renggli
3. Why the heck is the timestamp of the last run a String :-( On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > I have a few questions to the authors of the SUnit History feature: > > 1. I noticed is that all the results are stored in a dictionary of > TestResult mapping the classes to thei

[Pharo-project] SUnit History

2009-04-01 Thread Lukas Renggli
I have a few questions to the authors of the SUnit History feature: 1. I noticed is that all the results are stored in a dictionary of TestResult mapping the classes to their last result. When I delete tests, these obsolete classes remain references from the dictionary and thus never get garbage c

[Pharo-project] [ANN] #10262cl

2009-04-01 Thread Torsten Bergmann
On 01.04.2009, at 11:29, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Apparently this is realted to the bug I mentioned can you test the > fixes that mike sent. Yes it fixes the problem: '~test' encodeForHTTP now does not give an DNU anymore and OB is loading. Thx Torsten -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX Mul

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] #10262cl

2009-04-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01.04.2009, at 11:29, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Apparently this is realted to the bug I mentioned can you test the > fixes that mike sent. I added that to the tracker: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=706 -- Marcus Denker -- den...@acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de

Re: [Pharo-project] about the closure

2009-04-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01.04.2009, at 11:31, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > On Apr 1, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >>> lukas is it normal that we get 3 tests yellow - did you get the same >>> in your image? >> >> #testToDoOutsideTemp and #testWhileModificationBefore are broken. I >> don't think that should

Re: [Pharo-project] how do replace barVal by barValTmp in a method?

2009-04-01 Thread Lukas Renggli
With the regular expression extensions to OB-Refactory it is possible to search and replace strings across a selected set of methods. I understand that this is not what you want either, but I like the feature ;-) Lukas On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Yes I should have

Re: [Pharo-project] isMorphic left over

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks marcus. I should undertsand how to get internet in TGV On Apr 1, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 31.03.2009, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> While playing with closure I got some isMorphic so I cleaned that. >> > > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=703

Re: [Pharo-project] about the closure

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Apr 1, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> lukas is it normal that we get 3 tests yellow - did you get the same >> in your image? > > #testToDoOutsideTemp and #testWhileModificationBefore are broken. I > don't think that should stop us from integrating the closures into > Pharo. Most "i

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] #10262cl

2009-04-01 Thread Lukas Renggli
I guess it is my fault. I forwarded it to various people, probably just not to the right ones ;-) Lukas On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Because marcus was not aware of it. > I will add it this evening (if nobody does it before). > > Stef > > On Mar 31, 2009, at 10:35 P

Re: [Pharo-project] how do replace barVal by barValTmp in a method?

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Yes I should have asked without using rb. I think that any texteditor should have that feature :) Stef On Apr 1, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > The refactoring browser provides "refactor code > rename temporary". > Make sure to have a temporary variable selected before trying to > inv

Re: [Pharo-project] SUniGUI profiled DNU

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Strange it did not show up. Stef On Apr 1, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> From the Test Runner. Click on "Run Coverage". > > Lukas > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Stéphane Ducasse > wrote: >> lukas how to you invoke the coverage for a test? >> I tried with profiled and I got a

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] #10262cl

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Apparently this is realted to the bug I mentioned can you test the fixes that mike sent. Stef On Apr 1, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > When evaluating > > "ScriptLoader loadSuperOB" > > in this image I'll get nil DNU #charCode in the Method > UTF8DecomposedTextConverter>>nextF

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] #10262cl

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Because marcus was not aware of it. I will add it this evening (if nobody does it before). Stef On Mar 31, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> on the closure related note, what is perhaps interesting in a >> workspace is >> >> values := (1 to: 5) collect: [:each | [each] ]. >> values co

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] #10262cl

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
It would be great. I mean Really great. Even if we want to have a better OB based may be system having a fall back is really important On Mar 31, 2009, at 10:07 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote: > > - "Michael Roberts" wrote: > > | guys I have done a quick test of the closure image, with the mac VM

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] #10262cl

2009-04-01 Thread Marcus Denker
> > That's a bug, but already fixed by Eliot. I don't know why the patch > is not included with the image? Load the attachement. Because it was not in the bugtracker ;-) Mike now added it to http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=685 Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- den

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] VM for closures on pharo web site

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
damien could you edit a page on the wiki with a link to these vms? Thanks On Apr 1, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Bryce Kampjes > wrote: >> I was afraid that mentioning that would cause confusion. Exupery is a >> JIT written in Smalltalk, the compile

Re: [Pharo-project] while chasing some block arg assignment

2009-04-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 31.03.2009, at 20:55, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > I did > > ImageSegment compileAll > and I got a error in SyntaxError apparently it may happen that the > category is nil > > > > > I'm the train so cannot add to the bugtracker. If someone can it > would be great. http://code.google.com/p/

Re: [Pharo-project] Changing the size of a font

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
you see damien :) On Apr 1, 2009, at 8:26 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CodeSnippets > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Alexandre Bergel > wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Is there a not-so-slow way to change programmatically the size of a >> font? >> I tried 'TextSty

Re: [Pharo-project] cleaning some block arg assignemt :)

2009-04-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 31.03.2009, at 21:44, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > 1.cs> > > now we can recompile them :) > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=704 -- Marcus Denker -- den...@acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-

Re: [Pharo-project] isMorphic left over

2009-04-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 31.03.2009, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > While playing with closure I got some isMorphic so I cleaned that. > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=703 -- Marcus Denker -- den...@acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de ___ Pharo-pr

Re: [Pharo-project] about the closure

2009-04-01 Thread Lukas Renggli
> lukas is it normal that we get 3 tests yellow - did you get the same > in your image? #testToDoOutsideTemp and #testWhileModificationBefore are broken. I don't think that should stop us from integrating the closures into Pharo. Most "industrial strength" Smalltalk implementations have many more

Re: [Pharo-project] how do replace barVal by barValTmp in a method?

2009-04-01 Thread Lukas Renggli
The refactoring browser provides "refactor code > rename temporary". Make sure to have a temporary variable selected before trying to invoke that command. Lukas On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Hi > > this is several time that I need such simple edit function and I do >

Re: [Pharo-project] SUniGUI profiled DNU

2009-04-01 Thread Lukas Renggli
>From the Test Runner. Click on "Run Coverage". Lukas On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > lukas how to you invoke the coverage for a test? > I tried with profiled and I got a DNU. > > Stef > > From: zork > To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: [BUG]UndefinedOb

[Pharo-project] [ANN] #10262cl

2009-04-01 Thread Torsten Bergmann
It crashes with the universe installer: The web location has a ~ sign (unix server) in it with a previous / character: So: 'http://foo.bar/~test' asUrl will crash in printString now (see inspector) while 'http://foo.bar~test' asUrl will not. Bye Torsten -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Kompletta

[Pharo-project] Build, send and comment on Plugins page

2009-04-01 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Michael, since I cross posted to squeak-dev, vm-dev and pharo-dev (yes I know its bad) here some comments from Andreas and Bert from squeak-dev: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2009-April/date.html maybe you could add Rome, DBus, GStreamer There is also DShowVideoDeco

[Pharo-project] [ANN] #10262cl

2009-04-01 Thread Torsten Bergmann
When evaluating "ScriptLoader loadSuperOB" in this image I'll get nil DNU #charCode in the Method UTF8DecomposedTextConverter>>nextFromStream: (with both - the newest win32 vm from Andreas and the latest Exupery VM with closures). Thx Torsten -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6

[Pharo-project] Build, send and comment on Plugins page

2009-04-01 Thread Torsten Bergmann
There is a new page on the pharo website [1] with an overview on all plugins available for squeak and pharo. Plugins should be easily downloadable so one dont has to rebuild them from scratch again and again. This is especially for newbies with no knowledge of the tool chain to build plugins. Fe

[Pharo-project] isMorphic left over

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
While playing with closure I got some isMorphic so I cleaned that. isMorphicRemoval.1.cs Description: Binary data Stef___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-pr

[Pharo-project] while chasing some block arg assignment

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I did ImageSegment compileAll and I got a error in SyntaxError apparently it may happen that the category is nil StrangeProblemWithSyntaxError.1.cs Description: Binary data I'm the train so cannot add to the bugtracker. If someone can it would be great. Stef_

[Pharo-project] SUniGUI profiled DNU

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
lukas how to you invoke the coverage for a test? I tried with profiled and I got a DNU. Stef From: zork To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: [BUG]UndefinedObject(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #terminate here insert explanation of what you were doing, suspect changes you've made and s

Re: [Pharo-project] about the closure

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
So the semantics you describe is that the closure refers to variables until it is valued and not their values And of course there is a difference whether the variable is a closure temporary or whether it is a enclosing scope one. lukas is it normal that we get 3 tests yellow - did you get the

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] #10262cl

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Why I love closures ;) |tt| tt := Transcript. [1 to: 10 do: [:i | tt show: i printString; show: '*'. Processor yield ]. tt flush] fork. [100 to: 110 do: [:i | tt show: i printString; show: '-'. Process

[Pharo-project] cleaning some block arg assignemt :)

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
recompilingImageSegment.1.cs Description: Binary data recompilingSystemSupport.1.cs Description: Binary data recompilingImage.3.cs Description: Binary data now we can recompile them :) Stef___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforg

[Pharo-project] how do replace barVal by barValTmp in a method?

2009-04-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi this is several time that I need such simple edit function and I do not suceed. Does one of you know how do replace barVal by barValTmp in a method? Setf ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.