Re: [Pharo-project] cairo support

2009-09-27 Thread Michael Rueger
Michael Rueger wrote: >> I'm in favor of pushing the CairoGraphics package and porting Rome to it. Despite (or on top of? ;-) ) my arguments in the previous mail that would be the way to go either way :-) My argument basically is that we should avoid "trapping" people into the Cairo back-end. I

Re: [Pharo-project] Stef's name in LaTeX

2009-09-27 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
The braces around the $e do not seem to hurt anything, but you are probably correct that they can be omitted. Thanks for the ~. Otherwise, I'm trying to get the title, emphasis and capitalization correct. Bill -Original Message- From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [

Re: [Pharo-project] Stef's name in LaTeX

2009-09-27 Thread Andres Valloud
Hmmm... just off the top of my head, I think that would be Dr.~St\'ephane Ducasse The ~ is there to tell LaTeX that yes, there's a period, but it's not an "end of sentence" period, so don't treat the separation between the period and the S as a flexible space. Andres. Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:

[Pharo-project] Monticello15 file support?

2009-09-27 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Dear list members, As part of a data mining process I need to use many external files. File based developement is boring and error prone, as other developers should reproduce the same directory structure to load my packages in their images, etc. I can use InstanceEncoder but sometimes

Re: [Pharo-project] cairo support

2009-09-27 Thread Michael Rueger
Damien Cassou wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Stéphane Ducasse > wrote: >> should we push rome or the cairo graphics package? >> I kno wthat they are not at the same level of abstarction but I prefer >> to ask. >> Or should rome be based on the cairo graphics package? > > I'm in favor o

Re: [Pharo-project] Mac carbon VM goes to 4.2.2Beta1U

2009-09-27 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:49 AM, John M McIntosh wrote: > I've updated the Macintosh Carbon VM to include the latest changes for > serial port logic which was driven by changes in the Unix serial port > plugin. > Plus Bert identified that horizontal wheel scrolling didn't work > correctly, oddly i

[Pharo-project] Citing Pharo

2009-09-27 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
What is the proper way to cite Pharo? Is there a proper way? :) If not, we might take some guidance from R, which sprays out the text below in response to citation(). Bill To cite R in publications use: R Development Core Team (2008). R: A language and environment for statistical comput

[Pharo-project] Stef's name in LaTeX

2009-09-27 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef, It's only fair to immortalize you in a final report on a grant. As near as I can tell, it should be: Dr.\ St\'{e}phane Ducasse Let me know if that's not right. Bill ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http:

[Pharo-project] Mac carbon VM goes to 4.2.2Beta1U

2009-09-27 Thread John M McIntosh
I've updated the Macintosh Carbon VM to include the latest changes for serial port logic which was driven by changes in the Unix serial port plugin. Plus Bert identified that horizontal wheel scrolling didn't work correctly, oddly it's never worked since I think 2002. People must not use t

Re: [Pharo-project] Sunit3.2

2009-09-27 Thread Lukas Renggli
> I tried to load 32.fullNiall in pharo and it -> DNU > TestCase class>>methodChanged: > > I checked and I do not understand where this method is coming from. That's because TestCase registers for change notification and these methods are suddenly gone. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-r

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Where to find the FT2Plugin sources

2009-09-27 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Damien, if you find it could you please update this: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/VMPluginOverview -- Forwarded message -- From: Damien Cassou Date: Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:25 AM Subject: [squeak-dev] Where to find the FT2Plugin sources To: The general-purpose Squeak develo

Re: [Pharo-project] Sunit3.2

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
may be we should say that to niall. why can we have extensions in this great frameworks of 3 class long? >>> I also think that SUnit 3.2 should be packaged differently. >>> Now this is annoying to get all the wrapper code. >>> Any idea how to get rid of them in a reproduceable way? >> >> Ideally

Re: [Pharo-project] Sunit3.2

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Sep 27, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> I also think that SUnit 3.2 should be packaged differently. >> Now this is annoying to get all the wrapper code. >> Any idea how to get rid of them in a reproduceable way? > > Ideally we had an SUnit-Base package that is identical to SUnit on >

Re: [Pharo-project] Sunit3.2

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I tried to load 32.fullNiall in pharo and it -> DNU TestCase class>>methodChanged: I checked and I do not understand where this method is coming from. valueWithArguments: anArray startingFrom: startIndex "Do the same as my parent, but make sure that all actions that do not give er

Re: [Pharo-project] Sunit3.2

2009-09-27 Thread Lukas Renggli
> I also think that SUnit 3.2 should be packaged differently. > Now this is annoying to get all the wrapper code. > Any idea how to get rid of them in a reproduceable way? Ideally we had an SUnit-Base package that is identical to SUnit on other platforms and then have the rest of the code as a sep

Re: [Pharo-project] Sunit3.2

2009-09-27 Thread Lukas Renggli
> Now we could do that incrementally. Do you know if SUnit3.2 has tests? Yes, more than SUnit 3.1. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-

Re: [Pharo-project] Sunit3.2

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I also think that SUnit 3.2 should be packaged differently. Now this is annoying to get all the wrapper code. Any idea how to get rid of them in a reproduceable way? Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gfo

Re: [Pharo-project] Sunit3.2

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi lukas >> Yes, that's what I wrote in the second paragraph :-) I could not find your second paragraph. I would prefer to avoid to lose what have been added to SUnit. Now I read the SUnit version of keith and there are only a couple of methods that do not exist in pharo from his version. I d

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugger fails to launch after stacktrace is dumped to SqueakDebug file

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks do you know how we can reproduce it? Stef On Sep 27, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > VM: Mac OS - intel - 1058 - Squeak3.8.1 of '28 Aug 2006' [latest > update: #6747] Squeak VM 4.1.1b2 > Image: Pharo1.0beta [Latest update: #10451] > > > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 4:41 AM

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugger fails to launch after stacktrace is dumped to SqueakDebug file

2009-09-27 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
VM: Mac OS - intel - 1058 - Squeak3.8.1 of '28 Aug 2006' [latest update: #6747] Squeak VM 4.1.1b2 Image: Pharo1.0beta [Latest update: #10451] On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > we need to know with which version! > Else this is useless. > > stef > > On Sep 26, 2009, at

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] STicky

2009-09-27 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Stef if you loaded STickySq in Pharo I cannot guarantee to work properly because one difference between the Pharo an Squeak are some removed keyboard hooking methods in HandMorph. I've tested in #10462 and it works fine too. If the problem persists please let me know. Hernán 2009/9/27 Hernán Mor

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] STicky

2009-09-27 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Ok, maybe this is going to be a sticky post? :) I have no problems installing with the following script in a Pharo-Core #10458 : | instClass | instClass := Smalltalk at: #Installer ifAbsent: [ ScriptLoader new installingInstaller ]. instClass ss project: 'STicky'; install: 'STicky'

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] STicky

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok now if you want people to use it provide a loader that loads everything. Because so far I could not make it work. Because extra packages are missin. Stef On Sep 27, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > That's one idea. Although there are many applications. I'm using it > now t

Re: [Pharo-project] feedback on CLFramework

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Sep 27, 2009, at 11:43 AM, nullPointer wrote: > > > > Stéphane Ducasse-2 wrote: >> >> In VisualWorks you use the builder and it generates a class for you >> a bit in the same way then you code the missing code. >> >> You said: >> >>> Of course, but I don´t know do it of another way. Literal ar

[Pharo-project] [update] 10462

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
- Issue 1153: Many occurrences of "WriteStream on: aCollection" which can be replaced with "aCollection writeStream" Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] STicky

2009-09-27 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
That's one idea. Although there are many applications. I'm using it now to test a translator from Smalltalk to PQF (an insane query language), but the course of acquisition of a natural language is a very complex process, so a linguist can write a translator which display dynamically inflectional s

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] STicky

2009-09-27 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Hi Stef, STicky is for Pharo and STickySq is for Squeak. I've decided to provide two separate packages because it's easier for me to make changes in each ST separately, without worring about collateral consequences in another. Cheers, Hernán 2009/9/27 Stéphane Ducasse : > what is the diff betwe

Re: [Pharo-project] Sunit3.2

2009-09-27 Thread Lukas Renggli
> What about replacing Pharo's SUnit by Nial's and then re-add lost features? Yes, that's what I wrote in the second paragraph :-) Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr h

Re: [Pharo-project] feedback on CLFramework

2009-09-27 Thread nullPointer
Stéphane Ducasse-2 wrote: > > In VisualWorks you use the builder and it generates a class for you > a bit in the same way then you code the missing code. > > You said: > >> Of course, but I don´t know do it of another way. Literal array is >> very >> complicated for me. >> Xml serialization a

Re: [Pharo-project] feedback on CLFramework

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Sep 27, 2009, at 11:09 AM, nullPointer wrote: > > > Stéphane Ducasse-2 wrote: >> >> I can tell you I cannot read your code well. >> So if you want to really have fun with Smalltalk, change. >> > > But I´m cannot read then with that format. I have fun with > Smalltalk, but > for fun i need >

Re: [Pharo-project] Sunit3.2

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I have the impression that Sunit should be an API specification not a implementation common to all the dialect. So I would really like to see if nial has some tests for SUnit3.2 and which ones pass and fail on pharo. Stef On Sep 27, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Sun, Sep 27,

[Pharo-project] [update] #10461

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
- Issue 973: Cleaning better MessageTally - Issue 1234: MessageTally tallySends: [3.14159 printString] broken http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1234 ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http:/

Re: [Pharo-project] feedback on CLFramework

2009-09-27 Thread nullPointer
Stéphane Ducasse-2 wrote: > > I can tell you I cannot read your code well. > So if you want to really have fun with Smalltalk, change. > But I´m cannot read then with that format. I have fun with Smalltalk, but for fun i need don´t write the code of apocalyptic way :)) Exists the possibility o

Re: [Pharo-project] Sunit3.2

2009-09-27 Thread Damien Cassou
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > I tried to merge the changes with mcz packages that Niall prepared. As > it says in the commit comment the code is broken. The difference of > SUnit in Pharo is so substantial that almost every method was a > conflict. I spent a few hours an

Re: [Pharo-project] feedback on CLFramework

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I watch the video and this is cool >> PS. I added recently the CLSplitterPanel widget -> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbd9bbfxNB4 In VisualWorks you use the builder and it generates a class for you a bit in the same way then you code the missing code. You said: > Of course, but I don´t kno

Re: [Pharo-project] Sunit3.2

2009-09-27 Thread Lukas Renggli
Hi Stef, I tried to merge the changes with mcz packages that Niall prepared. As it says in the commit comment the code is broken. The difference of SUnit in Pharo is so substantial that almost every method was a conflict. I spent a few hours and tried to merge the changes manually, but in the end

[Pharo-project] Sunit3.2

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
lukas what should we do? SUnit-lr.76.mczFilename:SUnit-lr.76.mcz Author: Timestamp: 13 September 2009 1:07:41 pm UUID: df933429-8228-4ae9-938b-3565231fd2f5 Ancestors: SUnit-adrian_lienhard.75.mcz Message: Trying to merge the SUnit 3.2 changes, but the difference of P

[Pharo-project] I would like to have feedback on Compiler PopUp plague

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1224 if somebody can have a look about what I did it would be cool stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-proje

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Issue 1129 in pharo: UIManager #request: and #multilineRequest do not distinguish between empty and cancel

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I know now waht andreas propose is more a process to make sure that other places where this should be changed will be noticed automatically Stef On Sep 27, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Stéphane Ducasse > wrote: >> I kind of agree on this one. >> So

Re: [Pharo-project] feedback on CLFramework

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
>> > Sorry, but i don´t like that format of code. For me is not readable. > I don´t > know when starts a block or if is a loop or condition block.That > problem is > more big when exists various identations. I´m coming of VB and C# > and that > way seems anarchist for me :) my cerebellum is

Re: [Pharo-project] key pressed

2009-09-27 Thread Tudor Girba
Thanks for the replies. Actually, I am in the code of selectedItem: of a list and I would like to add to the current selection if Shift is pressed. The problem is that I do not have access there at the event. Cheers, Doru On 27 Sep 2009, at 03:14, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > +1 to Sig's comme

Re: [Pharo-project] cairo support

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
ok cool! On Sep 27, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Stéphane Ducasse > wrote: >> should we push rome or the cairo graphics package? >> I kno wthat they are not at the same level of abstarction but I >> prefer >> to ask. >> Or should rome be based on th

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Issue 1129 in pharo: UIManager #request: and #multilineRequest do not distinguish between empty and cancel

2009-09-27 Thread Damien Cassou
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > I kind of agree on this one. > So what is the preferred solution. > Now this is important to be able to distinguish an empty string from a > cancel. I'm not sure. I think the fixes are small enough to apply everywhere to avoid complicatin

Re: [Pharo-project] cairo support

2009-09-27 Thread Damien Cassou
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > should we push rome or the cairo graphics package? > I kno wthat they are not at the same level of abstarction but I prefer > to ask. > Or should rome be based on the cairo graphics package? I'm in favor of pushing the CairoGraphics packa

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] STicky

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
what is the diff between sticky and stickysq I like the name... On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:20 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > STicky is a pluggable real-time evaluator and/or translator workspace > aimed to learn languages. For a quick overview please take a look at > the presentation video: htt

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] STicky

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
But for beginner what is the difference between that and a Smalltalk interpreter. The idea is that they can compare with their own language the smalltalk syntax? it could work now when trnaslating to Java you can generate really bad code to express smalltalk syntax? Stef On Sep 26, 2009, at

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo1.0-10451-BETAweb09.09.3 in FireFox

2009-09-27 Thread Damien Cassou
2009/9/25 Dennis Schetinin : > I can't log in at the 'main' page (http://127.0.0.1:8080/seaside/pier) in > Pier. It just ignores all the inputs (both correct and incorrect) simply > redirecting from input form back to the main page. But from the Blog or > About page it works correctly. It's all usi

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] STicky

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I'm confused Smalltalk to Java is not really a smalltalk to java but a a minimal subset and it is quite slow. Do you have a full smalltalk interpreter? I'm looking for that (I would like to code one that deals with explicit returns and exception On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:20 PM, Hernán Morales Dura

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugger fails to launch after stacktrace is dumped to SqueakDebug file

2009-09-27 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
we need to know with which version! Else this is useless. stef On Sep 26, 2009, at 10:38 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1249 > > I marked it as 1.0 > > It was reported by John Toohey > > Best > > Mariano > __