Re: [Pharo-project] Packages in Inbox

2009-11-03 Thread Simon Denier
On 3 nov. 2009, at 22:12, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Why are some moose packages (Moose-Finder, Moose-OpeningWizard, ...) > in the PharoInbox? I dont think they belong to the core? Indeed, I guess they were saved here by mistake. They can be safely deleted (BTW, I dont know how to do that?) Cyr

Re: [Pharo-project] RC1 image build failure

2009-11-03 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2009/11/4 Schwab,Wilhelm K : > Hello all, > > Whatever is happening, it keeps happening, and on two different machines, but > both Ubuntu 9.10, FWIW.  Attached is a shot of the whatever-it's-called > window; the promised emergency evaluator does not appear (not that I would > know what to do wit

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages in Inbox

2009-11-03 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Simon Denier wrote: > > On 3 nov. 2009, at 22:12, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > > Why are some moose packages (Moose-Finder, Moose-OpeningWizard, ...) > > in the PharoInbox? I dont think they belong to the core? > > Indeed, I guess they were saved here by mistake. Th

Re: [Pharo-project] Hide some pages from the wiki

2009-11-03 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Michael Roberts wrote: > I archive them periodically. What is the problem? It shows progress on > the wiki. > > There is no problem with the progress. The only thing is that I wouldn't like the wiki be like the squeak swiki where you have infinite number of pages a

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-Project] Merging with Monticello

2009-11-03 Thread Lukas Renggli
For cherry-picking you display the changes from your image to the code to be merged and from the context menu you choose the individual items to load. Afterwards "Adopt" the manually merged version. Lukas 2009/11/3 Gary Chambers : > Not that I've found. Would be nice but goes pretty deep into the

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-Project] Merging with Monticello

2009-11-03 Thread Gary Chambers
Not that I've found. Would be nice but goes pretty deep into the guts of MC's merge processes. If it were easy I'd have done it already. Worth a go with a small team and/or anyone who's had a go at improving MC.I'd be happy to help out. On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 16:07 -0300, Hernan Wilkinson wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] Compiler compile:

2009-11-03 Thread Lukas Renggli
> Well, I can rename the compile: method and post to PharoInbox, if > anyone is interested. Also I agree that it is confusing, but there are tons of projects that depend on this function. #compile: and #compile:classified: are about the only two compiler related methods that are available cross pl

Re: [Pharo-project] JPEG plugin.

2009-11-03 Thread John M McIntosh
On 2009-11-03, at 1:01 PM, Andreas Raab wrote: > John M McIntosh wrote: >> I'm looking at the JPEG plugin and wondering? >> (a) Should I convert that to using the os-x platforms JPEG >> implementation, versus our usage of the source from the >> "Independent JPEG Group's software"? > > Seems l

Re: [Pharo-project] Compiler compile:

2009-11-03 Thread Igor Stasenko
Things is not so easy as it looks at first sight. The problem here, i think, that compiling process is overburden with different other functionality, which not related to compiling per se, but related to recording the method source, and error handling. The compilation should be broken on stages:

[Pharo-project] JPEG plugin.

2009-11-03 Thread John M McIntosh
I'm looking at the JPEG plugin and wondering? (a) Should I convert that to using the os-x platforms JPEG implementation, versus our usage of the source from the "Independent JPEG Group's software" ? (b) Should we consider upgrading the VMs from version "6b 27- Mar-1998" to the more current

Re: [Pharo-project] RC1 image build failure

2009-11-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Nicolas, I doubt the images are corrupt, unless the download is somehow damaged. #findElementOrNil: works; the problem is more likely that the missing protocol in SharedSet2 lead to an unrecoverable meltdown. My question is how it worked as long as it did??? Bill -Original Message--

Re: [Pharo-project] FW: vm on ubuntu

2009-11-03 Thread John M McIntosh
Mmm, well assuming you compiled/linked your own VM, then in the interp.c it would have something like /* Automatically generated from Squeak on 17 September 2009 10:11:02 am by VMMaker 3.11.3 */ at the top, what does the one you have say? Oddly both supplied attributes speak of the imag

Re: [Pharo-project] Compiler compile:

2009-11-03 Thread Igor Stasenko
2009/11/3 Lukas Renggli : >> Well, I can rename the compile: method and post to PharoInbox, if >> anyone is interested. > > Also I agree that it is confusing, but there are tons of projects that > depend on this function. #compile: and #compile:classified: are about > the only two compiler related

[Pharo-project] FW: vm on ubuntu

2009-11-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
-Original Message- From: Schwab,Wilhelm K Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:12 PM To: john...@smalltalkconsulting.com Subject: RE: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu John, My ageing image that did the mouse wheel crash is as follows: SmalltalkImage current getSystemAttribute: 1004 'Pharo0

[Pharo-project] Very simple package save/load tool

2009-11-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Hello all, Attached is something that you might find helpful, and it's worth almost everything it cost you. The class comment briefly describes what it is supposed to do. Better ideas will be cheerfully stolen. For now, this seems to be helping me to find methods that I failed to package, av

[Pharo-project] Packages in Inbox

2009-11-03 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Why are some moose packages (Moose-Finder, Moose-OpeningWizard, ...) in the PharoInbox? I dont think they belong to the core? Any ideas? Bye T. -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 _

Re: [Pharo-project] RC1 image build failure

2009-11-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Nicolas, If I have the order wrong, then I submit we have yet another bug: the text spilled onto my display reads in part: "Original error: MessageNotUnderstood: SharedQueue2>>flushAllSuchThat:." You might be correct in flagging #findElementOrNil:, but the text suggests to me that this is a kn

Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu

2009-11-03 Thread John M McIntosh
Well beyond the simple memory access violation (seg fault) type of failure then. (a) if you have configured your vm to use a limited amount of memory and you enter a recursive loop the VM likely will thrash thru the available memory in a small number of milliseconds on a fast machine then ex

Re: [Pharo-project] Compiler compile:

2009-11-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
There are a lot of things that are worse in the Squeak image. I'm not saying this is good and should not improve, but if those selectors are spread over suitable classes (acting as entry points) with some convenience methods among the list, it's not necessarily that much worse than Dolphin's or

Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu

2009-11-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
John, I would be happy to give a reproducible example, but one eludes me at present. To add to the fun, I have now seen the image quit on a second Linux box; this time, my laptop. I am fairly certain that it crashed over a mouse wheel event. Both machines are running Ubuntu 9.10, which might

Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu

2009-11-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Mike, A link would be great. A zip file would no doubt help some too, though http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ linked from http://squeakvm.org/unix/ is perhaps better than a zip. I _think_ users of a zip would want to see an individual file or two to check a theory about a bu

Re: [Pharo-project] [update] 1.0 #10439

2009-11-03 Thread Peter Hugosson-Miller
I guess this should be 10493, right? /Peter On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > - remove tests that depend on current font choice > - Issue 1331: DNU upon file-in of changeset > - Issue 1398: Seaside loading via ScriptManager broken > > ___ > http://www.adr

Re: [Pharo-project] IRC link in webpage is wrong

2009-11-03 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Torsten, thanks for the link. I added it. Adrian On Nov 3, 2009, at 13:10 , Torsten Bergmann wrote: > We can also link to http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=pharo- > project > providing access using a browser... > -- > Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla > Firef

Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu

2009-11-03 Thread Michael Roberts
well i was being slightly rhetorical. I don't think it makes sense to zip the sources, it has no value to me. If you are going to be building VMs then you must learn how that sub-community & process works. We should link the information John has provided somewhere. I would suggest detail on a wik

Re: [Pharo-project] Hide some pages from the wiki

2009-11-03 Thread Michael Roberts
I archive them periodically. What is the problem? It shows progress on the wiki. Cheers Mike On Tuesday, November 3, 2009, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi folks!  Is out there some Google Code gurú ?   The thing is this: there > are a lot of pages for the test results. For example, TestResul

Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu

2009-11-03 Thread Michael Roberts
The vm sources are in svn. You want them snapshotted in a zip? Perhaps just a link to the vm web page would do. Cheers mike On Tuesday, November 3, 2009, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > 2009/10/31 Schwab,Wilhelm K 'bsch...@anest.ufl.edu');>> > > > > > > > Agreed that naming it Pharo would b

Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu

2009-11-03 Thread John M McIntosh
>> Agreed that naming it Pharo would be better, but the >> name is of less interest to me than the vm sources. If there are >> Pharo-specific changes, I do not see them anywere?? There are no Pharo specific changes in the VM source. linux/unix/windows/mac platform support source at http://sque

Re: [Pharo-project] FW: vm on ubuntu

2009-11-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
John, I did not compile the vm; it is the second most recent from the Pharo web site. Bill -Original Message- From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of John M McIntosh Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:14 PM T

[Pharo-project] [update] 1.0 #10439

2009-11-03 Thread Adrian Lienhard
- remove tests that depend on current font choice - Issue 1331: DNU upon file-in of changeset - Issue 1398: Seaside loading via ScriptManager broken ___ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.g

Re: [Pharo-project] Compiler compile:

2009-11-03 Thread Niko Schwarz
Well, I can rename the compile: method and post to PharoInbox, if anyone is interested. Niko On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > +1 too. Fewer side-effects and/or more side-effect free refactoring is > better. > > Regards, Gary > > - Original Message - > From: "Igor St

Re: [Pharo-project] Server sockets, ephermal ports, and a Linux VM crash

2009-11-03 Thread John M McIntosh
A simple example, and a mantis/pharo bug report/ would be helpful. In looking at the code the printOn: for example invokes primitiveSocketConnectionStatus and that C code seems fairly paranoid about it's use of a private pointer that points to the supposed operating system data. However withou

[Pharo-project] [Pharo-Project] Merging with Monticello

2009-11-03 Thread Hernan Wilkinson
Is there a way to control what the Monticello's Merge tool merges? I mean, if there is a conflict you can decide what to do, but sometimes there are no conflicts (like for example removing a class) and there is no way to tell it not to merge that... Thanks Hernan. _

Re: [Pharo-project] RC1 image build failure

2009-11-03 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2009/11/4 Schwab,Wilhelm K : > Nicolas, > > I doubt the images are corrupt, unless the download is somehow damaged.   > #findElementOrNil: works; the problem is more likely that the missing > protocol in SharedSet2 lead to an unrecoverable meltdown.  My question is how > it worked as long as it d

[Pharo-project] Hide some pages from the wiki

2009-11-03 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi folks! Is out there some Google Code gurú ? The thing is this: there are a lot of pages for the test results. For example, TestResult10477, TestResult10481, etc. So...the amount of pages is too much. It is difficult to find something. I tried to see if there was a way to hide some pages from

Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu

2009-11-03 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
2009/10/31 Schwab,Wilhelm K > Agreed that naming it Pharo would be better, but the name is of less > interest to me than the vm sources. If there are Pharo-specific changes, I > do not see them anywere?? > > +1 This was discussed in another thread, but I cannot find it right now. It would be

Re: [Pharo-project] Error handling failure during load

2009-11-03 Thread Igor Stasenko
2009/11/3 Schwab,Wilhelm K : > Sig, > > How would Sake help? > It supports logging and defining a 'build process' http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/Sake > Bill > > > > -Original Message- > From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] Error handling failure during load

2009-11-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Sig, How would Sake help? Bill -Original Message- From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor Stasenko Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:32 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-pr

Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu

2009-11-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Are there any changes to the vm itself (or plugins)? -Original Message- From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Damien Cassou Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:27 AM To: Mariano Martinez Peck Cc: Pharo-projec

Re: [Pharo-project] Error handling failure during load

2009-11-03 Thread Igor Stasenko
2009/11/3 Schwab,Wilhelm K : > Hello all, > > I am gradually approaching a working load "script," but I just hit a new > wrinkle in RC1: at some point in the process I get offered an emergency > evaluator, which appears unable to open.  There is mention of looking for > something in the system d

Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu

2009-11-03 Thread Damien Cassou
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Damien: I updated the README.txt with the Doru's experience. I just add: > > "You may have an error saying that it did not find any "ia32-libs" package. > In that case, you can try: > > sudo apt-get update" > > I attach the new version

Re: [Pharo-project] Compiler compile:

2009-11-03 Thread Gary Chambers
+1 too. Fewer side-effects and/or more side-effect free refactoring is better. Regards, Gary - Original Message - From: "Igor Stasenko" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Compiler compile: > +1 Niko. > There should be an easy interface for comp

[Pharo-project] Error handling failure during load

2009-11-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Hello all, I am gradually approaching a working load "script," but I just hit a new wrinkle in RC1: at some point in the process I get offered an emergency evaluator, which appears unable to open. There is mention of looking for something in the system dictionary, and something about "system e

Re: [Pharo-project] lastKeystroke: ???

2009-11-03 Thread Igor Stasenko
Just checked.. there is senders of #lastKeyStroke: in my Pharo image, but no senders of #lastKeyStroke , to retreive it.. Which means that both these accessors can be just wiped out 2009/11/3 Stéphane Ducasse : > Thanks > this is probably that! > > Stef > > On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:16 PM, Hernán Mora

Re: [Pharo-project] lastKeystroke: ???

2009-11-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks this is probably that! Stef On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:16 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > Hi Stef, maybe they were removed cleaning eToys, because the methods > #lastKeystroke and #lastKeystroke: were under *etoys-e-toy support > method category. I've attached both under 'event handling

Re: [Pharo-project] Compiler compile:

2009-11-03 Thread Igor Stasenko
+1 Niko. There should be an easy interface for compiling the source code without installing the result into system. And of course, compiler should answer an instance of compiled method 2009/11/3 Niko Schwarz : > Hi list, > > consider this code: > > c := Compiler compile: 'meth "bla"  ^ 2'. > Try u

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: MouseOverHandler

2009-11-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
excellent! we are in alpha so we can be wild :) Stef On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:36 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > No arguments on weak stuff... VisualAge did a good job of those things > (perhaps the garbage collector was better integrated with the > concept). > > The driving force for our synchronisat

[Pharo-project] Compiler compile:

2009-11-03 Thread Niko Schwarz
Hi list, consider this code: c := Compiler compile: 'meth "bla" ^ 2'. Here, c will be set to the symbol #meth. And Compiler will be added a new method "meth". This is of course counter-intuitive, but it's kind of wired into the system. Behavior>compile: does certainly more than compile. It com

Re: [Pharo-project] Unicode support problems

2009-11-03 Thread Alexandr Batalshikov
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Michael Rueger wrote: > Alexandr Batalshikov wrote: > > For now, some unicode symbols is impossible input from keyboard > > (at least, russian letters 'Л', 'О', 'Н' on Windows platform). > > I found some solution of this problem: > > in method ParagraphEditor>>disp

[Pharo-project] ScriptLoader does not implement loadComanche

2009-11-03 Thread Torsten Bergmann
see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1398 If you are in a dev-image you can use: loadSeaside30 [ self gofer new squeaksource: 'Seaside30'; addPackage: 'LoadOrderTests'; load ] valueSupplyingAnswers: { {'Load

Re: [Pharo-project] Unicode support problems

2009-11-03 Thread Michael Rueger
Alexandr Batalshikov wrote: > For now, some unicode symbols is impossible input from keyboard > (at least, russian letters 'Л', 'О', 'Н' on Windows platform). > I found some solution of this problem: > in method ParagraphEditor>>dispatchOnKeyEvent:with: > replace line: > keyValue := keyValue i

[Pharo-project] ScriptLoader does not implement loadComanche

2009-11-03 Thread Hernan Wilkinson
Does anybody know why? If I want to load Seaside 3.0 from scratch using the ScriptLoader, it does not work becuase loadComanche is not implemented. I solved it copying the implementation from a previous version... ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-proj

[Pharo-project] IRC link in webpage is wrong

2009-11-03 Thread Torsten Bergmann
We can also link to http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=pharo-project providing access using a browser... -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser

[Pharo-project] Unicode support problems

2009-11-03 Thread Alexandr Batalshikov
For now, some unicode symbols is impossible input from keyboard (at least, russian letters 'Л', 'О', 'Н' on Windows platform). I found some solution of this problem: in method ParagraphEditor>>dispatchOnKeyEvent:with: replace line: keyValue := keyValue ifNil: [keyEvent keyValue]. with line: key

Re: [Pharo-project] IRC link in webpage is wrong

2009-11-03 Thread Adrian Lienhard
thanks. Adrian On Nov 2, 2009, at 21:52 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > If you go to http://www.pharo-project.org/community and see the > link of " > irc.freenode.net" you will see the link is > http://www.pharo-project.org/irc.freenode.net but that is wrong. I > think > it should be > >

Re: [Pharo-project] implementors and senders when there is only one result

2009-11-03 Thread Henrik Johansen
Working mostly in VisualWorks, I too sometimes miss those when doing stuff in Pharo. What would be even cooler imho, would be using RoelTyper to find (potential) results only for the specific method you asked for senders of :) Cheers, Henry On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:30 16AM, Torsten Bergmann w

Re: [Pharo-project] implementors and senders when there is only one result

2009-11-03 Thread Lukas Renggli
This is what the Chasing Browser in OmniBrowser does. Instead of using a tree it uses a Apple Finder like structure. I know that various people don't like the way this is presented in OmniBrowser. Personally I like it very much and use it all the time. Lukas 2009/11/3 Torsten Bergmann : > I alway