Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess - working on gnuplot

2009-11-17 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Dave, On Nov 17, 2009, at 01:40 , David T. Lewis wrote: [...] > If the above examples do not work for you, it is very likely due to > the > current inconsistencies between OSProcess and Pharo, for which I do > not yet > have a solution (I would welcome any tips here, I tried again last

[Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 RC1 feedback.

2009-11-17 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Michael van der Gulik wrote: >The new user experience needs to be worked >on, in particular by making the downloading and setting up >more intuitive, and by having a welcome message when the >image is started. Hi Michael, nice to see you here too. Pharo has (similar to Squeak) an open process t

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess - working on gnuplot

2009-11-17 Thread Igor Stasenko
2 Bill & others. I started gnuplot to make an abstract layer for its functionality. Its not really matter, how it invokes the OSProcess, so feel free to replace/improve that part of code. And of course, its not for a single OS. There are GPWrapper which should deal with platform-specific crap, wh

Re: [Pharo-project] Connectors

2009-11-17 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi Andrew, I recommand you to give a try at Mondrian. http://www.squeaksource.com/Mondrian.html Cheers, Alexandre On 17 Nov 2009, at 04:28, Andrew P. Black wrote: > I was recommending to a student that they look at Ned Konz's > Connectors package to help with a drawing project. I eventually

Re: [Pharo-project] Connectors

2009-11-17 Thread Lukas Renggli
Hi Alexandre, > I recommand you to give a try at Mondrian. > http://www.squeaksource.com/Mondrian.html I tried to use Mondrian to visualize grammars, but found it difficult to get something working that only remotely resembles

Re: [Pharo-project] Connectors

2009-11-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On Nov 17, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > Hi Alexandre, > >> I recommand you to give a try at Mondrian. >> http://www.squeaksource.com/Mondrian.html > > I tried to use Mondrian to visualize grammars, but found it difficult > to get something working that only remotely resembles >

Re: [Pharo-project] Speech Klatt package on SqueakSource (was: Package name "SharedPool-Speech", "SharedPool-FFI", etc ?)

2009-11-17 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks for cleaning VMMaker! REALLY Thanks a lot. On Nov 17, 2009, at 3:12 AM, David T. Lewis wrote: > On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:48:49AM -0500, David T. Lewis wrote: >> There is currently a package dependency for VMMaker that requires the >> entire Speech package (for KlattSy

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 RC1 feedback.

2009-11-17 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks a lot for your feedback. Stef On Nov 17, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Michael van der Gulik wrote: > Hi. > > Here's some feedback for Pharo. I've been using Squeak 3.10, but because I > want to use the NewCompiler, I'm going to move development of SecureSqueak to > Pharo. > > I go to http://phar

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess - working on gnuplot

2009-11-17 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Yes! What are the problems? I read the mail three times but I could not get it. Stef On Nov 17, 2009, at 9:30 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Hi Dave, > > On Nov 17, 2009, at 01:40 , David T. Lewis wrote: > > [...] > >> If the above examples do not work for you, it is very likely due to >> the

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 RC1 feedback.

2009-11-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On Nov 17, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Michael van der Gulik wrote: > Hi. > > Here's some feedback for Pharo. I've been using Squeak 3.10, but because I > want to use the NewCompiler, I'm going to move development of SecureSqueak to > Pharo. > > I go to http://pharo.org/. Woops. He he. I find my way to

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 RC1 feedback.

2009-11-17 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Yes if you provide information/images... for linux you will see the situation improving faster than if you wait for us. Stef On Nov 17, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Michael van der Gulik wrote: >> The new user experience needs to be worked >> on, in particular by making the downl

Re: [Pharo-project] Connectors

2009-11-17 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! > http://www.svgopen.org/2009/papers/58-Interactive_Documentation_using_JavaScript_and_SVG/ What you have in Figure 3 is fairly trivial to obtain. I can provide scripts for this. Other figure are doable, but may require effort. I can help on this. Cheers, Alexandre On 17 Nov 2009, at 09:4

[Pharo-project] Pharo Sprint this Saturday in Buenos Aires

2009-11-17 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Dear List, This is a remainder for the sprint that will take place this Saturday. Please subscribe to if you wish to register: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PharoSprints Beside your name, feel free to add suggestions. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:

Re: [Pharo-project] SystemVersion 1.0 and 1.1

2009-11-17 Thread Michael Roberts
Stef/Adrian/Marcus what more do you need to integrate this please? did I miss something? Thanks mike On Sunday, November 15, 2009, Michael Roberts wrote: > Please review these changes for 1.0 & 1.1 branches.  This currently > only bootstraps better version strings.  After this I have some class

Re: [Pharo-project] SystemVersion 1.0 and 1.1

2009-11-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On Nov 17, 2009, at 7:15 PM, Michael Roberts wrote: > Stef/Adrian/Marcus what more do you need to integrate this please? > did I miss something? > I think not... I will have a look at this soon. :-) (maybe even tonight). Marcus > Thanks > mike > > On Sunday, November 15, 2009, Mic

Re: [Pharo-project] Connectors

2009-11-17 Thread Lukas Renggli
>> http://www.svgopen.org/2009/papers/58-Interactive_Documentation_using_JavaScript_and_SVG/ > > What you have in Figure 3 is fairly trivial to obtain. I can provide > scripts for this. > Other figure are doable, but may require effort. I can help on this. I know how to do the tree, but that's not

Re: [Pharo-project] SystemVersion 1.0 and 1.1

2009-11-17 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
time :) Stef On Nov 17, 2009, at 7:15 PM, Michael Roberts wrote: > Stef/Adrian/Marcus what more do you need to integrate this please? > did I miss something? > > Thanks > mike > > On Sunday, November 15, 2009, Michael Roberts wrote: >> Please review these changes for 1.0 & 1.1 branches. Thi

Re: [Pharo-project] Socket accepts ipv6 addresses, but can not connect to them

2009-11-17 Thread Bart Gauquie
Hi, If i modify the #useOldNetwork method, everything works. Thanks for that tip. However: is this not a 'bug' in Pharo to have ipv6 as default, since it is not working properly? With my simple SocketTest not working for instance? Kind regards, Bart 2009/11/16 Schwab,Wilhelm K > FWIW, I am

Re: [Pharo-project] Socket accepts ipv6 addresses, but can not connect to them

2009-11-17 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Bart, Good question, and there is no easy answer. The Linux world seems to be having convulsions over it, and every time I re-learn how to shut it off (it does bad things to my DNS lookup times), I find comments about how poorly designed it is. I'm not saying the comments are correct, but I n

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess - working on gnuplot

2009-11-17 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef, The only problems I have found are in the unit tests, which somewhere along the line cause a vm crash. Otherwise, it seems to work. Until it either proves unstable or otherwise lets me down, I'm trying to press forward with it, since I agree that it is REALLY important that this and oth

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 RC1 feedback.

2009-11-17 Thread Michael van der Gulik
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Michael van der Gulik wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > Here's some feedback for Pharo. I've been using Squeak 3.10, but because > I want to use the NewCompiler, I'm going to move development of SecureSqueak > to Pharo.

Re: [Pharo-project] SystemVersion 1.0 and 1.1

2009-11-17 Thread Michael Roberts
no problem ;-) Mike On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > time :) > > Stef > > On Nov 17, 2009, at 7:15 PM, Michael Roberts wrote: > >> Stef/Adrian/Marcus  what more do you need to integrate this please? >> did I miss something? >> >> Thanks >> mike >> >> On Sunday, November

Re: [Pharo-project] Socket accepts ipv6 addresses, but can not connect to them

2009-11-17 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
No this is a good point. Adrian we should really useOldNetwork in the final version Stef On Nov 17, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Bart Gauquie wrote: > Hi, > > If i modify the #useOldNetwork method, everything works. Thanks for that tip. > > However: is this not a 'bug' in Pharo to have ipv6 as default,

Re: [Pharo-project] Socket accepts ipv6 addresses, but can not connect to them

2009-11-17 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
Not that I have any experience in the area, but would it be an idea to rename it to useIPv4 as well? I don't know about others, but the name of that method annoys me _every_ time I see this problem mentioned... Cheers, Henry On 17.11.2009 22:13, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > No this is a good point

Re: [Pharo-project] Connectors

2009-11-17 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 20:14 +0100, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> http://www.svgopen.org/2009/papers/58-Interactive_Documentation_using_JavaScript_and_SVG/ > > > > What you have in Figure 3 is fairly trivial to obtain. I can provide > > scripts for this. > > Other figure are doable, but may require effo

Re: [Pharo-project] Socket accepts ipv6 addresses, but can not connect to them

2009-11-17 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I don't know the details about the "old" and "new" network implementation (IPv4 vs. IPv6?), but if the old works and the new does not we should definitely change the default back to the old one. Adrian On Nov 17, 2009, at 22:13 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > No this is a good point. > Adrian we

Re: [Pharo-project] Connectors

2009-11-17 Thread Andrew P. Black
Is there any documentation? Andrew On 17 Nov 2009, at 03:46, Alexandre Bergel wrote: I recommand you to give a try at Mondrian. http://www.squeaksource.com/Mondrian.html ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr htt

[Pharo-project] PhD position funded: Contribution to the design of domain specific languages for robotic applications

2009-11-17 Thread Serge Stinckwich
LIP6, the Computer Science laboratory of the University of Paris 6, is offering a PhD studenship in software engineering for robotics. The student will take part in the PROTEUS (Platform for RObotic models Transformations and Exchange between Users and Scientific communities) project funded by ANR

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess - working on gnuplot

2009-11-17 Thread David T. Lewis
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 03:20:41PM -0500, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Stef, > > The only problems I have found are in the unit tests, which somewhere along > the line cause a vm crash. Otherwise, it seems to work. Until it either > proves unstable or otherwise lets me down, I'm trying to press f

Re: [Pharo-project] Speech Klatt package on SqueakSource (was: Package name "SharedPool-Speech", "SharedPool-FFI", etc ?)

2009-11-17 Thread David T. Lewis
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 01:58:19PM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks for cleaning VMMaker! > REALLY > Thanks a lot. Absolutely! I think I have a MC configuration that provides a "one click" download or update for a Squeak trunk image. I'm not sure what loader to use for

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess - working on gnuplot

2009-11-17 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Dave, It is nice to see a programmer accept blame for something. Too many hide behind the euphemism du jour ("issue") as if they had nothing to do with it. A long time ago, I read an article that objected to the term "bug," suggesting that it was too easy to pass of as something relatively ha

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess - working on gnuplot

2009-11-17 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
The image readers heap a lot of abuse on the streams given to them (reset vs. restoring position, sending #binary, #close, etc.). With PNG, I was able to create a modified reader that uses the IEND chunk to stop the read rather than the end of stream, which is hideous for some uses (such as m