Re: [Pharo-project] System -> About in Dev images

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
2010/1/11 Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez > El dom, 10-01-2010 a las 23:34 +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck escribió: > > > > > > > > yes I think it is too complicated a version scheme. The dev > > tag is > > also synonymous with Pharo. > > > > so if your Pharo image is c

Re: [Pharo-project] problem installing Nile

2010-01-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
let us do one when you come to see us this week. Stef On Jan 10, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > It would be cool to have ConfigurationOfNile so that not depend in this > Nile-All and requiered packages from MC. > > some volunteer ? > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Stép

Re: [Pharo-project] Alien plugin? Status of VMMaker

2010-01-10 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, John M McIntosh wrote: > My understanding is VMMaker should work with Pharo > Look in the archives for Gofer and VMMaker > > Once you've built a VMMaker image you need to load the Alien plugin logic. > This might be loaded by previous gofer scripts, otherwise: > > "add Alien S

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo for Professional Development

2010-01-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Now for pharo people could ressurect the GTK port done by gwenael. Or pay for that. Stef On Jan 11, 2010, at 2:40 AM, Stephen Taylor wrote: > Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: >> Dolphin is better than that > > I've put my money where my mouth is with Dolphin - I think I've bought > every product they'v

Re: [Pharo-project] Alien plugin? Status of VMMaker

2010-01-10 Thread John M McIntosh
My understanding is VMMaker should work with Pharo Look in the archives for Gofer and VMMaker Once you've built a VMMaker image you need to load the Alien plugin logic. This might be loaded by previous gofer scripts, otherwise: "add Alien Support Packages" gofer squeaksource: 'Alien'; ad

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo for Professional Development

2010-01-10 Thread Benoit St-Jean
Well, the IdeaSpace rocks! :) See, you're not alone! - Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. (Albert Einstein) From: Stephen Taylor To: Pharo-project@list

Re: [Pharo-project] Alien plugin? Status of VMMaker

2010-01-10 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Do any of you know of an alien plugin for linux? Is VMMaker alive and well > on Pharo? > > I am getting close to (perhaps) being able to move some number crunching onto > Pharo, but it will depend on external libraries and callbacks. My reading >

[Pharo-project] Alien plugin? Status of VMMaker

2010-01-10 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Do any of you know of an alien plugin for linux? Is VMMaker alive and well on Pharo? I am getting close to (perhaps) being able to move some number crunching onto Pharo, but it will depend on external libraries and callbacks. My reading suggests that the existing FFI is unable to handle cal

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo for Professional Development

2010-01-10 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
In short, the same story as me, but I have a better excuse :) It would be unwise for me to move to 6 only to promptly dump Windows. There are sabres rattling in the distance, and I'm not sure what will happen first. There are scenarios under which I might move to D6, but most of that could be

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo for Professional Development

2010-01-10 Thread Stephen Taylor
Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Steve, > > I'm confused: how is a D4 guy an idea space fan??? The key word is laziness - not the good sort of laziness that programmers are supposed to have, along with hubris, etc, but the bad sort you're supposed to shake yourself out of. I've bought the various n

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo for Professional Development

2010-01-10 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Steve, I'm confused: how is a D4 guy an idea space fan??? Speaking of old images, I have 5.1 in gainful use. Moving to 6 was problematic, so aside from buying it (for the reason you mention), I never made the switch. I _think_ the problems I had have since been identified and understood, but

Re: [Pharo-project] System -> About in Dev images

2010-01-10 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez
El dom, 10-01-2010 a las 23:34 +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck escribió: > > > > yes I think it is too complicated a version scheme. The dev > tag is > also synonymous with Pharo. > > so if your Pharo image is currently > Pharo1.0-105

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo for Professional Development

2010-01-10 Thread Stephen Taylor
Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Dolphin is better than that I've put my money where my mouth is with Dolphin - I think I've bought every product they've ever released, just to give them a hand - despite the fact that I've still got a Dolphin version4 image on the go! > The feature you are describing

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo-beginner mailing list ?

2010-01-10 Thread Stephen Taylor
Adrian Kuhn wrote: > For example, one thing we could do is pushing Stackoverflow. They have a > large > userbase and excellent google ranks. When you ask a question on SO, it > appears > *immediately* on google! StackOverflow is good. I recently asked a Pharo question there about missing b

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo for Professional Development

2010-01-10 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Dolphin is better than that, and yes, it is a shame that it is tied to Windows. In fairness, I would have made the same initial decision as they did, but I would have started investigating wx or some other toolkit as early as XP's release, and would have gotten serious about it shortly thereaft

Re: [Pharo-project] CUIS new Text Editor Classes

2010-01-10 Thread Fernando olivero
I took a look at Safara, i loved the Object-Oriented approach to editors. But i've loaded the lastest version and had some bugs, seemed to me un-finished. Also i recall Lukas speaking of some performance issues. Is the creator of Safara working on it currently? Till Safara is usable and perfo

Re: [Pharo-project] Categorizing method extension with pragma

2010-01-10 Thread Eliot Miranda
2010/1/10 Cédrick Béler > Hi, > > Just a 2 cents thought on method extension. > > Why not associating a pragma instead of using the package name prefixed by > a star ? > > Say there is a package named MyPackage and I override a method in String or > add a new one. What I'd like is keeping the ori

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo for Professional Development

2010-01-10 Thread Stephen Taylor
Michael Rueger wrote: > Henrik Johansen wrote: > >> This is just another reason why multiple native windows would be nice, >> though, leaves the problem for someone else :) > > Interestingly enough a lot of the (complex) multiple native window > applications have (gone back to) all in one windo

Re: [Pharo-project] CUIS new Text Editor Classes

2010-01-10 Thread Cédrick Béler
Is it possible to integrate the work done in Safara ? Just asking ;) Cédrick ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Lukas Renggli
Yeah, it should not have an effect on production. It is just the test that checked directly for the color to see if a button is highlighted and thus selected. The code is not used when running OB. I changed it to use some other magic morphic test that works with all themes. Lukas 2010/1/10 Tudor

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Thanks Doru for the feedback!!! Now I hope to create a new one during the week with all the feedback I received and using Lukas OB. Thanks Lukas for the fix!!! This is cool :) On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> I guess we have to ignore it for now. > >> > > > > Yes,

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Lukas Renggli
>> I guess we have to ignore it for now. >> > > Yes, no problem at all. We are much better :) Ok, I found the reason and fixed it. It only appeared when one of the Polymorph themes was activated. I was building with the default theme and then switched to the standard theme before I saved. That's w

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I can now report that I worked 8 hours using the new dev image and I encountered no problems at all. Cheers, Doru On 10 Jan 2010, at 21:11, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Stan Shepherd > wrote: > > > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > Hi Folks/Beta

Re: [Pharo-project] System -> About in Dev images

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
> > yes I think it is too complicated a version scheme. The dev tag is > also synonymous with Pharo. > > so if your Pharo image is currently Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1 > I would call it Pharo-1.0-10505-rc1. This is the same scheme that the > The is Pharo-1.0-10505-rc1 or it should be Pharo-1.0-

Re: [Pharo-project] Categorizing method extension with pragma

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
2010/1/10 Cédrick Béler > Hi, > > Just a 2 cents thought on method extension. > > Why not associating a pragma instead of using the package name prefixed by > a star ? > > Say there is a package named MyPackage and I override a method in String or > add a new one. What I'd like is keeping the ori

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> Can you debug them? > > > > Sure. testPushAlphaBeta fails in self assertSelectionIs: 1. because in > > assertSelectionIs: anInteger > > > > you can see that anInteger and index are both 1, but the button answer > false > > to the messa

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Lukas Renggli
>> Can you debug them? > > Sure. testPushAlphaBeta  fails in self assertSelectionIs: 1.  because in > assertSelectionIs: anInteger > > you can see that anInteger and index are both 1, but the button answer false > to the message isOn > > testUpdateSelection fails in self assertSelectionIs: 2  becau

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Hudson continuous integration server support

2010-01-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Lukas is impressive. You would see it coding new parser in helvetia :) or helping to port Moose VisualWorks into pharo. It was cool. Stef On Jan 10, 2010, at 7:48 PM, Yanni Chiu wrote: > Lukas Renggli wrote: >> Thank you for adding me to the repository. I will commit my changes to >> the HudsonBu

Re: [Pharo-project] Object Buffer (implementation tryout)

2010-01-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I like the idea. I like the idea of a class because you could attach behavior to it: - cleaning for release - exporting - importing ... So instead of using a global I would use instead of Buffer why not ObjectClipBoard ? Stef > The problem is that without

Re: [Pharo-project] problem installing Nile

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
It would be cool to have ConfigurationOfNile so that not depend in this Nile-All and requiered packages from MC. some volunteer ? On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote: > this is really strange. > > On Jan 10, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Mariano Martinez Pec

Re: [Pharo-project] CUIS new Text Editor Classes

2010-01-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
doru ScriptLoader new ddExtraRepositories -> open squeak trunk and you can see their changes and integration of CUIS. This is since the sprint at lille that we should have a look. Stef On Jan 10, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > It would be really great to have that in Pharo. I would a

Re: [Pharo-project] CUIS new Text Editor Classes

2010-01-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Excellent fernando! Did you start from squeak or cuis I was planning to start from Squeak since they ported back CUIS code in the context of WideStrings (CUIS is pre unicode support) Stef > Juan re-factored the smalltalk behavior in the editors, creating the > following hierarchy > >

Re: [Pharo-project] problem installing Nile

2010-01-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
this is really strange. On Jan 10, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > I really don't know where the problem is here. If I take an image, both, > installing just Nile from Metacello or from Monticello Browser, it loads ok. > > When I run my full ConfigurationOfPharo from a command

Re: [Pharo-project] how to import an icon

2010-01-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
look into the MenuIcons class code there is a facility to import and save menuicons. Stef > Hi, > > I would like to import icons from external files in the image. These > should be used for menus and buttons. > > How should I do that? What format should be used? What size? > > Cheers, > Dor

Re: [Pharo-project] Categorizing method extension with pragma

2010-01-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Jan 10, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Cédrick Béler wrote: > > 2010/1/10 Stéphane Ducasse > yes now we should pay attention about metadata in the methods. > > yes this is an extra thing to do but it might be necessary. Also it can be > sort of "transparent". > > Imagine I download an image and start

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Dale: after some discussions in Pharo mailing list, the community wants to use the Lukas repository for OB instead of wiresong. I don't know the impact it makes to you, and I don't know the best way to manage this kind of situations. Right now, I create a new version and baselind to Configuration

Re: [Pharo-project] #11147 update breaks 1.1 dev image

2010-01-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Martin may be you work with the published version before 1.1-11147. Because this one should be stable at least I used it without any problem. Removing preferences was like an earthquake :) If we cannot edit text we will be in trouble :) should be fixed soon. Stef > 11147 > - >

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> After that I have only two tests failing :) > >> > >> - testPushAlpaBeta > >> - testUpdatesSelection > >> > >> The same it is here: > http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Development/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/ > > > > I fixed the other

Re: [Pharo-project] #11147 update breaks 1.1 dev image

2010-01-10 Thread Martin McClure
Alain Plantec wrote: > Alain Plantec a écrit : >> Martin McClure a écrit : >>> Marcus Denker wrote: >>> 11147 - Issue 1761:Unloadable-reloadable Services-Base + DeprecatedPreferences packages (part 1 - 3) ... some packages are dirty. This will be fixed

Re: [Pharo-project] Allow or disable System Update in PharoDev images ?

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > I agree, it would be nice to have software update for the Pharo > images. But as long as it does not reliably work, I think it harms > more than it helps. > > +1. But...they main question is, do you know in which cases it breaks stuff? ON

Re: [Pharo-project] #11147 update breaks 1.1 dev image

2010-01-10 Thread Alain Plantec
Alain Plantec a écrit : > Martin McClure a écrit : >> Marcus Denker wrote: >> >>> 11147 >>> - >>> >>> Issue 1761:Unloadable-reloadable Services-Base + >>> DeprecatedPreferences packages (part 1 - 3) >>> >>> ... some packages are dirty. This will be fixed next, together with >>> part 4 a

Re: [Pharo-project] Allow or disable System Update in PharoDev images ?

2010-01-10 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I agree, it would be nice to have software update for the Pharo images. But as long as it does not reliably work, I think it harms more than it helps. Adrian BTW, I believe one should regularly start with a fresh image, so starting from a new download should not be a big issue anyway On Ja

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Smalltalk ♥

2010-01-10 Thread Michael van der Gulik
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Guido Stepken wrote: > Pharo Smalltalk ♥ >    ifTrue: [developer honk] > > > That should be valid code :) It is. You'll just need to implement those methods. http://securesqueak.blogspot.com/2008/11/unicode-in-squeak.html Gulik. -- http://gulik.pbwiki.com/ _

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Lukas Renggli
>> After that I have only two tests failing :) >> >> - testPushAlpaBeta >> - testUpdatesSelection >> >> The same it is here: >> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Development/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/ > > I fixed the other two bugs, they were caused by a bug in the hudson > test runner. Don't

Re: [Pharo-project] System -> About in Dev images

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:10 PM, wrote: > Em 10/01/2010 17:46, Mariano Martinez Peck > escreveu: > > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:37 PM, wrote: > > Em 10/01/2010 13:04, Mariano Martinez Peck > > escreveu: > > > > > > > PharoCore1.0rc1 Latest update: #10505 > > > > OK. > > > > > > > And

Re: [Pharo-project] #11147 update breaks 1.1 dev image

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Martin McClure wrote: > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > My question is, do you really need a dev 1.1 image? It was removed from > > the website as most of the tools are not working yet in 1.1. > > > > Why you cannot use 1.0 dev ? > > I'm working on the hashed col

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stan, I found Seaside 2.8 to install in a reasonable time. Did you time 3.0? I'm surprised it worked, and it is certainly not going to go over well if my experience is any indication of how long it should take. Bill -Original Message- From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Stan Shepherd wrote: > > > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > Hi Folks/Beta-Testers! > > > > I have prepare a new PharoDev image. This image, has same differences > with > > the previous ones that you should know: > > > > 1) This is the first Dev image I ever pre

Re: [Pharo-project] System -> About in Dev images

2010-01-10 Thread csrabak
Em 10/01/2010 17:46, Mariano Martinez Peck escreveu: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:37 PM, wrote: > Em 10/01/2010 13:04, Mariano Martinez Peck > escreveu: > > > > PharoCore1.0rc1 Latest update: #10505 > > OK. > > > > And if I am in Pharo I would see > > Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1 > I

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Stan Shepherd
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Hi Folks/Beta-Testers! > > I have prepare a new PharoDev image. This image, has same differences with > the previous ones that you should know: > > 1) This is the first Dev image I ever prepare. I adapt to Mac OS Damien's > bash scripts to build them and I also

Re: [Pharo-project] #11147 update breaks 1.1 dev image

2010-01-10 Thread Martin McClure
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > My question is, do you really need a dev 1.1 image? It was removed from > the website as most of the tools are not working yet in 1.1. > > Why you cannot use 1.0 dev ? I'm working on the hashed collection speedup, which I believe is only to be integrated into 1.1.

Re: [Pharo-project] #11147 update breaks 1.1 dev image

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: > Martin McClure a écrit : > > Marcus Denker wrote: > > > >> 11147 > >> - > >> > >> Issue 1761: Unloadable-reloadable Services-Base + DeprecatedPreferences > packages (part 1 - 3) > >> > >> ... some packages are dirty. This will be fixed n

Re: [Pharo-project] Finalization quirk

2010-01-10 Thread John M McIntosh
Yes, usually the finalization logic is a separate high priority process. I think in VisualAge you can also manually call a primitive to get more finalized objects as a way of hurrying finalization along. I have seen a case at a client where their "higher* priority task stalled finalization, b

Re: [Pharo-project] #11147 update breaks 1.1 dev image

2010-01-10 Thread Alain Plantec
Martin McClure a écrit : > Marcus Denker wrote: > >> 11147 >> - >> >> Issue 1761: Unloadable-reloadable Services-Base + DeprecatedPreferences >> packages (part 1 - 3) >> >> ... some packages are dirty. This will be fixed next, together with part 4 >> and a cleanup of packages that >> are

Re: [Pharo-project] System -> About in Dev images

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:37 PM, wrote: > Em 10/01/2010 13:04, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianop...@gmail.com > > escreveu: > > > On Sun, Jan 10,2010 at 3:38 PM, Michael Roberts > > wrote: > > > > 2010/1/10 Mariano Martinez Peck : > > > [snipped] > > > > > >> and you can

Re: [Pharo-project] #11147 update breaks 1.1 dev image

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Martin McClure wrote: > Marcus Denker wrote: > > 11147 > > - > > > > Issue 1761: Unloadable-reloadable Services-Base + DeprecatedPreferences > packages (part 1 - 3) > > > > ... some packages are dirty. This will be fixed next, together with part > 4 and a cle

Re: [Pharo-project] Allow or disable System Update in PharoDev images ?

2010-01-10 Thread csrabak
Can't it be left as user setting that can be selected ('decided') after downloading the image? -- Cesar Rabak Em 10/01/2010 13:45, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianop...@gmail.com > escreveu: It is a simple question. Do we allow that or not.  Miguel wrote the pros and cons: Pros - Can fix bu

Re: [Pharo-project] System -> About in Dev images

2010-01-10 Thread csrabak
Em 10/01/2010 13:04, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianop...@gmail.com > escreveu: > On Sun, Jan 10,2010 at 3:38 PM, Michael Roberts > wrote: > > 2010/1/10 Mariano Martinez Peck : > [snipped] > > > >> and you can change the suffix as well, but personally i would > >> not u

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > It looks like Metacello-Platform and Ocompletion are dirty. Any reason > for why the changes are not in the Monticello repository? > Thanks Doru for the report. For Metacello-Platform, it is correct it is dirty. I am having some probl

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > Lukas: I had most of the tests in red until I install the package OB-Fake > > Do you know which packages from OB require OB-Fake? > > OB-Fake is a fake view. It is used by all tests that do not test > another view (morphic or web). > > Coo

[Pharo-project] #11147 update breaks 1.1 dev image

2010-01-10 Thread Martin McClure
Marcus Denker wrote: > 11147 > - > > Issue 1761: Unloadable-reloadable Services-Base + DeprecatedPreferences > packages (part 1 - 3) > > ... some packages are dirty. This will be fixed next, together with part 4 > and a cleanup of packages that > are defined wrongly. When trying to updat

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Hudson continuous integration server support

2010-01-10 Thread Yanni Chiu
Lukas Renggli wrote: > Thank you for adding me to the repository. I will commit my changes to > the HudsonBuildTools there, if this is ok with you? > > I've made some significant changes: > > - added methods to run all tests of a package > - make the distinction between error and failure > - meas

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Smalltalk ♥

2010-01-10 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Guido" == Guido Stepken writes: Guido> Pharo Smalltalk ♥ Guido> ifTrue: [developer honk] I'm not sure developer should understand how to honk. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix co

Re: [Pharo-project] Allow or disable System Update in PharoDev images ?

2010-01-10 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez
El dom, 10-01-2010 a las 17:32 +0100, Adrian Lienhard escribió: > I would also rather disable it. We had numerous reports where this > failed. I think "the right way" to do it is to have a build server > that creates new Pharo images from the PharoCore version (i.e., > "nightly builds"). Unti

[Pharo-project] Pharo Smalltalk ♥

2010-01-10 Thread Guido Stepken
Pharo Smalltalk ♥ ifTrue: [developer honk] That should be valid code :) Have fun! regards, Guido Stepken ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] Object Buffer (implementation tryout)

2010-01-10 Thread Cédrick Béler
> > The problem is that without explaining someone what the menu item > "Buffer it" does and how to use it (e.g., to evaluate "self buffer") > it makes this feature hard to understand. > yes I agree > > I think the idea is good, but how could it be made easy to understand > and use? > don't rea

Re: [Pharo-project] CUIS new Text Editor Classes

2010-01-10 Thread Fernando olivero
Thanks ! Initially i wont be integrating this changes in OB but is good to know this extra info. Fernando On Jan 10, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Danie Roux wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Fernando olivero wrote: >> Would be nice to adopt this refactoring into Pharo, i've started to port it >>

Re: [Pharo-project] CUIS new Text Editor Classes

2010-01-10 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Fernando, > File out the classes and edit and replace the underscores > assignments with :=, and they load just ok. > But Juan also modified other classes and methods referenced/used > while adopting the new editors objects. > > You can adopt it right away for Glamour, but remember that Mor

Re: [Pharo-project] CUIS new Text Editor Classes

2010-01-10 Thread Fernando olivero
File out the classes and edit and replace the underscores assignments with :=, and they load just ok. But Juan also modified other classes and methods referenced/used while adopting the new editors objects. You can adopt it right away for Glamour, but remember that Morphic in Cuis has a clean

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, It looks like Metacello-Platform and Ocompletion are dirty. Any reason for why the changes are not in the Monticello repository? Cheers, Doru On 9 Jan 2010, at 18:13, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi Folks/Beta-Testers! > > I have prepare a new PharoDev image. This image, has same > di

Re: [Pharo-project] CUIS new Text Editor Classes

2010-01-10 Thread Tudor Girba
It would be really great to have that in Pharo. I would adopt it in Glamour in a heartbeat :) Is there an easy way to load this code in Pharo? Especially given that it looks like it can live side-by-side with the current editor. Cheers, Doru On 10 Jan 2010, at 16:45, Fernando olivero wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] Allow or disable System Update in PharoDev images ?

2010-01-10 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I would also rather disable it. We had numerous reports where this failed. I think "the right way" to do it is to have a build server that creates new Pharo images from the PharoCore version (i.e., "nightly builds"). Until we have this automated, one can always grab an up to date PharoCore

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Lukas Renggli
> Lukas: I had most of the tests in red until I install the package OB-Fake > Do you know which packages from OB require OB-Fake? OB-Fake is a fake view. It is used by all tests that do not test another view (morphic or web). > After that I have only two tests failing :) > > - testPushAlpaBeta >

Re: [Pharo-project] Allow or disable System Update in PharoDev images ?

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Michael Roberts wrote: > without its own update stream, or section in the update file, I think > the effect of allowing the Pharo image to update itself based on the > core update file would lead to an undefined result? > > Yes. Mostly due to overrides. > If tha

Re: [Pharo-project] Allow or disable System Update in PharoDev images ?

2010-01-10 Thread Michael Roberts
without its own update stream, or section in the update file, I think the effect of allowing the Pharo image to update itself based on the core update file would lead to an undefined result? If that is the case I would disable it. I assume this would be replaced by some Metacello 'update stream'

Re: [Pharo-project] CUIS new Text Editor Classes

2010-01-10 Thread Danie Roux
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Fernando olivero wrote: > Would be nice to adopt this refactoring into Pharo, i've started to port it > and cleaning up the textmorph in the process. But it's still a work in > progress. Just a heads up: This will require some work in OB down the line. OBTextMo

[Pharo-project] Allow or disable System Update in PharoDev images ?

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
It is a simple question. Do we allow that or not. Miguel wrote the pros and cons: Pros - Can fix bugs after release - Can aply improvements to the image after release. Cons - Can mess the image of someone by overwriting some overridden method. - Can accidentally update more than intended in some

[Pharo-project] CUIS new Text Editor Classes

2010-01-10 Thread Fernando olivero
Juan re-factored the smalltalk behavior in the editors, creating the following hierarchy Editor TextEditor SimpleEditor SmalltalkEditor See the comment in Editor class in Cuis image

Re: [Pharo-project] System -> About in Dev images

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Michael Roberts wrote: > I had imagined the update number of Pharo and PharoCore would be the > same? do you need to know any more about the core image? > > I really don't know. But for example, but happens with after DevImage someone do a System Update and updat

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > Adrian: Most of the failing tests are from OB. Someone said Lukas made > all > > those tests green, but they are commited in his repo. Someone should > merge > > that with the wiresong repo. If no one merge that, I don't know what to > do:

Re: [Pharo-project] System -> About in Dev images

2010-01-10 Thread Michael Roberts
I had imagined the update number of Pharo and PharoCore would be the same? do you need to know any more about the core image? ...we could embed the core's SystemVersion in the Pharo image. version iVar will be deprecated when I get around to it. did you mean putting behaviour on the instance sid

Re: [Pharo-project] problem installing Nile

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
I really don't know where the problem is here. If I take an image, both, installing just Nile from Metacello or from Monticello Browser, it loads ok. When I run my full ConfigurationOfPharo from a command line sending the scripts, I always have this errors. But Dale, you said you have the same pr

Re: [Pharo-project] System -> About in Dev images

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Michael Roberts wrote: > 2010/1/10 Mariano Martinez Peck : > > > > > Ok...the problem is that I have just checked and this changes are only in > > 1.1 isn't it ? > > > > :(So...what we do ? we keep like this until 1.1 ? > > oh sorry yes they are only in 1.1.

Re: [Pharo-project] System -> About in Dev images

2010-01-10 Thread Michael Roberts
2010/1/10 Mariano Martinez Peck : > > Ok...the problem is that I have just checked and this changes are only in > 1.1 isn't it ? > > :(    So...what we do ? we keep like this until 1.1 ? oh sorry yes they are only in 1.1. You just need to change version: string using some string manipulation. I

Re: [Pharo-project] Object Buffer (implementation tryout)

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Cédrick: Maybe it is has nothing to do, but a friend of mine once did a little Portia implementation. I think they have a similar Idea. Maybe I am wrong. Anyway, here is a paper about that: http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=118014.117959 Cheers Mariano On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Adr

Re: [Pharo-project] Object Buffer (implementation tryout)

2010-01-10 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Cédrick, Indeed, this is something that one needs from time to time. However, I wonder, from a usability point of view, if this is the right way to do it. The problem is that without explaining someone what the menu item "Buffer it" does and how to use it (e.g., to evaluate "self buffer")

Re: [Pharo-project] System -> About in Dev images

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Michael Roberts wrote: > Hi you need to set > > SystemVersion current type: 'Pharo' > > to change the core image it is built from to be Pharo. or if we > abandon the distinction > > SystemVersion current type: 'PharoDev' > > Ok...the problem is that I have just ch

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > On Jan 10, 2010, at 14:35 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Adrian Lienhard > > wrote: > > > >> Lukas is the official maintainer of the OB package for Pharo. > >> Therefore I assume OB should be loade

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> Lukas is the official maintainer of the OB package for Pharo. > >> Therefore I assume OB should be loaded from his repository... Lukas? > > > > Wait...this is not a little decision. This is really big. Because a lot > of > > people commit

Re: [Pharo-project] System -> About in Dev images

2010-01-10 Thread Michael Roberts
Hi you need to set SystemVersion current type: 'Pharo' to change the core image it is built from to be Pharo. or if we abandon the distinction SystemVersion current type: 'PharoDev' and you can change the suffix as well, but personally i would not use the date in the image name. cheers, Mike

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Jan 10, 2010, at 14:35 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Adrian Lienhard > wrote: > >> Lukas is the official maintainer of the OB package for Pharo. >> Therefore I assume OB should be loaded from his repository... Lukas? >> >> > Wait...this is not a little de

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Very true!! -Original Message- From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Lukas Renggli Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:49 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN]

Re: [Pharo-project] Morphic (for gary :) and others)

2010-01-10 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, > Gary and others > > I really think that we should do an audit of Morphic. In 1.1 we are > going already faster but I'm sure that there is plenty > of space for improvements. > > I see several actions > - checking squeak toolbuilder enhancements and using it for the tools >

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
>> > > Yes true. However, maybe other people rather to put a real username and > password. I think this is more flexible. > It would be cool to hear opinions. Automated, I need it for continuous integration building ___ Pharo-project mailing list P

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 2010-01-09 20:21:19 -0300, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez said: > El dom, 10-01-2010 a las 00:08 +0100, Matthias Berth escribió: >> Hi Bill, >> >> this one works for me with the current pharo core 1.0 rc1, update upto 10505 >> >> "execute this:" >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'Loader'; >> pack

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Moose loads well and the tests work as expected. > Cool. Thanks for reporting Doru. > > I will try to work with this image for a while, although it kills me > not to see the packages :). > > Yes, I know. I miss packages too. Alexand

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Ok, I installed it and made a some-kind "web" image (Loading Seaside28 and Pier). The seaside and pier metacello configurations needs to specify the version because there is no stable version declared. The configuration line to install seaside is: (ConfigurationOfSeaside28 project version: '2.

[Pharo-project] how to import an icon

2010-01-10 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I would like to import icons from external files in the image. These should be used for menus and buttons. How should I do that? What format should be used? What size? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow." ___

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Moose loads well and the tests work as expected. I will try to work with this image for a while, although it kills me not to see the packages :). Cheers, Doru On 9 Jan 2010, at 18:13, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi Folks/Beta-Testers! > > I have prepare a new PharoDev image. This ima

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1

2010-01-10 Thread Lukas Renggli
>> Lukas is the official maintainer of the OB package for Pharo. >> Therefore I assume OB should be loaded from his repository... Lukas? > > Wait...this is not a little decision. This is really big. Because a lot of > people commits stuff to wiresong repository. How this will be merged ? where > pe

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