thanks hilaire
I will open a ticket.
Stef
On Apr 29, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
> So far,
>
> In the archive the change set of classes (may be there are more) extracted
> from Etoys for Gettext support.
>
> They should install fine in Pharo 1.1, however there are incompatibil
On 4/29/2010 3:21 AM, Alain Plantec wrote:
Andreas Raab a écrit :
On 4/28/2010 11:32 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Good but what is your point?
Compatibility and simplicity.
Come on Andreas, "simple" is not so much more precise than "cool"
That comment deserves a more detailed exploration th
On 30 April 2010 02:16, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Interesting. Scary but interesting. At the risk of seeming obsessed with
> numerical analysis, is there a way to use this for callbacks?
>
Not yet. But i plan to add the callbacks support.
> Bill
>
>
> __
On 30 April 2010 01:54, Henrik Sperre Johansen
wrote:
> On 29.04.2010 17:13, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>
>> Core packages were broken, and were unable to load w/o errors.
>> But now seems everything loads well.
>> Use NBInstaller install.
>>
>> Thanks to Henrik for help!
>
> Here's a small example, a
2010/4/29 Eliot Miranda :
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Nicolas Cellier
> wrote:
>>
>> 2010/4/29 Eliot Miranda :
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Nicolas Cellier
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don't think any other st dialect would accept that syntax but Squeak.
>> >
>> > Visu
Interesting. Scary but interesting. At the risk of seeming obsessed with
numerical analysis, is there a way to use this for callbacks?
Bill
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On 29.04.2010 17:13, Igor Stasenko wrote:
Core packages were broken, and were unable to load w/o errors.
But now seems everything loads well.
Use NBInstaller install.
Thanks to Henrik for help!
Here's a small example, as well as profile:
SmallInteger >> nbFib
^ NBNativeCodeGen methodAsse
On 29 April 2010 21:06, Damien Cassou wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> is it possible to ping a host from pharo ? It seems that OSProcess
> would do, but it is for a windows machine and I haven't found a
> pre-compiled library.
>
hmm.. i don't sure if squeak VM socket plugin supports raw sockets
which you
Mariano,
Sorry for the delay in getting.wait, I've already told you:)
You can safely unload and reload a configuration.
Dale
- "Mariano Martinez Peck" wrote:
| Thanks for the investigation Dale...now...suppose I want to fix it and
| I
| want to force to load gofer again. How can I do
I have move in a Gettext package in PharoInbox classes for gettext
support. Do not expect it to work. Some of the classes there, are just
moved from former categories in pharo System-Localization and
Multilingual other are coming from Etoys.
I have not yet test to load it in a fresh image.
Hi
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Nicolas Cellier <
nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/4/29 Eliot Miranda :
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Nicolas Cellier
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't think any other st dialect would accept that syntax but Squeak.
> >
> > VisualWorks
Eliot cleaning some left over or glitches is always good.
I think that this is what nicolas wanted to say.
like ###f -> #f we could use that for another syntactic extension.
#12 -> 12 is not really nice.
or #foo::bar:
Stef
> VisualWorks accepts it just fine.
>
> # "hello" foo => #foo
>
> # "he
2010/4/29 Eliot Miranda :
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Nicolas Cellier
> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think any other st dialect would accept that syntax but Squeak.
>
> VisualWorks accepts it just fine.
> # "hello" foo => #foo
> # "hello" (foo # "hello" foo) => #(#foo #foo)
> I think this is t
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Nicolas Cellier <
nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think any other st dialect would accept that syntax but Squeak.
>
VisualWorks accepts it just fine.
# "hello" foo => #foo
# "hello" (foo # "hello" foo) => #(#foo #foo)
I think this is the w
I would really like to get rid of that.
It makes everything looking so brittle.
Stef
On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
> I don't think any other st dialect would accept that syntax but Squeak.
> It's just how the parser/scanner works now, but It wouldn't break much
> code IMO i
I don't think any other st dialect would accept that syntax but Squeak.
It's just how the parser/scanner works now, but It wouldn't break much
code IMO if we stop supporting these weirdnesses.
Nicolas
2010/4/29 Lukas Renggli :
> Actually I didn't have all the latest code loaded in the open image.
arghhh
may be one day we should clean that too.
> testSymbolLiteral
> | tree |
> #(('# foo' #foo) ('#"bar"foo' #foo) ('##foo' #foo) ('###foo' #foo)
> ('#foo:' #foo:) ('#foo::' #'foo::') ('#foo::bar' #'foo::bar')
> ('#foo::bar:' #'foo::bar:') ('#foo::bar::' #'foo::ba
>
>
> is so much more "complicated" than
>
> ---
> Editor class>>blinkingCursor
> category: 'Morphic'
> description: 'When true, the text cursor will blink.'
> type: #Boolean>
> ^ BlinkingCursor ifNil: [ true ]
> ---
>
> Well the former is executable and
Actually I didn't have all the latest code loaded in the open image.
There is more, hold your breath:
testSymbolNumbers
#(('#1' 1) ('#12' 12) ('#12.3' 12.3) ('# 1' 1) ('##1' 1) ('#"bar"1'
1)) do: [ :pair |
tree := RBParser parseExpression: pair first.
self a
> # "helllooo" foo
>
> prints
> #foo
>
> is this correct?
Probably not, but the standard compiler accepts it. So I had to patch
the parser of the refactoring engine to accept a whole series of
degraded constructs. Below a small collection of tests documenting
some of these strange things:
testSym
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Andreas Raab wrote:
> On 4/29/2010 6:22 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>
>> and then I call it like this for example:
>>
>> oop := self firstAccessibleObject.
>> [oop = nil] whileFalse: [
>> (self isIntegerObject: oop)
>> ifFalse: [
>>
Ok, I will check.
Alexandre
On 29 Apr 2010, at 14:08, Dale Henrichs wrote:
Mariano and Alexandre,
Sorry for the late reply ... I've been off-line with a cold for the
last several days ...
I have seen the behavior that you describe while working with GLASS
1.0-beta.8 and have fixed the
Mariano and Alexandre,
Sorry for the late reply ... I've been off-line with a cold for the last
several days ...
I have seen the behavior that you describe while working with GLASS 1.0-beta.8
and have fixed the problem in Metacello 1.0-beta.26.1 ... 1.0-beta.26.1 is
still in development, but i
Dear list,
is it possible to ping a host from pharo ? It seems that OSProcess
would do, but it is for a windows machine and I haven't found a
pre-compiled library.
Thank you
--
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http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes the
Thanks!
I'll make sure to look at it when I get home.
Cheers,
Henry
Den 29. apr. 2010 kl. 19.26 skrev Alain Plantec :
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2370
Alain Plantec a écrit :
Alain Plantec a écrit :
Henrik Johansen a écrit :
It needs a way to register new valid preferenc
+1.
This is close to what I intended to write after "on the positive", but
forgot :) (probably better than I would have, though)
Cheers,
Henry
Den 29. apr. 2010 kl. 19.40 skrev Eliot Miranda
:
and I don't think that having:
--
Editor class>>blinkingCursor
^ BlinkingCurso
Torsten,
Sorry for the late reply ... caught a nasty cold and used the opportunity to
stop reading email for a couple of days ...
It looks like the original problem was that ArchiveViewer was included in the
group names but was no longer defined in 1.1-baseline. When using a
configuration dire
I have to say that devolving any technical discussion into "you think
this..." and "we think that..." is a very quick way to destroy any ability
to think critically in a technical discussion. This isn't Andreas "liking"
anything, this is the result of having thought critically and objectively
abou
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Henrik Johansen <
henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 2010, at 1:44 29PM, Alain Plantec wrote:
>
> > Henrik Johansen a écrit :
> >> On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:30 06AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> >>
> >> It's not a question of one vs. the other, really.
> >
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2370
Alain Plantec a écrit :
Alain Plantec a écrit :
Henrik Johansen a écrit :
It needs a way to register new valid preference pragmas, and setting
generators for such pragmas.
May I suggest... using pragmas? ;P
:)
I've checked and only two
Alain Plantec a écrit :
Henrik Johansen a écrit :
It needs a way to register new valid preference pragmas, and setting
generators for such pragmas.
May I suggest... using pragmas? ;P
:)
I've checked and only two methods has to be adapted and one added in
Pharo.
Then a compatibility packag
Yes, thanks.
Davide
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Davide Varvello
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>> Is there a way on Pharo to search for readers and writers of instance
>> variables?
>>
>
> Yes. Select a class, right button -> "refactoring scope" -> "instance
> va
I never been through installing system change set before.
However what I did to load the cs, is to make String>>translated to
answer self, so I don't have the emergency debugger at least.
I will try to see step by step what is going wrong in the
String>>translated method.
Are there any other
Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
can it be package as a package?
I don't know because some classes are modified (splitted) and belong to
the System-Localisation category
Some methode like String>>translated is modified as well.
Hilaire
How should I proceed?
Do I update directly the related
# "helllooo" foo
prints
#foo
is this correct?
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On 4/29/2010 6:22 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
and then I call it like this for example:
oop := self firstAccessibleObject.
[oop = nil] whileFalse: [
(self isIntegerObject: oop)
ifFalse: [
size := self internalByteSize: oop.
..]
try to identify the problem so that we fix it
Setf
On Apr 29, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
> Hilaire Fernandes a écrit :
>> How should I proceed?
>> Do I update directly the related package in PharoInbox?
>>
>
> In latest 1.1, I started to file in NaturalLanguageTranslator.st as
can it be package as a package?
> How should I proceed?
>
> Do I update directly the related package in PharoInbox?
>
> I have this 7 changesets, some are newly created classes, other modified
> class or modified method
>
> support/GetTextTranslator.st
> support/InternalTranslator.st
> suppor
Hilaire Fernandes a écrit :
How should I proceed?
Do I update directly the related package in PharoInbox?
In latest 1.1, I started to file in NaturalLanguageTranslator.st as it
looks like a root class. The image frooze.
I guess it is related to Smalltalk registry or so...
How should I pr
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
> You mean "it should not be modified".
Yes, sorry. I meant should NOT.
> I know, but one should
> also not delete *.mcz's from a repository ;)
>
>
I know. But that's now your fault, neither mine.
I was just pragmatic due to lack of
excellent!
On Apr 29, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Alain Plantec wrote:
> Henrik Johansen a écrit :
>> It needs a way to register new valid preference pragmas, and setting
>> generators for such pragmas.
>> May I suggest... using pragmas? ;P
>>
> :)
> I've checked and only two methods has to be adapted a
How should I proceed?
Do I update directly the related package in PharoInbox?
I have this 7 changesets, some are newly created classes, other modified
class or modified method
support/GetTextTranslator.st
support/InternalTranslator.st
support/MOFile.st
support/NaturalLanguageTranslator.st
sup
Core packages were broken, and were unable to load w/o errors.
But now seems everything loads well.
Use NBInstaller install.
Thanks to Henrik for help!
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Ok, the problem was that I was doing:
usedMemory := usedMemory + self internalByteSize: oop.
that didn't work and always answered me the same number.
Now, I had to do this:
usedMemory := usedMemory + (self internalByteSize: oop).
I don't understand why.
Thanks
Mariano
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 a
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Davide Varvello wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Is there a way on Pharo to search for readers and writers of instance
> variables?
>
Yes. Select a class, right button -> "refactoring scope" -> "instance
variable reader" or "instance variable writer"
Did it work ?
cheers
mar
I will probably come as well.
Cheers,
Doru
On 28 Apr 2010, at 20:15, laurent laffont wrote:
I will be there too.
Laurent Laffont
On Wednesday, April 28, 2010, Mariano Martinez Peck
wrote:
Cool! I want to go. I want to visit Switzerland since a lot of
time :) I want to go to the alps als
Henrik Johansen a écrit :
It needs a way to register new valid preference pragmas, and setting generators
for such pragmas.
May I suggest... using pragmas? ;P
:)
I've checked and only two methods has to be adapted and one added in Pharo.
Then a compatibility package can be implemented for Sq
ok :)
On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> My email was a bit obscur. I was talking for the participation to the Sprint.
> Not for the license agreement.
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
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Ok, will do!
On Apr 28, 2010, at 8:54 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> and a test would help too :)
>
> On Apr 28, 2010, at 7:57 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>
>> Hola Fernando.
>>
>> If you want something to be integrated, you should follow the rules. As an
>> start, open a bug ticket, set
Hilaire Fernandes a écrit :
Henrik Johansen a écrit :
On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:49 53PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Are there any work in progress of i18n?
I need it for DrGeo or I will have to write message in French in the
code.
Hilaire
Not sure what you mean with work in progress, but an exis
Hi,
Is there a way on Pharo to search for readers and writers of instance
variables?
TIA
Davide
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On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:49 53PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Are there any work in progress of i18n?
I need it for DrGeo or I will have to write message in French in the code.
Hilaire
Not sure what you mean with work in progress, but an existing alternative is the
Strin
My email was a bit obscur. I was talking for the participation to the
Sprint. Not for the license agreement.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 29 Apr 2010, at 09:46, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
no let me do it so that we are sure that the list is in sync.
In the future I will generate it from the svn folder
no let me do it so that we are sure that the list is in sync.
In the future I will generate it from the svn folder.
On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> Hi German,
>
> Please, add your name in the wiki page (or let me know if you can't)
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>
>
> On 29
Hi German,
Please, add your name in the wiki page (or let me know if you can't)
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 29 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Germán Arduino wrote:
ok, thanks!
2010/4/28 Stéphane Ducasse :
each time I receive a license
I scanned it
archive it
have a look at the stamp :)
ok, thanks!
2010/4/28 Stéphane Ducasse :
> each time I receive a license
> I scanned it
> archive it
> have a look at the stamp :)
> and update the web page systematically
> so you can always know :)
>
> But German you can participate no need to wait that the license ph
> It's close but not entirely correct. The computation needs to include the
> extra header word for "large" instances (> 255 bytes). Squeak has three
> possible header sizes:
>
>1 header word - used by compact classes
>2 header words - used by regular classes
>3 header word
Hi Hannes,
We are currently working on making Pharo 1.1 from PharoCore 1.1. We're
almost there...
Alexandre
On 29 Apr 2010, at 08:12, Hannes Hirzel wrote:
I found it
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26897/PharoCore-1.1-11326-UNSTABLE.zip
It is called 'PreFreeze' which is fine.
Yes sounds good.
Prove that 3 methods are enough because we are cool :)
>> It's not a question of one vs. the other, really.
>> The cs doesn't change the Settings implementation, it simply adds support
>> for also discovering settings defined in the pragma style used by Squeak.
>> The downside i
Ok I see and I like your analysis.
This is much more positive energy :)
so what we could do is to integrate the code of andreas but write in big that
we should not use it internally.
Tell me if I interpreted well your message :)
Stef
>
>
>> Well
>> well well
>>
Good but what is your point
Eh? people getting paranoïac ;-)
Seriously, it is nice to have an additional place talking about
Smalltalk, it is helpful for the buzz. We should have thousand
Hilaire
Geert Claes a écrit :
csrabak wrote:
He means "Asking you an off topic question: why my name appears with a
suffix '-4' i
I found it
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26897/PharoCore-1.1-11326-UNSTABLE.zip
It is called 'PreFreeze' which is fine.
--Hannes
On 4/29/10, Hannes Hirzel wrote:
> Hello
>
> I'd like to download the latest 1.1 image.
>
> http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download
>
> is focused on
On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:05 34PM, Hannes Hirzel wrote:
> Hello
>
> I'd like to download the latest 1.1 image.
>
>http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download
>
> is focused on 1.0.
>
> I clicked on the link
> 'PharoCore images and other files'
> at the bottom and I get a list of files, but no 1
Hello
I'd like to download the latest 1.1 image.
http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download
is focused on 1.0.
I clicked on the link
'PharoCore images and other files'
at the bottom and I get a list of files, but no 1.1?
Where is it?
--Hannes
_
On Apr 29, 2010, at 1:44 29PM, Alain Plantec wrote:
> Henrik Johansen a écrit :
>> On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:30 06AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>> It's not a question of one vs. the other, really.
>> The cs doesn't change the Settings implementation, it simply adds support
>> for also discovering
Henrik Johansen a écrit :
On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:30 06AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
It's not a question of one vs. the other, really.
The cs doesn't change the Settings implementation, it simply adds support for
also discovering settings defined in the pragma style used by Squeak.
The downside is
Hi Serge,
nice demo! Looking through the slides in "Build you own control
structure" you use #ifSeven: as example which is easy, but not a
"real world use case".
I typically use another example:
In a few languages you have a "REPEAT (block) UNTIL (cond)" control
structure (in Pascal for insta
On Apr 29, 2010, at 12:46 17PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> +1
>
> So now we will be the guys that do not want to be backward compatible
Can't really claim that when neither approach is used in any existing released
images ;)
Cheers,
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2010/4/28 Serge Stinckwich :
> Hi all,
> i will made a talk about Pharo tomorrow at Viện tin học pháp ngữ, ngõ
> 42 Tạ Quang Bửu, Hà nội, Việt Nam.
>
On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:30 06AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Well
> well well
>
>>> Good but what is your point?
>>
>> Compatibility and simplicity.
>
> do you want to tie us with strings on the temple of compatibility? We do not
> want that.
>
> We are sorry but we do not want to lose what we
+1
So now we will be the guys that do not want to be backward compatible, but this
is on the web page
of pharo so nothing really new to me :)
>>> Good but what is your point?
>>
>> Compatibility and simplicity.
> Come on Andreas, "simple" is not so much more precise than "cool"
>
> and I don'
Andreas Raab a écrit :
On 4/28/2010 11:32 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Good but what is your point?
Compatibility and simplicity.
Come on Andreas, "simple" is not so much more precise than "cool"
and I don't think that having:
--
Editor class>>blinkingCursor
^ BlinkingCursor
You mean "it should not be modified". I know, but one should
also not delete *.mcz's from a repository ;)
I was just pragmatic due to lack of time and it should
be no problem since it works for now.
Bye
T.
Original-Nachricht
> Torsten: I saw you changed version 1.0 of Configur
Well
well well
>> Good but what is your point?
>
> Compatibility and simplicity.
do you want to tie us with strings on the temple of compatibility? We do not
want that.
We are sorry but we do not want to lose what we designed as it is what we
need/want, just because squeak has a
worse solut
On 4/28/2010 11:32 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Good but what is your point?
Compatibility and simplicity.
That Setting is a cool framework. We knew it already :)
That's where you're confused. You keep talking about "cool" and I keep
talking about "simple". These two are not the same yet yo
Hello,
i just uploaded a new VM, i built tonight and new NativeBoost code.
VM is built from latest SVN + VMMaker + NativeBoostPlugin sources, and
now NativeBoost can use all latest additions to interpreterProxy
function table,
such as addGCRoot, stackPointer etc.
And there's already a code which
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