Re: [Pharo-project] gettext change set

2010-04-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks hilaire I will open a ticket. Stef On Apr 29, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > So far, > > In the archive the change set of classes (may be there are more) extracted > from Etoys for Gettext support. > > They should install fine in Pharo 1.1, however there are incompatibil

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Andreas Raab
On 4/29/2010 3:21 AM, Alain Plantec wrote: Andreas Raab a écrit : On 4/28/2010 11:32 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Good but what is your point? Compatibility and simplicity. Come on Andreas, "simple" is not so much more precise than "cool" That comment deserves a more detailed exploration th

Re: [Pharo-project] [NativeBoost] new win32 build available

2010-04-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 30 April 2010 02:16, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Interesting.  Scary but interesting.  At the risk of seeming obsessed with > numerical analysis, is there a way to use this for callbacks? > Not yet. But i plan to add the callbacks support. > Bill > > > __

Re: [Pharo-project] [NativeBoost] new win32 build available

2010-04-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 30 April 2010 01:54, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: >  On 29.04.2010 17:13, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >> Core packages were broken, and were unable to load w/o errors. >> But now seems everything loads well. >> Use NBInstaller install. >> >> Thanks to Henrik for help! > > Here's a small example, a

Re: [Pharo-project] Legitimate syntax for # ... foo

2010-04-29 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2010/4/29 Eliot Miranda : > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Nicolas Cellier > wrote: >> >> 2010/4/29 Eliot Miranda : >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Nicolas Cellier >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I don't think any other st dialect would accept that syntax but Squeak. >> > >> > Visu

Re: [Pharo-project] [NativeBoost] new win32 build available

2010-04-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Interesting. Scary but interesting. At the risk of seeming obsessed with numerical analysis, is there a way to use this for callbacks? Bill ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailm

Re: [Pharo-project] [NativeBoost] new win32 build available

2010-04-29 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 29.04.2010 17:13, Igor Stasenko wrote: Core packages were broken, and were unable to load w/o errors. But now seems everything loads well. Use NBInstaller install. Thanks to Henrik for help! Here's a small example, as well as profile: SmallInteger >> nbFib ^ NBNativeCodeGen methodAsse

Re: [Pharo-project] ICMP/ping

2010-04-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 29 April 2010 21:06, Damien Cassou wrote: > Dear list, > > is it possible to ping a host from pharo ? It seems that OSProcess > would do, but it is for a windows machine and I haven't found a > pre-compiled library. > hmm.. i don't sure if squeak VM socket plugin supports raw sockets which you

Re: [Pharo-project] [Metacello] Problem with ConfigurationOfGofer in Pharo1.0 [WAS] Re: ConfigurationOfGofer class

2010-04-29 Thread Dale Henrichs
Mariano, Sorry for the delay in getting.wait, I've already told you:) You can safely unload and reload a configuration. Dale - "Mariano Martinez Peck" wrote: | Thanks for the investigation Dale...now...suppose I want to fix it and | I | want to force to load gofer again. How can I do

[Pharo-project] gettext package

2010-04-29 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
I have move in a Gettext package in PharoInbox classes for gettext support. Do not expect it to work. Some of the classes there, are just moved from former categories in pharo System-Localization and Multilingual other are coming from Etoys. I have not yet test to load it in a fresh image. Hi

Re: [Pharo-project] Legitimate syntax for # ... foo

2010-04-29 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Nicolas Cellier < nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2010/4/29 Eliot Miranda : > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Nicolas Cellier > > wrote: > >> > >> I don't think any other st dialect would accept that syntax but Squeak. > > > > VisualWorks

Re: [Pharo-project] Legitimate syntax for # ... foo

2010-04-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Eliot cleaning some left over or glitches is always good. I think that this is what nicolas wanted to say. like ###f -> #f we could use that for another syntactic extension. #12 -> 12 is not really nice. or #foo::bar: Stef > VisualWorks accepts it just fine. > > # "hello" foo => #foo > > # "he

Re: [Pharo-project] Legitimate syntax for # ... foo

2010-04-29 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2010/4/29 Eliot Miranda : > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Nicolas Cellier > wrote: >> >> I don't think any other st dialect would accept that syntax but Squeak. > > VisualWorks accepts it just fine. > # "hello" foo => #foo > # "hello" (foo # "hello" foo) => #(#foo #foo) > I think this is t

Re: [Pharo-project] Legitimate syntax for # ... foo

2010-04-29 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Nicolas Cellier < nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't think any other st dialect would accept that syntax but Squeak. > VisualWorks accepts it just fine. # "hello" foo => #foo # "hello" (foo # "hello" foo) => #(#foo #foo) I think this is the w

Re: [Pharo-project] Legitimate syntax for # ... foo

2010-04-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I would really like to get rid of that. It makes everything looking so brittle. Stef On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > I don't think any other st dialect would accept that syntax but Squeak. > It's just how the parser/scanner works now, but It wouldn't break much > code IMO i

Re: [Pharo-project] Legitimate syntax for # ... foo

2010-04-29 Thread Nicolas Cellier
I don't think any other st dialect would accept that syntax but Squeak. It's just how the parser/scanner works now, but It wouldn't break much code IMO if we stop supporting these weirdnesses. Nicolas 2010/4/29 Lukas Renggli : > Actually I didn't have all the latest code loaded in the open image.

Re: [Pharo-project] Legitimate syntax for # ... foo

2010-04-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
arghhh may be one day we should clean that too. > testSymbolLiteral > | tree | > #(('# foo' #foo) ('#"bar"foo' #foo) ('##foo' #foo) ('###foo' #foo) > ('#foo:' #foo:) ('#foo::' #'foo::') ('#foo::bar' #'foo::bar') > ('#foo::bar:' #'foo::bar:') ('#foo::bar::' #'foo::ba

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> > > is so much more "complicated" than > > --- > Editor class>>blinkingCursor > category: 'Morphic' > description: 'When true, the text cursor will blink.' > type: #Boolean> > ^ BlinkingCursor ifNil: [ true ] > --- > > Well the former is executable and

Re: [Pharo-project] Legitimate syntax for # ... foo

2010-04-29 Thread Lukas Renggli
Actually I didn't have all the latest code loaded in the open image. There is more, hold your breath: testSymbolNumbers #(('#1' 1) ('#12' 12) ('#12.3' 12.3) ('# 1' 1) ('##1' 1) ('#"bar"1' 1)) do: [ :pair | tree := RBParser parseExpression: pair first. self a

Re: [Pharo-project] Legitimate syntax for # ... foo

2010-04-29 Thread Lukas Renggli
> # "helllooo" foo > > prints > #foo > > is this correct? Probably not, but the standard compiler accepts it. So I had to patch the parser of the refactoring engine to accept a whole series of degraded constructs. Below a small collection of tests documenting some of these strange things: testSym

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: [Vm-dev] Fwd: is it possible to know the memory occupation (bytes) of an object?

2010-04-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Andreas Raab wrote: > On 4/29/2010 6:22 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> and then I call it like this for example: >> >> oop := self firstAccessibleObject. >> [oop = nil] whileFalse: [ >> (self isIntegerObject: oop) >> ifFalse: [ >>

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfPharo and OmniBrowser

2010-04-29 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Ok, I will check. Alexandre On 29 Apr 2010, at 14:08, Dale Henrichs wrote: Mariano and Alexandre, Sorry for the late reply ... I've been off-line with a cold for the last several days ... I have seen the behavior that you describe while working with GLASS 1.0-beta.8 and have fixed the

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfPharo and OmniBrowser

2010-04-29 Thread Dale Henrichs
Mariano and Alexandre, Sorry for the late reply ... I've been off-line with a cold for the last several days ... I have seen the behavior that you describe while working with GLASS 1.0-beta.8 and have fixed the problem in Metacello 1.0-beta.26.1 ... 1.0-beta.26.1 is still in development, but i

[Pharo-project] ICMP/ping

2010-04-29 Thread Damien Cassou
Dear list, is it possible to ping a host from pharo ? It seems that OSProcess would do, but it is for a windows machine and I haven't found a pre-compiled library. Thank you -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes the

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Henrik Johansen
Thanks! I'll make sure to look at it when I get home. Cheers, Henry Den 29. apr. 2010 kl. 19.26 skrev Alain Plantec : http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2370 Alain Plantec a écrit : Alain Plantec a écrit : Henrik Johansen a écrit : It needs a way to register new valid preferenc

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registrieså

2010-04-29 Thread Henrik Johansen
+1. This is close to what I intended to write after "on the positive", but forgot :) (probably better than I would have, though) Cheers, Henry Den 29. apr. 2010 kl. 19.40 skrev Eliot Miranda : and I don't think that having: -- Editor class>>blinkingCursor ^ BlinkingCurso

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello project dependencies

2010-04-29 Thread Dale Henrichs
Torsten, Sorry for the late reply ... caught a nasty cold and used the opportunity to stop reading email for a couple of days ... It looks like the original problem was that ArchiveViewer was included in the group names but was no longer defined in 1.1-baseline. When using a configuration dire

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Eliot Miranda
I have to say that devolving any technical discussion into "you think this..." and "we think that..." is a very quick way to destroy any ability to think critically in a technical discussion. This isn't Andreas "liking" anything, this is the result of having thought critically and objectively abou

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Henrik Johansen < henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no> wrote: > On Apr 29, 2010, at 1:44 29PM, Alain Plantec wrote: > > > Henrik Johansen a écrit : > >> On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:30 06AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> > >> It's not a question of one vs. the other, really. > >

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Alain Plantec
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2370 Alain Plantec a écrit : Alain Plantec a écrit : Henrik Johansen a écrit : It needs a way to register new valid preference pragmas, and setting generators for such pragmas. May I suggest... using pragmas? ;P :) I've checked and only two

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Alain Plantec
Alain Plantec a écrit : Henrik Johansen a écrit : It needs a way to register new valid preference pragmas, and setting generators for such pragmas. May I suggest... using pragmas? ;P :) I've checked and only two methods has to be adapted and one added in Pharo. Then a compatibility packag

Re: [Pharo-project] Instance variable readers/writers

2010-04-29 Thread Davide Varvello
Yes, thanks. Davide Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Davide Varvello > wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> Is there a way on Pharo to search for readers and writers of instance >> variables? >> > > Yes. Select a class, right button -> "refactoring scope" -> "instance > va

Re: [Pharo-project] status of i18n for Pharo

2010-04-29 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
I never been through installing system change set before. However what I did to load the cs, is to make String>>translated to answer self, so I don't have the emergency debugger at least. I will try to see step by step what is going wrong in the String>>translated method. Are there any other

Re: [Pharo-project] status of i18n for Pharo

2010-04-29 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : can it be package as a package? I don't know because some classes are modified (splitted) and belong to the System-Localisation category Some methode like String>>translated is modified as well. Hilaire How should I proceed? Do I update directly the related

[Pharo-project] Legitimate syntax for # ... foo

2010-04-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
# "helllooo" foo prints #foo is this correct? -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: [Vm-dev] Fwd: is it possible to know the memory occupation (bytes) of an object?

2010-04-29 Thread Andreas Raab
On 4/29/2010 6:22 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: and then I call it like this for example: oop := self firstAccessibleObject. [oop = nil] whileFalse: [ (self isIntegerObject: oop) ifFalse: [ size := self internalByteSize: oop. ..]

Re: [Pharo-project] status of i18n for Pharo

2010-04-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
try to identify the problem so that we fix it Setf On Apr 29, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Hilaire Fernandes a écrit : >> How should I proceed? >> Do I update directly the related package in PharoInbox? >> > > In latest 1.1, I started to file in NaturalLanguageTranslator.st as

Re: [Pharo-project] status of i18n for Pharo

2010-04-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
can it be package as a package? > How should I proceed? > > Do I update directly the related package in PharoInbox? > > I have this 7 changesets, some are newly created classes, other modified > class or modified method > > support/GetTextTranslator.st > support/InternalTranslator.st > suppor

Re: [Pharo-project] status of i18n for Pharo

2010-04-29 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Hilaire Fernandes a écrit : How should I proceed? Do I update directly the related package in PharoInbox? In latest 1.1, I started to file in NaturalLanguageTranslator.st as it looks like a root class. The image frooze. I guess it is related to Smalltalk registry or so... How should I pr

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfPharo

2010-04-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > You mean "it should not be modified". Yes, sorry. I meant should NOT. > I know, but one should > also not delete *.mcz's from a repository ;) > > I know. But that's now your fault, neither mine. I was just pragmatic due to lack of

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
excellent! On Apr 29, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: > Henrik Johansen a écrit : >> It needs a way to register new valid preference pragmas, and setting >> generators for such pragmas. >> May I suggest... using pragmas? ;P >> > :) > I've checked and only two methods has to be adapted a

Re: [Pharo-project] status of i18n for Pharo

2010-04-29 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
How should I proceed? Do I update directly the related package in PharoInbox? I have this 7 changesets, some are newly created classes, other modified class or modified method support/GetTextTranslator.st support/InternalTranslator.st support/MOFile.st support/NaturalLanguageTranslator.st sup

Re: [Pharo-project] [NativeBoost] new win32 build available

2010-04-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
Core packages were broken, and were unable to load w/o errors. But now seems everything loads well. Use NBInstaller install. Thanks to Henrik for help! -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: [Vm-dev] Fwd: is it possible to know the memory occupation (bytes) of an object?

2010-04-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Ok, the problem was that I was doing: usedMemory := usedMemory + self internalByteSize: oop. that didn't work and always answered me the same number. Now, I had to do this: usedMemory := usedMemory + (self internalByteSize: oop). I don't understand why. Thanks Mariano On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 a

Re: [Pharo-project] Instance variable readers/writers

2010-04-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Davide Varvello wrote: > > Hi, > Is there a way on Pharo to search for readers and writers of instance > variables? > Yes. Select a class, right button -> "refactoring scope" -> "instance variable reader" or "instance variable writer" Did it work ? cheers mar

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo sprint in Bern on June 5, 2010

2010-04-29 Thread Tudor Girba
I will probably come as well. Cheers, Doru On 28 Apr 2010, at 20:15, laurent laffont wrote: I will be there too. Laurent Laffont On Wednesday, April 28, 2010, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Cool! I want to go. I want to visit Switzerland since a lot of time :) I want to go to the alps als

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Alain Plantec
Henrik Johansen a écrit : It needs a way to register new valid preference pragmas, and setting generators for such pragmas. May I suggest... using pragmas? ;P :) I've checked and only two methods has to be adapted and one added in Pharo. Then a compatibility package can be implemented for Sq

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Sprint in Argentina

2010-04-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
ok :) On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > My email was a bit obscur. I was talking for the participation to the Sprint. > Not for the license agreement. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists

Re: [Pharo-project] Class>>rename:

2010-04-29 Thread Fernando olivero
Ok, will do! On Apr 28, 2010, at 8:54 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > and a test would help too :) > > On Apr 28, 2010, at 7:57 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> Hola Fernando. >> >> If you want something to be integrated, you should follow the rules. As an >> start, open a bug ticket, set

Re: [Pharo-project] status of i18n for Pharo

2010-04-29 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Hilaire Fernandes a écrit : Henrik Johansen a écrit : On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:49 53PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Are there any work in progress of i18n? I need it for DrGeo or I will have to write message in French in the code. Hilaire Not sure what you mean with work in progress, but an exis

[Pharo-project] Instance variable readers/writers

2010-04-29 Thread Davide Varvello
Hi, Is there a way on Pharo to search for readers and writers of instance variables? TIA Davide -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Instance-variable-readers-writers-tp2075506p2075506.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: [Pharo-project] status of i18n for Pharo

2010-04-29 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Henrik Johansen a écrit : On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:49 53PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Are there any work in progress of i18n? I need it for DrGeo or I will have to write message in French in the code. Hilaire Not sure what you mean with work in progress, but an existing alternative is the Strin

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Sprint in Argentina

2010-04-29 Thread Alexandre Bergel
My email was a bit obscur. I was talking for the participation to the Sprint. Not for the license agreement. Cheers, Alexandre On 29 Apr 2010, at 09:46, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: no let me do it so that we are sure that the list is in sync. In the future I will generate it from the svn folder

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Sprint in Argentina

2010-04-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
no let me do it so that we are sure that the list is in sync. In the future I will generate it from the svn folder. On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi German, > > Please, add your name in the wiki page (or let me know if you can't) > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > On 29

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Sprint in Argentina

2010-04-29 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi German, Please, add your name in the wiki page (or let me know if you can't) Cheers, Alexandre On 29 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Germán Arduino wrote: ok, thanks! 2010/4/28 Stéphane Ducasse : each time I receive a license I scanned it archive it have a look at the stamp :)

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Sprint in Argentina

2010-04-29 Thread Germán Arduino
ok, thanks! 2010/4/28 Stéphane Ducasse : > each time I receive a license >        I scanned it >        archive it >        have a look at the stamp :) >        and update the web page systematically > so you can always know :) > > But German you can participate no need to wait that the license ph

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: [Vm-dev] Fwd: is it possible to know the memory occupation (bytes) of an object?

2010-04-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
> It's close but not entirely correct. The computation needs to include the > extra header word for "large" instances (> 255 bytes). Squeak has three > possible header sizes: > >1 header word - used by compact classes >2 header words - used by regular classes >3 header word

Re: [Pharo-project] Where do I get the latest 1.1 image?

2010-04-29 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi Hannes, We are currently working on making Pharo 1.1 from PharoCore 1.1. We're almost there... Alexandre On 29 Apr 2010, at 08:12, Hannes Hirzel wrote: I found it https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26897/PharoCore-1.1-11326-UNSTABLE.zip It is called 'PreFreeze' which is fine.

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Yes sounds good. Prove that 3 methods are enough because we are cool :) >> It's not a question of one vs. the other, really. >> The cs doesn't change the Settings implementation, it simply adds support >> for also discovering settings defined in the pragma style used by Squeak. >> The downside i

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok I see and I like your analysis. This is much more positive energy :) so what we could do is to integrate the code of andreas but write in big that we should not use it internally. Tell me if I interpreted well your message :) Stef > > >> Well >> well well >> Good but what is your point

Re: [Pharo-project] "The World of Smalltalk" launch

2010-04-29 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Eh? people getting paranoïac ;-) Seriously, it is nice to have an additional place talking about Smalltalk, it is helpful for the buzz. We should have thousand Hilaire Geert Claes a écrit : csrabak wrote: He means "Asking you an off topic question: why my name appears with a suffix '-4' i

Re: [Pharo-project] Where do I get the latest 1.1 image?

2010-04-29 Thread Hannes Hirzel
I found it https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26897/PharoCore-1.1-11326-UNSTABLE.zip It is called 'PreFreeze' which is fine. --Hannes On 4/29/10, Hannes Hirzel wrote: > Hello > > I'd like to download the latest 1.1 image. > > http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download > > is focused on

Re: [Pharo-project] Where do I get the latest 1.1 image?

2010-04-29 Thread Henrik Johansen
On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:05 34PM, Hannes Hirzel wrote: > Hello > > I'd like to download the latest 1.1 image. > >http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download > > is focused on 1.0. > > I clicked on the link > 'PharoCore images and other files' > at the bottom and I get a list of files, but no 1

[Pharo-project] Where do I get the latest 1.1 image?

2010-04-29 Thread Hannes Hirzel
Hello I'd like to download the latest 1.1 image. http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download is focused on 1.0. I clicked on the link 'PharoCore images and other files' at the bottom and I get a list of files, but no 1.1? Where is it? --Hannes _

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Henrik Johansen
On Apr 29, 2010, at 1:44 29PM, Alain Plantec wrote: > Henrik Johansen a écrit : >> On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:30 06AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >> It's not a question of one vs. the other, really. >> The cs doesn't change the Settings implementation, it simply adds support >> for also discovering

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Alain Plantec
Henrik Johansen a écrit : On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:30 06AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: It's not a question of one vs. the other, really. The cs doesn't change the Settings implementation, it simply adds support for also discovering settings defined in the pragma style used by Squeak. The downside is

[Pharo-project] Xemina Pharo, Hà nội, Vi ệt Nam

2010-04-29 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Serge, nice demo! Looking through the slides in "Build you own control structure" you use #ifSeven: as example which is easy, but not a "real world use case". I typically use another example: In a few languages you have a "REPEAT (block) UNTIL (cond)" control structure (in Pascal for insta

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Henrik Johansen
On Apr 29, 2010, at 12:46 17PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > +1 > > So now we will be the guys that do not want to be backward compatible Can't really claim that when neither approach is used in any existing released images ;) Cheers, Henry ___ Pharo-

Re: [Pharo-project] Xemina Pharo, Hà nội, Vi ệt Nam

2010-04-29 Thread Serge Stinckwich
The slides of my presentation are now freely available here: http://www.slideshare.net/SergeStinckwich/pharo-an-innovative-and-opensource-smalltalk 2010/4/28 Serge Stinckwich : > Hi all, > i will made a talk about Pharo tomorrow at Viện tin học pháp ngữ, ngõ > 42 Tạ Quang Bửu, Hà nội, Việt Nam. >

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Henrik Johansen
On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:30 06AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Well > well well > >>> Good but what is your point? >> >> Compatibility and simplicity. > > do you want to tie us with strings on the temple of compatibility? We do not > want that. > > We are sorry but we do not want to lose what we

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
+1 So now we will be the guys that do not want to be backward compatible, but this is on the web page of pharo so nothing really new to me :) >>> Good but what is your point? >> >> Compatibility and simplicity. > Come on Andreas, "simple" is not so much more precise than "cool" > > and I don'

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Alain Plantec
Andreas Raab a écrit : On 4/28/2010 11:32 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Good but what is your point? Compatibility and simplicity. Come on Andreas, "simple" is not so much more precise than "cool" and I don't think that having: -- Editor class>>blinkingCursor ^ BlinkingCursor

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfPharo

2010-04-29 Thread Torsten Bergmann
You mean "it should not be modified". I know, but one should also not delete *.mcz's from a repository ;) I was just pragmatic due to lack of time and it should be no problem since it works for now. Bye T. Original-Nachricht > Torsten: I saw you changed version 1.0 of Configur

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Well well well >> Good but what is your point? > > Compatibility and simplicity. do you want to tie us with strings on the temple of compatibility? We do not want that. We are sorry but we do not want to lose what we designed as it is what we need/want, just because squeak has a worse solut

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Menu Registries

2010-04-29 Thread Andreas Raab
On 4/28/2010 11:32 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Good but what is your point? Compatibility and simplicity. That Setting is a cool framework. We knew it already :) That's where you're confused. You keep talking about "cool" and I keep talking about "simple". These two are not the same yet yo

[Pharo-project] [NativeBoost] new win32 build available

2010-04-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
Hello, i just uploaded a new VM, i built tonight and new NativeBoost code. VM is built from latest SVN + VMMaker + NativeBoostPlugin sources, and now NativeBoost can use all latest additions to interpreterProxy function table, such as addGCRoot, stackPointer etc. And there's already a code which