Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Hudson] 'Pharo' activated

2010-09-14 Thread Marcus Denker
On Sep 15, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Which targets do you plan to offer? > core 1.1.X full 1.1.X one-click 1.1 core 1.2 later: ful 1.2 one-click 1.2 even later: vm for mac, win, linux auto-build Projects: - Opal - Ocean . more as needed -- Marcus Denker -- http://www

Re: [Pharo-project] Compiling the VM for MacOSX

2010-09-14 Thread laurent laffont
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > which is a bit sad. Because we cannot run an hudson srever to > automatically build vms. > > I do not really understand why this would not be possible. > > > Indeed, it would be nice to have that > A screencast would be cool too :) L

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Hudson] 'Pharo' activated

2010-09-14 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Which targets do you plan to offer? From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Marcus Denker [marcus.den...@inria.fr] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:39 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gfo

Re: [Pharo-project] Glass

2010-09-14 Thread Ramon Leon
On 9/14/2010 2:26 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: "Dennis" == Dennis Schetinin writes: Dennis> http://seaside.gemstone.com/docs/GLASS-Announcement.htm Wow. So essentially, they've upped the free version from 4GB disk to 16GB disk and from 1 processor to 2. Nice. And even cooler, 1gig shared

Re: [Pharo-project] Glass

2010-09-14 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Dennis" == Dennis Schetinin writes: Dennis> http://seaside.gemstone.com/docs/GLASS-Announcement.htm Wow. So essentially, they've upped the free version from 4GB disk to 16GB disk and from 1 processor to 2. Nice. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Hudson] 'Pharo' activated

2010-09-14 Thread haofei
Congrats from Shanghai On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Noury Bouraqadi wrote: > yeah! > On 14 sept. 2010, at 18:39, Marcus Denker wrote: > > > We have a dedicated hudson server for Pharo! > > (hosted and managed by the central INRIA Hudson Service) > > > > It has not yet any build targets define

Re: [Pharo-project] Glass

2010-09-14 Thread Dennis Schetinin
http://seaside.gemstone.com/docs/GLASS-Announcement.htm 2010/9/14 Torsten Bergmann > Heard rumors about a (free) Glass announcement from ESUG. > Any details or pointers to a website? > > Thx > T. > -- > Neu: GMX De-Mail - Einfach wie E-Mail, sicher wie ein Brief! > Jetzt De-Mail-Adresse reservie

[Pharo-project] Glass

2010-09-14 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Heard rumors about a (free) Glass announcement from ESUG. Any details or pointers to a website? Thx T. -- Neu: GMX De-Mail - Einfach wie E-Mail, sicher wie ein Brief! Jetzt De-Mail-Adresse reservieren: http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/demail ___ Pharo-pro

Re: [Pharo-project] One order of magnitude faster sets/dicts?!

2010-09-14 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Toon Verwaest wrote: Hi, I'm a bit skeptic, because 10x improvement is pretty hard to get if the benchmark is not flawed and the code doesn't use VM support. Okay, I found the benchmark code, and it's flawed. The distribution of the keys is not uniform. Actually it's far f

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Hudson] 'Pharo' activated

2010-09-14 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
yeah! On 14 sept. 2010, at 18:39, Marcus Denker wrote: > We have a dedicated hudson server for Pharo! > (hosted and managed by the central INRIA Hudson Service) > > It has not yet any build targets defined, but that will change soon. > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Hudson >> Date: Sept

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Hudson] 'Pharo' activated

2010-09-14 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
excellent! On Sep 14, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > We have a dedicated hudson server for Pharo! > (hosted and managed by the central INRIA Hudson Service) > > It has not yet any build targets defined, but that will change soon. > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Hudson >> Dat

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [Hudson] 'Pharo' activated

2010-09-14 Thread Marcus Denker
We have a dedicated hudson server for Pharo! (hosted and managed by the central INRIA Hudson Service) It has not yet any build targets defined, but that will change soon. Begin forwarded message: > From: Hudson > Date: September 14, 2010 2:49:48 PM GMT+02:00 > To: marcus.den...@inria.fr > Subje

Re: [Pharo-project] Extension Methods

2010-09-14 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
MC certainly abuses method categories, but it wouild not be as bad if methods could appear in multiple categories; that is a Dolphinism that you won't miss until after you have had it. I would be opposed to hiding the method categories IF they are still used in the PackageInfo sense. If they c

Re: [Pharo-project] Some thoughts...

2010-09-14 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks alex :) We will Stef > Hi, > > I really would like to see projects like Opal and Ocean happening. Even > though I may not have the time to directly contribute to them, they are > important and I will use them. I am struggling these days to instrument the > whole Pharo image and thi

Re: [Pharo-project] One order of magnitude faster sets/dicts?!

2010-09-14 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
tx levente Stef >>> This mail is quite long as I copied it from a conversation with Toon >>> Verwaest. Toon and Camillo re-implemented hashed collections for Pinocchio >>> (http://scg.unibe.ch/research/pinocchio). Their benchmarks have shown that >>> the new implementation is significantly fas

Re: [Pharo-project] Strange behavior with TestRunner

2010-09-14 Thread Guillermo Polito
Mmm, so we should change -the tests to decouple them a bit from the method dictionary, or -the Run coverage :). On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > You probably rely on what has to be found in a method dictionary. "Run > Coverage" replaces compiled methods by a plain ob

[Pharo-project] % of unused objects?

2010-09-14 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi Mariano, I also would like to know what is the % of unused objects in my applications. How can I do it? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. __

Re: [Pharo-project] Automatically (OB?) run class methods?

2010-09-14 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi Mariano, > > Before I propose the test integration in system browser a few years ago, > people used a lot comments like "self debug: #testFoo". > Adding the command cmd-T greatly reduced these kind of comment. > > Probably a kind of "s

Re: [Pharo-project] Strange behavior with TestRunner

2010-09-14 Thread Alexandre Bergel
You probably rely on what has to be found in a method dictionary. "Run Coverage" replaces compiled methods by a plain object, in which run:with:in: is executed [*]. If in your test you expect to find a compile method, then you may surprises. Cheers, Alexandre [*] http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/A

[Pharo-project] Strange behavior with TestRunner

2010-09-14 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
On the pharo 1.2-12141, I run the SocketStreamTest. All green. But, when I try the "Run Coverage" all turn red. Any hint? Noury @ ESUG 2010 - Barcelona :-) --- 18th International Smalltalk Joint Conference, September 13 -17 2010 Barcelona, Spain. http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Settings for Shout syntax highlighting

2010-09-14 Thread Simon Denier
Following some hints from Alain, a new version (it just removes a method extension) Settings-Shout-simon_denier.2 in PharoInbox On 13 sept. 2010, at 11:00, Simon Denier wrote: > Hi > > A new package Settings-Shout in the Pharo Inbox for issue 1611 > > SLICE-Issue-1611-ShoutSettings-simon_den

Re: [Pharo-project] DemoMode should not change Fonts only sizes?

2010-09-14 Thread Serge Stinckwich
2010/9/14 Mariano Martinez Peck : > Hi Alain, I was trying the DemoMode before my talk at ESUG and I thought > that it would be better if this guy only changes the size of the fonts. I am > not sure if changing the fonts is good. > > For example, right now it is using FreeType with DejaVu. Since Ph

[Pharo-project] Some thoughts...

2010-09-14 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi, I really would like to see projects like Opal and Ocean happening. Even though I may not have the time to directly contribute to them, they are important and I will use them. I am struggling these days to instrument the whole Pharo image and this is not easy. I am eagerly waiting for Opal.

[Pharo-project] Thanks Marcus for the presentation of Pharo

2010-09-14 Thread Alexandre Bergel
I like very much the way you described the role of Pharo for doing Research. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. ___ Pharo-

Re: [Pharo-project] One order of magnitude faster sets/dicts?!

2010-09-14 Thread Toon Verwaest
To be fair, the text below just shows that Dictionary / Set in Pharo degrade from O(1) to O(n) as it has to search through all the elements in the Set/Dictionary. It's not that those high factors are constants because of better implementation. Pinocchio dictionaries just stay O(1). The only way

Re: [Pharo-project] Automatically (OB?) run class methods?

2010-09-14 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi Mariano, Before I propose the test integration in system browser a few years ago, people used a lot comments like "self debug: #testFoo". Adding the command cmd-T greatly reduced these kind of comment. Probably a kind of "send" like method will help reduce these kind of comment. As Lukas

Re: [Pharo-project] Refactor class name should check also in comments?

2010-09-14 Thread Lukas Renggli
That will be extremely expensive (in terms of minutes) to load all class and method comments to check for string matches. We can do that if we can read the sources faster. Lukas 2010/9/14 Mariano Martinez Peck : > > Hi Lukas. Several times I refractor a class name and I forget to update a > lot o

Re: [Pharo-project] Automatically (OB?) run class methods?

2010-09-14 Thread Lukas Renggli
These comments are totally useless anyway, I never put them. You just select the complete method body, hit Ctrl+d and it does what you want. Lukas 2010/9/14 Mariano Martinez Peck : > HI guys. I tend to see these pattern everywhere: > > openLoadAndQueryWorkspace >     "self openLoadAndQueryWorkspa

[Pharo-project] Refactor class name should check also in comments?

2010-09-14 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi Lukas. Several times I refractor a class name and I forget to update a lot of references to it in comments, class comments, etc… Do you think we can adapt RB so that it also checks there? Thanks Mariano ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@l

[Pharo-project] Automatically (OB?) run class methods?

2010-09-14 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
HI guys. I tend to see these pattern everywhere: openLoadAndQueryWorkspace "self openLoadAndQueryWorkspace" (Workspace new acceptContents: ' …… Having to have that kind of thing from my point of view, reveals a weakness in our IDE. Furthermore, when we rename the method, the comment

[Pharo-project] DemoMode should not change Fonts only sizes?

2010-09-14 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi Alain, I was trying the DemoMode before my talk at ESUG and I thought that it would be better if this guy only changes the size of the fonts. I am not sure if changing the fonts is good. For example, right now it is using FreeType with DejaVu. Since Pharo1.1 dev doesn't use them, there is no fo

Re: [Pharo-project] One order of magnitude faster sets/dicts?!

2010-09-14 Thread Toon Verwaest
Hi, I'm a bit skeptic, because 10x improvement is pretty hard to get if the benchmark is not flawed and the code doesn't use VM support. Okay, I found the benchmark code, and it's flawed. The distribution of the keys is not uniform. Actually it's far from uniform, it's just 1..dictSize. Anyway

Re: [Pharo-project] help needed for xmlparser

2010-09-14 Thread Alexandre Bergel
I added you in the project. Cheers, Alexandre On 14 Sep 2010, at 10:06, Henrik Johansen wrote: > Unauthorized :/ > > Basically, the two last asserts should be removed, as in both Squeak and > Pharo, leadingChar for Unicode has been changed from 255 to 0. > Doesn't really make sense to test fo

Re: [Pharo-project] help needed for xmlparser

2010-09-14 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Henrik will get the beer. All tests of XML-Support are green again! ConfigurationOfXMLSupport has been updated accordingly. thanks Henrik! Alexandre On 14 Sep 2010, at 09:42, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > There has been a yellow test for some times already. > XMLParserTest>>#testDecodi

Re: [Pharo-project] help needed for xmlparser

2010-09-14 Thread Henrik Johansen
Unauthorized :/ Basically, the two last asserts should be removed, as in both Squeak and Pharo, leadingChar for Unicode has been changed from 255 to 0. Doesn't really make sense to test for leadingChar anyways, what you really care about is the charCode... Cheers, Henry On Sep 14, 2010, at 9:4

[Pharo-project] help needed for xmlparser

2010-09-14 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! There has been a yellow test for some times already. XMLParserTest>>#testDecodingCharacters I am not really sure how to fix it. It would be _really_ cool to have a character encoding guru to have a look at it... If you fixed it and happen to be at esug, I invite you for a beer :-) Cheers,